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Young_breedent 01-04-2010 05:19 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siff (Post 1457944)
Windows Phone 7 will be the last mobil OS from Microsoft. I have a close friend who is on the development team in Redmond.

i call bullshit on this, how would he know??? and even still they would of called it quits with 6.5. Why would they put all of there time, resources, and money into Windows Mobile 7 and call it quits???? Wouldn't they at least like to see if it's an success or not before they would make a decision like that. lol some of you are just funny. This is why you can't believe everything you read on the internet haha

p-slim 01-04-2010 05:21 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Young_breedent (Post 1460335)
i call bullshit on this, how would he know??? and even still they would of quit with 6.5. Why would they put all of there time, resources, and money into Windows Mobile 7 and call it quits???? Wouldn't they at least like to see if it is an success or not before they would make a decision like that. lol so of you are just funny. This is why you can't believe everything you read on the internet haha

I didn't even reply to that message. He doesn't know what hes talking about. So if windows quits selling phones, then what are they going to sell windows 7 and zunes only? Cmon man get real. Is windows developement team even in redwood city? How come US gets all phones last then?

slvrdrgn123 01-04-2010 05:30 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
wrong post. sorry. =[

Mr.KLeen 01-04-2010 05:52 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
so how long do you say till we start seein 7 on devices, mid 2011?

mikeszekely 01-05-2010 01:08 AM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1460334)
I don't think capacitive screen is a requirement. Processing speed and power is a requirement but the os can work on capacitive or resistive screen. the iphone could technically work on a resisitive screen but it would be highly unaccurate for certain features and programs.

http://www.intomobile.com/2009/05/12...ents-leak.html

Note that it says that multi-touch is a requirement. If I recall correctly, multi-touch only works on capacitive screens, making capacitive touch screens a requirement for Windows 7.

InsomniacJedi 01-05-2010 02:12 AM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...alen/ufail.jpg

pesok 01-05-2010 02:14 AM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
TOuch Pro 2 does not meet WM7 requirements but i am sure our cooks will be able figure out how to run it on TP2's and TPs anyways(android on TP's is a reality already)

proimageprints 01-05-2010 02:35 AM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
XDA member CookieMonster found this bit of code in the latest Sense 2.5 (1922):
if HomeMachineStatus.WM7Device.Value then
IsWindowsMobile7Device = true
PredefineItem = 1
HomeItemCollection = HomeManager:GetHomeCollection(1)
else
IsWindowsMobile7Device = false
PredefineItem = 0
HomeItemCollection = HomeManager:GetHomeCollection()
end
Considering we have a pretty good idea that the HD2 is getting WM7 and Sense 2.5 (1922) is designed for the T-Mobile HD2, well you can see how HTC is already playing with and planning to cover up WM7.
Of course we know MSFT has no issue with this and in fact encourages such practice, plus it's not like you can't turn off Sense to return to the WM UI. Still, it's an interesting tidbit for the future.

So, It looks like HTC is planning on WM7 actually being a reality...
But I am pretty sure we will NEVER see an Official release for the TP2 since it doesn't have capacitive touch, and that looks to be a requirement.

jshaas2 01-06-2010 01:19 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
just saw this - http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/l...ing-this-year/

CnDm111 01-06-2010 01:39 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
its fake its just a conspiracy

steveholtam 01-06-2010 02:29 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
CES is starting tommorrow and we should have a bunch of tibits over the next four days on Windows 7.

(Now back to the Unicorn hunt!)

lacklustre484 01-10-2010 11:52 AM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
I just got off the phone with a Tier 2 tech support for VZW. When I upgraded to the 6.5 ROM, my phone wiped out the Auth Key and I needed to manually enter a new one. Long story short, she said that a few months back Microsoft threw a Win Mo 6.5 kickoff event at VZW to get questions answered and such. She said that the MS rep told them there would be two new ROMs released in 2010 for VZW's HTC TP2 - WinMo 6.5 and WinMo 7. They are apparently training now for WinMo 7.

..for what its worth.

Noir 01-10-2010 12:04 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lacklustre484 (Post 1476125)
I just got off the phone with a Tier 2 tech support for VZW. When I upgraded to the 6.5 ROM, my phone wiped out the Auth Key and I needed to manually enter a new one. Long story short, she said that a few months back Microsoft threw a Win Mo 6.5 kickoff event at VZW to get questions answered and such. She said that the MS rep told them there would be two new ROMs released in 2010 for VZW's HTC TP2 - WinMo 6.5 and WinMo 7. They are apparently training now for WinMo 7.

..for what its worth.

will believe it when he sees it
I can see if vzw is starting training for preliminary builds for wm for new devices that verizon will have that is wm7 capable...but again vzw tp2 cannot run wm 7. If it does I swear I will eat a hat in hot sauce

now we may get a 6.5.3 rom and if we do I would love verizon forever and ever...I mean dear god I would love them...and rub it in the face of sprint XD

italianamericn 01-10-2010 12:08 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
With as long as it has taken 6.5 to come out i am not expecting anything like 7 to come out while i'm still physically capable of standing on my own two feet. :violent1:

p-slim 01-10-2010 12:16 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
this thread needs to be closed, its giving people false hope. Windows mobile 7 is real and will be released this year. Windows mobile 7 will not see the tp2, its that simple.

rorytmeadows 01-10-2010 12:21 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1476170)
this thread needs to be closed, its giving people false hope. Windows mobile 7 is real and will be released this year. Windows mobile 7 will not see the tp2, its that simple.

Don't jump too quickly at that original thought that WM7 would not come to the TP2. Windows 7 is sooooo backwards compatible that it almost makes me feel like they could do the same thing with Windows Mobile. METAPHOR: Just think, the Windows Mobile version of Aero might not be able to run on the TP2, but WM7 could still be installed on it!

Plus, there's no way they are waiting until the end of the year to release WM7. Six months ago when Microsoft realized how bad they were in the mobile department, pretty sure they beefed up the staffing 10 fold to catch up.

p-slim 01-10-2010 12:43 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rorytmeadows (Post 1476180)
Don't jump too quickly at that original thought that WM7 would not come to the TP2. Windows 7 is sooooo backwards compatible that it almost makes me feel like they could do the same thing with Windows Mobile. METAPHOR: Just think, the Windows Mobile version of Aero might not be able to run on the TP2, but WM7 could still be installed on it!

Plus, there's no way they are waiting until the end of the year to release WM7. Six months ago when Microsoft realized how bad they were in the mobile department, pretty sure they beefed up the staffing 10 fold to catch up.

i'm not saying its not possible, but if winmo 7 comes to the tp2, it will not work properly, therefore windows and htc will never bring it to tp2. sure some chef will probably rip it off and figure out a way to port it over like they are doing droid. But the lack of ram and processing power that the tp2 has, winmo 7 will not function properly on it. even with manilla 2.5 the tp2 is having ram issues (closing programs, opera 9.7 getting memory issues).

rorytmeadows 01-10-2010 07:52 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1476224)
i'm not saying its not possible, but if winmo 7 comes to the tp2, it will not work properly, therefore windows and htc will never bring it to tp2. sure some chef will probably rip it off and figure out a way to port it over like they are doing droid. But the lack of ram and processing power that the tp2 has, winmo 7 will not function properly on it. even with manilla 2.5 the tp2 is having ram issues (closing programs, opera 9.7 getting memory issues).

That doesn't necessarily mean it will not function properly!

I'm still sticking with that view that with poorer functioning computers, you can still install Windows 7 on it, you just won't get Aero and you'll get an annoyingly brightly colored taskbar that's impossible to read!

Mr.KLeen 01-10-2010 07:56 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
it would be too laggy. not worth it to me

p-slim 01-10-2010 07:58 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimecm (Post 1477153)
it would be too laggy. not worth it to me

You are correct. I don't think they are realizing they will not be getting nowhere near the experience they are suppose to have. It is definitely possible to make it work on the tp2, but the lag will be unbearable plus you will probably be only able to open up 1 program at a time because the ram is going to be used up.

mikee4fun 01-10-2010 08:17 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Conflipper already chimed in on this. Windows Mobile 7 will never come to the Touch Pro 2 ever! Our hardware will not support it. We cannot use the new CE6 base at all.


Cheers

Atomic2Mod 01-11-2010 09:41 AM

WM7 delayed until 2011
 
Delayed again:

http://www.cellular-news.com/story/41380.php

Maxx134 01-11-2010 11:48 AM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
With higher hardware demands, M$ should just scrap it and make a strip down mobile version of win95 or Xp :p

jessiethe3rd 01-11-2010 04:24 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
WM7 is real. And the TP2 will not support it. Move to HD2 if you are hoping (and leave CDMA while you are at it...) It'll 6-8 months before it hits but no question... it will hit and it will happen. Look to the upcoming Mobile conference for annoucements.

tt C6 01-11-2010 04:30 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jessiethe3rd (Post 1479331)
WM7 is real. And the TP2 will not support it.

How can you be so sure?
What about a official or cooked ROM?

p-slim 01-11-2010 04:43 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tt C6 (Post 1479342)
How can you be so sure?
What about a official or cooked ROM?

as i posted on the 2nd page tp2 will not get winmo 7. Somebody will probably cook it but it will be too laggy for everyday use. Conflipper posted the medium specs for winmo 7 which are below. tp2 will not ever have winmo 7 from windows unless somebody rips it but it will still be unuasable. original post here.


WM7 is based on CE OS 7, not CE OS 6,

any CDMA device that we have right now WILL NOT support WM7.

Needs to be Snapdragon chipset, or OMAP V3 or V4, no Qualcom chipset that is 7xxx series. they will not work with it at all.

Will they get hacked to work. NO

What will be needed? Bootloader, Kernal, XIP, everythingl. So that TP2 that you just bought last week. It will not run WM7 at all. and 6.5 End of Life is in February. So you have 5 months of upgrades on your new device.
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Young_breedent 01-11-2010 04:53 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1479390)
as i posted on the 2nd page tp2 will not get winmo 7. Somebody will probably cook it but it will be too laggy for everyday use. Conflipper posted the medium specs for winmo 7 which are below. tp2 will not ever have winmo 7 from windows unless somebody rips it but it will still be unuasable. original post here.


WM7 is based on CE OS 7, not CE OS 6,

any CDMA device that we have right now WILL NOT support WM7.

Needs to be Snapdragon chipset, or OMAP V3 or V4, no Qualcom chipset that is 7xxx series. they will not work with it at all.

Will they get hacked to work. NO

What will be needed? Bootloader, Kernal, XIP, everythingl. So that TP2 that you just bought last week. It will not run WM7 at all. and 6.5 End of Life is in February. So you have 5 months of upgrades on your new device.
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6.5 end of life is notin February lol, 6.5 will be for there lower end devices and windows mobile 7 will be for the higher end devices. But mostly everything else you said is correct.

p-slim 01-11-2010 06:17 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Young_breedent (Post 1479419)
6.5 end of life is notin February lol, 6.5 will be for there lower end devices and windows mobile 7 will be for the higher end devices. But mostly everything else you said is correct.

i think 6.5 is done, 6.5.1 was seen at CES and i think that will be on lower end devices.

Paragon 01-11-2010 07:03 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Microsoft has stated that once WM7 is released they will continue with updates down the 6.x path as well as the new WM7.x path.

There is a lot that can be read into this. If they are going to continue down both paths it would suggest that WM7 is not going to be very friendly when it comes to backwards compatibility. It doesn't sound good for upgrades either, especially since there has been a great deal of confusion as to whether or not the HD2 will even get an upgrade, and it is pretty commonly accepted that if any WM6.5 devices did get it, the HD2 would be the only one, and that is looking less and less likely all the time. Remeber, HTC Russia announce that the HD2 would get a WM7 upgrade, then very abruptly withdrew that statement. Add to this all the technical aspects, such as a new OS version at the core, and the published minimum hardware specs for WM7....there's not a hope in hell. Supertramp wrote a song about this years ago........

Dave

p-slim 01-11-2010 07:12 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paragon (Post 1479810)
Microsoft has stated that once WM7 is released they will continue with updates down the 6.x path as well as the new WM7.x path.

There is a lot that can be read into this. If they are going to continue down both paths it would suggest that WM7 is not going to be very friendly when it comes to backwards compatibility. It doesn't sound good for upgrades either, especially since there has been a great deal of confusion as to whether or not the HD2 will even get an upgrade, and it is pretty commonly accepted that if any WM6.5 devices did get it, the HD2 would be the only one, and that is looking less and less likely all the time. Remeber, HTC Russia announce that the HD2 would get a WM7 upgrade, then very abruptly withdrew that statement. Add to this all the technical aspects, such as a new OS version at the core, and the published minimum hardware specs for WM7....there's not a hope in hell. Supertramp wrote a song about this years ago........

Dave

when it comes to the winmo 7 update, hd2 will at least be able to make it work properly. As for windows giving it an official update, who knows. By the time winmo 7 comes people should buy new phones anyways. I can't believe people still make decisions when buying phones hoping they will get the next update on the current device.

Paragon 01-11-2010 07:18 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1479838)
I can't believe people still make decisions when buying phones hoping they will get the next update on the current device.

I absolutely agree with this. If you look at it just from a historical view point, upgrades have been very slim at best. If you want something new, then buy something new. Don't expect an upgrade.

Dave

Dragon2 01-11-2010 07:35 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
any cool vids out there showing wm7... been a while since i checked it out??

imtjnotu 01-11-2010 07:46 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
WM7 on TP2 is like Running Windows vista on an ipod

imtjnotu 01-11-2010 07:48 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon2 (Post 1479905)
any cool vids out there showing wm7... been a while since i checked it out??

none...:violent1:

Dragon2 01-11-2010 07:50 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
darn, So there just holding out huh, untill the release...... Bastards hahaha

So some saying late february itll be done maybe? If thats the case, Maybe the the HTC HD2 will ship will wm7......

PropagandaX 01-11-2010 08:19 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Considering we havent seen any leaked betas I got to believe either WM7 is way out there or WM7 is really the WM6.5.X. I mean we usually get leaked beta months before, hell look at 6.5, its barelly out there been now and Ive been using it for almost a year now (I think). So now WM7 is going to be this top secret unvailing that only work on HD2 that has the fastest processor availible, I just dont think thats going to happen but who knows. I mean geez andriod doesnt only run on HD2, they would be foolish to design an operating system for hardware that is only availible on a few devices. My vote is 6.5.X is really WM7, and really imo they now need to overhall the today screen (im sorry titaniam is really gay, its just a modified wm smartphone app). Make the damn thing work just like the WM7 deskop and allow shortcuts and widgets, etc on the desktop. Anyways that my 2 cents for what its worth.

laymanspc 01-11-2010 08:22 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpdjr (Post 1455153)

Anyone even click the images the threadstarter linked. It is a Windows7 THEME for WinMo 5 and 6


Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1476170)
this thread needs to be closed, its giving people false hope. Windows mobile 7 is real and will be released this year. Windows mobile 7 will not see the tp2, its that simple.

8 pages of false hopes and arguing by folk that didn't even look at the links of the threadstarter. The Windows 7 Theme posted by the OP should work for all TP2 users. LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by InsomniacJedi (Post 1461666)


That is funny.

Mr.KLeen 01-11-2010 08:42 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
microsoft promo vid wm7 ui. but this is about a year old so it could be different from this. i think this one is it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r9aX76VQxE

CnDm111 01-11-2010 08:56 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
the theme is over a year old.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=26997

PropagandaX 01-11-2010 09:02 PM

Re: Could Windows mobile 7 be for real
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PropagandaX (Post 1480027)
Considering we havent seen any leaked betas I got to believe either WM7 is way out there or WM7 is really the WM6.5.X. I mean we usually get leaked beta months before, hell look at 6.5, its barelly out there been now and Ive been using it for almost a year now (I think). So now WM7 is going to be this top secret unvailing that only work on HD2 that has the fastest processor availible, I just dont think thats going to happen but who knows. I mean geez andriod doesnt only run on HD2, they would be foolish to design an operating system for hardware that is only availible on a few devices. My vote is 6.5.X is really WM7, and really imo they now need to overhall the today screen (im sorry titaniam is really gay, its just a modified wm smartphone app). Make the damn thing work just like the WM7 deskop and allow shortcuts and widgets, etc on the desktop. Anyways that my 2 cents for what its worth.

So what do you guys think WM 6.5.X is about?


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