Who plans to go HD2?
 

It seems almost assured that T-Mo in the US is going to get the HD2. Any TP2 owners planning to jump ship to the HD2?

I am seriously thinking about it, even though it would mean switching carriers.

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thats a negative.

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Im planning on getting it when it comes To big red, i would never switch to tmobile just for a phone.

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I would never switch to T-Mobile PERIOD! haha, I'll wait until there's a snapdragon phone with a keyboard on Sprint, I figure by then capacitive will HAVE to be the standard (in smartphones at least). I pray HTC doesn't prove me wrong on that one, but with the incredible success and hype of the HD2 so far, I can't see them NOT implementing their capacitive magic on some other WM phones.

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Only if it comes to sprint and I can get it on my SERO plan, otherwise I'm not interested.

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Not me. HD2 is too big for my taste. I would like a TP3 with same size, WVGA AMOLED, more RAM and faster CPU.

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anybody willing to jump ship is out of their mind. tmobile network compared to sprint and verizon is a joke. If sprint and verizon don't get the hd2 they eventually will have to have a winmo phone with snapdragon processor and capacitive screen.

edit: yeah i changed my mind, at the end of this thread, tmobile will have my business.

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If the HD2 had a keyboard and tilting scxreen, I'd be there. T-Mobile prices are actually better than Sprint's in a lot of cases, and GSM is better than CDMA too. So I'd have no problem switching to T-Mobile.

I have no interest whatsoever in getting a phone that doesn't have a keyboard though, so the HD2 doesn't do it for me.

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i plan to go HD2 but when it comes to Sprint on jan 6, although there is doubt if it will work on my sero(since it will most likely have 4g)

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You know this for a fact? Can you lead me to a website confirming this?

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I don't know where you live but gsm is worse then cdma by far hands down. maybe in your particular area gsm is better but if you take the masses, cdma tops gsm hands down in the USA.

this is my guess also. i've been saying sprint will probably be releasing the specs for the hd2 on jan 6 with 4g, i hope we're right.

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My sentiments exactly. I almost didn't get the TP2 because I didn't want to spend the $$ on a phone that I'll want to upgrade once the Windows Phone 7 handsets hit the streets. I ended up getting a TP2 as an upgrade for my overheating Touch Pro.

I'd love to get the HD2 but not if it's going to force me out of my plan.

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damn. So no more sero plans when 4g comes out? shit......shitt.......shit......

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I would also loved to get the HD2, but in the south texas area att/t-mobile is not the carrier to have for "3g coverage" it is pretty bad, and their data plans are just crazy talk compared to lets say sprint.

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it sure is tempting, but i think im gonna hold off a year or two till the wm7 devices start coming out

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all the people with sero plans be aware there is another sero plan that works with hero, palm, and instinct. its 59.99, anymobile anytime, 500 anytime minutes, unlimited data, unlimited text, free sprint navigation. for those on 29.99 sero this doesn't help but people on 49.99 sero this is a reasonable option because most people only call cell phones anyway.

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GSM is NOT worse than CDMA. Maybe in your area CDMA might have better coverage o0r something, but the technology is not even close.

Some examples:
1: On our Touch Pro 2's the dialer has a hold button while the GSM version has a conference button. Why? Because CDMA doesn't support it.

2: Simultaneous voice and data on GSM, not CDMA. It sure was nice when I could open Bing and find a movie and restaraunt- while talking to my wife about what she wanted to do. Or watch the game on my slingplayer and not get interupted when my wife calls. Or send an email while talking to someone and have them tell me they got it before I get off the phone.

3: Cell tower location. When you open Bing or Google Maps on a GSM phone it knows your location before the app even finishes opening. There is no waiting for the GPS to lock on, or using the last saved location untiul the GPS locks on. It just uses the cell tower to locate you instantly, which it can't do on CDMA.

4: Better phones because of the world supports the same technology.

5: Easier to change phones. Just pop out your SIM card and pop it into the new phone. No need to get an online activation or call. No need to buy a phone that is in some database and get forced onto a certain plan or whatever. No need to make sure one phone is turned off for a certain amount if time while the new phone gets activated. Just pop in the SIM card and go.

6: Speed. AT&T has the fastest 3G in the nation right now if you have coverage. Their only issue is way too many users. But if there aren't way too many users in yoru area, AT&T will have the fastest 3G right now- both upload (which isn't even close) and download. And T-Mobile is just about to launch their nationwide 21 meg HSPA+ 3G network. So they are about to go from worst to first in that catagory. They have been silently upgrading for a while, but have yet to "flip the on switch" yet. When they do, look out.

Seriously man, GSM blows CDMA out of the water. The only way anyone can say CDMA is better is if they have better CDMA coverage in their area (and I mean WAY better, because if it's close GSM will still win).
Did you read that recent gizmodo report where they tested 3G networks in multiple cities and AT&T had by far the fastest? Lok at it like this, AT&T has been claiming they had the fastest 3G for a while now. Nobody has called BS on them. Verizon, rather than call BS on them, instead went after their coverage. So even Verizon is agreeing with me- if you have good coverage, AT&T will be better.

I am on Sprint because it is cheaper, not because I think it's the best...

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the keyboard will not leave me.

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The current international model is 3G, so one would assume that US version would be the same. Although until T-Mo releases the actual specs, nobody knows for sure.

However, now that most networks (Verizon, Sprint, et.al.) are shifting towards the 4G LTE network, one would assume that within the next year or so, top smartphones like this one will start becoming LTE models

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If it's with Sprint, then i'm with it. Otherwise, I'll just wait for the next big HTC phone for Sprint. :D

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haha when it comes to sprint on jan 6 hahahahahahaha where did u even get this idea from:scratch:

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Cell tower location is possible with CDMA. :)

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sprint i kno for a fact will not announce the HD2 with 4g....htc has other 4 g devices like the one out in russia that we could get but no...

people on these forums have really really sky high hopes for shit

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Sprint has the best bank for your bucks, especially for data. 4g HD2 is possible, how about iphone 4g down the road?

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Right, if you pay the carrier and license it from them on a carrier by carrier and app by app basis.
On GSM it is a standard, and any app can do it with any carrier.

I saw a thread on the official Microsoft forums about this very issue, and the Bing developers flat out said that they can't do cell tower location on CDMA for this very reason. They said they had been working on a work around for a while.

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gsm can eat it with its misfit toys lol:evil4:
http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20091118/...ap_270x177.jpg

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it all depends on when att goes to wimax...they spent so much cash already and just trying to build the fastest 3g in america and its slightly faster then verzion and sprint...

i dont think HTC can change all the internals of the phone for 4g but who knows....

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aGPS (cell tower LBS) still works on CDMA networks. Google Maps locates me to within 1,000 meters before the app loads based solely off cell tower triangulation, allowing the GPS trilateration to find me within 10 meters within about 10 seconds - all on Verizon

Although in keeping with your other points, I DO wish we CDMA users had simultaneous data and voice

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Google Maps locates so fast because Google maintains its own database of cell towers and their locations.

AGPS has to be licensed from each carrier on an app by app basis.

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My Tower lock is instant on Sprint. However GSM might be more accurate because it needs 10x more towers (that's not an exaggeration).

GSM is a joke. Yes it can do data during a call (if you can find 3G). But overall the call quality and coverage is no contest. The main reason is GSM needs so many more towers to have equal coverage of CDMA and there are just so many holes. In a well covered area they both are fine. But you'll find more holes with GSM. GSM also does not gracefully degrade like CDMA does.

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Of course, all of this doesn't matter since all the major carriers will be 4G LTE within the next year or so anyway. 3G is already old technology

GSM and CDMA will soon be no more

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yes its easier to change phones but so what. simultaneous talk and data is the only advantage. when it comes to speed of 3g service and network realiability and coverage gsm is boo boo. you need to read thru this whole thread and the other hd2 thread, do you see how many people won't leave sprint and big red, its because the gsm network sucks my friend. the potential is out there, but its not as good as sprint and verizon, this thread alone proves that.

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From the Microsoft forums, posted by a Microsoft employee, regarding Bing and cell tower location on CDMA:
In case this might also help: The Bing team has been tracking and isolating this issue. They reported to me today that Bing does not work with CDMA at this time but they are continuing to investigate what they can do including collaboration with carriers. Note that some CDMA carriers lock GPS/Locate Me for 911 use only, hence some of this limitation issue.
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/e...8-d45b618a6cd2

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With a screen this big and the use of swype (and the other one) its made my keyboard useless. Although the TP2 size is perfect the HD2 size is overkill, but I may switch if it comes to Sprint and give the TP2 to my other half....

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Well AT&T has mopre users than Sprint, and T-Mobile is rapidly approaching them, so this thread doesn't mean too much in the grand scheme of things.

Sprint is losing customers by the millions every quarter, while both T-Mobile and AT&T are gaining by the millions every quarter. I would think that millions of people speaking with their wallets means a lot more than what 20 or 50 people post in a thread.

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Sprint is not going LTE, they are going WiMax.

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If the HD2 comes to Sprint & I can AFFORD it, count me in. I won't switch carriers for it though.

I would have a sex change before I'd switch to GSM. Its old technology, and like p-slim said, simultaneous voice & data are the only real advantage. Yeah you can switch phones easier, but how many times do you really NEED to do that? Sprint is perfect. Fast data, cheap plans, and the phones I want. My parents & I share a family plan- 3 phones for a grand total of exactly $100 a month. That's including my data & unlimited text, and NO it's not a grandfathered plan. If I switched to AT&T I'd pay that much just for ONE line. They wanted a $750 deposit from me the one time I tried to sign up years ago, and my credit wasn't even that bad. And don't get me started on T-Mo. I had them back in 05 & one time I went a whole WEEK not being able to make calls & nobody could figure out why. I have a friend with T-Mo that can't receive pic mail unless he's OUTSIDE.

I've personally compared data speeds on my phone & my best friend's AT&T phone, and mine was faster.

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All of you guys saying simultaneous voice and data are the only real advantage to GSM must not have read my post where I listed 6 advantages...

Remember before the iPhone could use MMS or copy and paste how all the iPhone users used to say "It's nopt important to me anyway" and then those same users jumped for joy when they got those features? CDMA users seem to be doing the same thing in this thread. If CDMA ever got the advantages I listed for GSM, all of you would be celebrating it.

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who needs a physical keyboard with that massive onscreen keyboard? that things a beauty and snappy as can be, the youtube vids make me wanna jiz n my shizorts... I Myself left a cdma carrier for tmobiles tp2 (long story but I savd money and got 2) gsm is just as good as cdma in my area so thats why i did it,,,, but i wouldnt recomment it unless you got good 3g like here in Portland Or.... Cdma does have better signal in general..... I do like the easy switching of phones and talk and data at the same time.... Cdma is better though IMO......


back on topic yes ill probably get it if its got good battery life, i mean why wait till later 2010 for another one? What if I die a week before that, damnnn...lol

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For data speeds, here you guys go:
http://gizmodo.com/5428343/

Note that in good coverage areas, AT&T wins hands down.

Trust me, I had AT&T and now I have Sprint. AT&T data is way better, not even close. And when you factor in coverage inside buildings, GSM destroys CDMA.