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Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
If it is true that there is going to be windows mobile 7 than will it be made for touch pro 2. If so how fast you think chefs will cook a rom for it. If any body knows plz rite back.
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Windows Mobile 7 is a figment of your imagination.
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actually i dnt think so because if you google it, it actually says that it will be released in late 2010.
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i think its real but not coming out for a year or two knowing windows to be the lasttt one the have the lasttt word....shame on their marketing dept
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Well this is what i googled and it sure looks real to me but i dont know if my eyes deceive me so if you want to look go right ahead.
http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:i...QR-UNPpaeC1zo=http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:y...sgT78zGGZGCt8=http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:i...z_KQ5Hm6OEjaI=http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:G...WKkRULntOa_z8= www.wired.com/.../12/windows-mobile-7-delayed-until-late-2010/ |
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It's fake. Everybody knows Microsoft took so long with Windows Mobile 7 that they're going straight to WM8
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I doubt the TP2 meets MS requirements for Winmo 7.
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Win 7 will be released eventually if MS expects to still compete with Android and iPhone...
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I could be wrong, but I doubt there will be an official release for the TP2. In all likelihood, the hardware on the TP2 wouldn't perform the way MS would want their new flagship OS to perform. They will likely want it on the higher end hardware (i.e. snapdragon).
Now it may come unofficially to the TP2, but that really depends on how loyal and talented the TP2 community is when WM7 is finally released. For example, WM6 was put on the Apache and WM6.1 on the Treo700wx even though the highest official OS for them was 5.0 because there was still interest in those phones. My prediction is that Android will pull out ahead due to it's open design. WM will eventually pull out of the game unless MS really changes their game plan. |
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Is this really being questioned? I thought it was pretty well known it will be out next year. MS better get it out with a descent marketplace. They have wasted so much time already. Don't understand why they took so long. Mobile gaming + achievement points tied to your 360 account (live anywhere) = $$$$ Not saying they will have it but seems like a common sense move to make.
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Awesome thread lol
but according to MS< itll be out later this year, the only phone currently available that will be able to officially upgrade is the HD2. WM7 requires a 1Ghz processor. ofc that wont stop chefs from getting it to our TP2s, but as I said, officially only the HD2 can handle it |
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I spoke with a vendor who said that we will probably be seeing WM7 builds in the next couple months.
I take any news about WM7 with the grain of salt... (did I say that right? lol) |
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microsoft is beginning to have a track record for releases within the past 3 years. Let's summarize for a moment
windows vista - laughed out of the face of existence due to the heavy use of resources, sluggish performance, and lack of legacy driver support. While it was made a flagship to many devices, it wasn't the best zune - It was an interesting device but by the time microsoft entered the foray of mp4 devices, apple already had touch screen and a very competitive advertising campaign. Low sales of the zune often saw it with low prices in compared to its apple counterpart. When the new zune mini was released as competition to the ipod nano, it was received with mixed reviews. Windows mobile 6/6.1/6.5 - need I say anything about this? to the business user as well as a few other users (ppcgeeks/xda) windows mobile was often ridiculed as slow and unappealing in the eyes of both the apple iphone/ipod touch and google android and yet...microsoft pressed on... windows 7 - Nothing but good praise from many users/blog writers, reviewers which define windows 7 to be what vista is truly capable of and arguing that it is more stable than the argued best OS for users windows xp. zune hd - while smaller than the ipod/iphone, the zune hd is quintessentially the best device for mp4 format. Amoled display, excruciatingly fast and innovative, the zune hd is everything that the zune wasn't. And again, many were impressed with the speed, function, and just beauty of the zune hd. windows mobile 7??? If anything microsoft is releasing is turning to gold, it has to be its mobile platform. I think microsoft is listening to its consumers a lot more and implementing things seen on other platforms (much akin to pinch gesture on apple) but innovating it (similar to htc by allowing the device to completely reflow text once the zoom is complete). I think in general, the small incremental changes will become a giant leap forward that will keep windows mobile afloat and I don't think many will be dismayed by windows mobile for a bit. One thing that is unique is evolution - I think the dominance once held by apple is crumbling and even apple is in trouble. If there wasn't any advertising from apple, I am definitely sure the apple wouldn't be selling in favor of the google android handsets. That being said, google seems to be in the forefront of at least taking a large hold of mobile market. But I think that many will go back to the lab after the release of windows mobile 7. Sadly our devices won't get it unless cmonex and nochem find a bs/p for 6.5 and then 7. If they find it for 6.5, you gotta think it won't be much longer for 7...at least so we hope. If anything, the few handsets with snapdragon processors (hd2, acer, toshiba) will have some alpha leaks in the coming future I'm sure...and microsoft AND htc will announce something this month at CES as per usual and many will gravitate to that like a fly on honey. I guess the point is to stay tuned... |
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It doesn't really matter when Microsoft releases it. An official RUU will never come out for our devices. Hell, WM6.5 came out months ago and most of us are still waiting for the official release. |
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tp2 is not getting winmo 7, the processor is too slow. heres what conflipper had to say,
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...postcount=8007 |
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I am definiely going to echo in on a comment regarding how not bad winmo really is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btIRYSd-wvw on an iphone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DICph...video_response one thing that really intrigued me is the power dx has over opengl...says a lot to me... |
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the TP2 will never see it, but at this point I'm not concerned about it. By the time WinMo7 comes out, I'll most likely be running an Android ROM on my TP2
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many people argue the hardware/software is dated, winmo based hardware will never run games like the iphone does... the two links kinda dismiss tha argument quite a bit...even on our non gpu accelerated devices, we are getting some really good games coming our way (most recent notables crayon physics and pangya golf) |
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I'm not sure what's the point of this thread anymore...probably gonna close it soon.
Re: is WM7 real? Of course it's real, I know people who have seen it (hello Mobius). Will it officially come to the TP2? Absolutely, definitely NO. HD2? Maybe. Could we force it on the TP2? Possibly, but it's gonna be pretty bad on it as we won't have the hardware API's to take advantage of the OS guts. Watch for announcements in the Spring and read specific WinMo dedicated sites, as they may cover the topic routinely, ahem. btw, my eXpo beats an iPhone pretty easily in most regards. Microsoft has all the right pieces, they just need to execute it well. |
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Not to be contrite, but snapdragon processors and capacitive screens aren't necessarily without their own drawbacks. Sure, you may get more graphics with a snapdragon processor, but if your phone is used primarily for work or just for communication, then that's a mighty large power-drain. And, equally, capacitive screens have their own limitations; i.e. no stylus. Fat-finger friendly-only may work for the luddites, but I know after 10 years of WinMo I still use my stylus 30-40% of the time. Sure, I think WinMo needs to start setting the bar with respect to h/w, but I don't think that should come at anyone's expense. The quickest way to kill WinMo, or any other, is to try and replicate someone else's success to the 'T'. As for this thread: FoF. |
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I've also read somewhere that Windows Mobile 7 requires a multi touch display. So that would vastly limit the possibilities to which our Touch Pro 2s can do with the operating system.
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not disagreeing at all with any of the stated here, but when you think about it, wm is still ahead of the hardware game with the exception of capacitive touch screen. When we first read the specs of windows phone 7 2 years ago we were scratching our heads a bit because we knew it would be powerful - even moreso than the most powerful phone at the time (which was the tilt perhaps). Its tough to argue if microsoft is spearheading this campaign for snapdragon and monumental ram, but it can be argued that microsoft is making oem developers very aware to keep a partnership in the future, the hardware has to be much different. That aside windows is evolving and I think will still blow us all away and I think again people will not be dismayed. But even now, touch pro 2 can go toe to toe with android and iphone and do fairly well. The problem in windows mobile is advertising and the nuts in the blogosphere *pointing at noah of phone dog for example* for continuously bashing windows mobile and calling anything else the shangrila. Opinions differ on devices granted, but comments such as windows sucks bla bla bla is dismissing what is being done in the industry by microsoft - which is a lot. Just sayin... |
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I'm not sure what the fuss is about with respect to the Snapdragon processors, anyways. Specs on paper and real-world performance are two different things... especially if you try and keep in mind the limitations put on the MSM7XXX series' graphics capabilities. Word is that the HD video decoding functionality of the Snapdragon processor in the HD2 was already crippled. Not a huge fan of Qualcomm anymore, but it seems HTC is still in bed with them. (Whether to be disappointed with HTC or Qualcomm is another issue, since it seems all of the hubris on the older MSM chipsets has to do with licensing fees HTC isn't paying Qualcomm).
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Windows Phone 7 will be the last mobil OS from Microsoft. I have a close friend who is on the development team in Redmond.
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And it IS a game changer for using internet-based applications (browsers, voip, email, etc.) as it can actually handle all the data 3G is pulling down for the first time. Sure Qualcomm is beyond shady, but as an end-user, Snapdragon is a breath of fresh air as it finally unleashes some of the power in WinMo. No 720P? I'm not crying over it at this point--that's a pretty niche area for mobile phones right now, something which I'm sure WM7 will address (like my ZuneHD with Tegra, also awesome). Quote:
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no offense to your "close friend in redmond," but they just rebranded windows mobile to windows phone. what part of attempting to breathe new life into their mobile platform says that they will only make 1 more mobile operating system. plus, the market for mobile OSes is so large that you can rest assured windows wants a piece of that pie.
and for those of you who are thinking you want windows phone 7 on your TP2, dont count on it. its just bad business sense. HTC refused to release windows phone 6.5 for the regular touch pro because they wanted you to buy a touch pro 2. the cell phone companies need their contract renewals. the cell phone manufacturers need their revenue from selling phones. they will never let you run the newest OS on a legacy device. thats just silly. in a few short years the lines between laptop and netbook and cell phone will blur and there will likely be one device to replace them all. so back to your "close friend in redmond." maybe they will only be making 1 last mobile operating system, and they will be moving to a better tablet OS, or something along those lines. huh. disproving myself once again. im soo good at that. :) |
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tablet services have been integrated in oses since windows vista...I doubt there will be a separate tablet os
out of the box windows supports most tablet pc drivers and even functioning much better than the OEM device driver itself! if anything the smart phone market may diverse itself a bit more especially with samsung's new os on the horizon... |
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Windows Mobile 7 will be out late this year. It will almost certainly not be be made available for the Touch Pro2 (in the US, we're having a hard enough time getting the promised 6.5 updates). One of the requirements for WinMo 7 is a capacitive touch screen, and as far as I know the only WinMo phone with a capacitive touch screen is the HD2.
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WinMo7 is real but it won't be out for TP2 like Mike said. It also has other hardware requirements such as specific processors, etc.
MSFT is moving towards controlling hardware more so they can deliver a better product. The reason why Apple products "just work" is because Apple controls both the software and the hardware of their products. This allows them to do a lot of testing and tailor their software to ensure it works with their hardware. The problem MSFT has had in the past is that their operating system (windows, windows mobile) are generic and have minimum system requirements. Because of this the operating system's performance is unpredictable to a certain degree. |
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