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Old 12-04-2009, 05:15 PM
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Re: hard spl unlock not working on my replaced phone...

I posted my findings regarding this issue in the hard spl thread too.

They are absolutely logging the IMEI's of the phones, IP addresses, and who knows what else. If you try to activate a new/replacement phone from an IP address that has already activated one, your new/replacement phone will be blacklisted till you pay or wait for support.

As I said in the HSPL thread... there is some SHADY shit going on!
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:21 PM
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Re: hard spl unlock not working on my replaced phone...

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I posted my findings regarding this issue in the hard spl thread too.

They are absolutely logging the IMEI's of the phones, IP addresses, and who knows what else. If you try to activate a new/replacement phone from an IP address that has already activated one, your new/replacement phone will be blacklisted till you pay or wait for support.

As I said in the HSPL thread... there is some SHADY shit going on!
well each phone has a new IMEI... my connection is not static, therefore i can just reboot my router and i'll be on a new IP address... as for the other info, i'm wondering what it is
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:00 PM
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Re: hard spl unlock not working on my replaced phone...

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I posted my findings regarding this issue in the hard spl thread too.

They are absolutely logging the IMEI's of the phones, IP addresses, and who knows what else. If you try to activate a new/replacement phone from an IP address that has already activated one, your new/replacement phone will be blacklisted till you pay or wait for support.

As I said in the HSPL thread... there is some SHADY shit going on!
This is correct. If you unlock your phone at your place on your network, now your network, phone, AND computer is on the list and CAN’T unlock another phone. Now say your roommate, wife, brother or anybody else has a Touch Pro 2 and want to unlock at your place, they will not be able too. Plus their never unlocked phone is now blacklisted.

Say you used your laptop to unlock your phone on your network and you have a coworker at work that wants to unlock on your laptop using your companies network. You will not be able to unlock your coworkers phone on your companies network using your laptop and now your companies network and your coworkers phone is flagged/blacklisted.

Technically nobody at your job has unlocked yet, but since you tried to unlock your coworkers phone on your laptop on your companies network, now nobody else in the company will be able to use the network to unlock a phone. Lol Plus your coworker who has never had an unlock performed, his phone is blacklisted and has to contact support to get his IMEI approved.

Once a phone has been unlocked on a computer or network, you have to use a new phone on a new computer on a new network to unlock it. A phone can’t be anywhere near a network that has had an unlock, otherwise they will have to pay or contact support. Lol

It’s a RACKET, but we have no choice. Lol Well you do have a choice, either Pay to play, or don’t pay and can’t play. lol
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:29 AM
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Re: hard spl unlock not working on my replaced phone...

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This is correct. If you unlock your phone at your place on your network, now your network, phone, AND computer is on the list and CAN’T unlock another phone. Now say your roommate, wife, brother or anybody else has a Touch Pro 2 and want to unlock at your place, they will not be able too. Plus their never unlocked phone is now blacklisted.

Say you used your laptop to unlock your phone on your network and you have a coworker at work that wants to unlock on your laptop using your companies network. You will not be able to unlock your coworkers phone on your companies network using your laptop and now your companies network and your coworkers phone is flagged/blacklisted.

Technically nobody at your job has unlocked yet, but since you tried to unlock your coworkers phone on your laptop on your companies network, now nobody else in the company will be able to use the network to unlock a phone. Lol Plus your coworker who has never had an unlock performed, his phone is blacklisted and has to contact support to get his IMEI approved.

Once a phone has been unlocked on a computer or network, you have to use a new phone on a new computer on a new network to unlock it. A phone can’t be anywhere near a network that has had an unlock, otherwise they will have to pay or contact support. Lol

It’s a RACKET, but we have no choice. Lol Well you do have a choice, either Pay to play, or don’t pay and can’t play. lol

This is exactly what happened to me, my dad and my brother. I unlocked first, then I tried to unlock my brothers on his laptop on the same internet connection which led to error. Took his phone to my dad's office to try there and it didn't work there. So then I tried to unlock my dad's phone on a completely different computer in the office and his sent up the already unlocked error too! I don't know what they are gathering but it is pretty extensive.

Now my only question is my girlfriend has a tp2 now and I want to unlock it but I am afraid to use her laptop to do it because she has used her laptop on my home network before and I am almost wondering if they are digging so deep into files for "licensing information" that it will say her computer has already unlocked a device.
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:49 AM
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Re: hard spl unlock not working on my replaced phone...

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This is exactly what happened to me, my dad and my brother. I unlocked first, then I tried to unlock my brothers on his laptop on the same internet connection which led to error. Took his phone to my dad's office to try there and it didn't work there. So then I tried to unlock my dad's phone on a completely different computer in the office and his sent up the already unlocked error too! I don't know what they are gathering but it is pretty extensive.

Now my only question is my girlfriend has a tp2 now and I want to unlock it but I am afraid to use her laptop to do it because she has used her laptop on my home network before and I am almost wondering if they are digging so deep into files for "licensing information" that it will say her computer has already unlocked a device.
So the unlocker sends its ID number to the developer. If someone tries to use it a second time, it gets locked out. So what's the big mystery?

Using a different computer may have worked on some versions of the unlocker but that doesn't mean the program wasn't rewritten so as to keep people from unlimited use. Consider the situation where someone post the program on a website for free downloads. That would make it impossible for the developer to monitize it.
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Re: hard spl unlock not working on my replaced phone...

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So the unlocker sends its ID number to the developer. If someone tries to use it a second time, it gets locked out. So what's the big mystery?

Using a different computer may have worked on some versions of the unlocker but that doesn't mean the program wasn't rewritten so as to keep people from unlimited use. Consider the situation where someone post the program on a website for free downloads. That would make it impossible for the developer to monitize it.
the mystery is that it won't work even if you download another unlocker from another computer.
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:11 PM
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Re: hard spl unlock not working on my replaced phone...

Could it be as simple as when the HardSPL is run the first time, it saves the IMEI in within the program itself, and checks online to see if the IMEI is good or not for the upgrade.
That would explain for different connections on different computers.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:31 PM
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Re: hard spl unlock not working on my replaced phone...

i had a replacement and they made me pay for it pretty shady one not a flat rate for like 10 unlocks that would cover you for the life of the phone and replacements.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:42 PM
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Re: hard spl unlock not working on my replaced phone...

So, no one else in the world has the ability to unlock a TP2?
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:29 PM
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Re: hard spl unlock not working on my replaced phone...

One that concerns me the most...especially with all this talk....What if our ESN's are compromised?? There could be people out there "spoofing" and not paying for service??!!??!!??!!
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