HTC Touch HD Pro leaked!!!!!

[BROOKNAM]

man this pda looks like a combination of the touch vogue and the touch diamond, it looks flat with a wide screen. they should have skipped the diamond and went straight to this...

[PocketPcUser]

Originally Posted by jethro_static

yThe Diamond does not have SSD. Iphones and Diamonds that has built in storage have Flash memory. it is slower than SSD. If U put SSD on the phone, it will be an upgrade because it is way too fast. It can handle a full OS like Vista so WM is a piece of cake.

Wireless N will never be implemented.atleast at the moment. Why? Carriers is in the business of selling DATA Plans. In the future, where hotspots will be everywhere and U have wireless N, U might not get Data plans anymore. Maybe we won't be getting Voice plans too. Because we can use the hotspot with wireless N on skype. Bad for business for carriers. So do not wish for wireless N.

Abelincoln, How did U figure 720P on HD? Do u know that U need 1280x720 to run 720p? Believe it or not, Iphone can handle 1080P output. This has been discussed before but some of U are confused about it. Iphone can handle 1920x1080 to be outputed on an HD TV. Now U people will say that our phone can do that too. The point that U do not understand is U don't just resize the video to 1920x1080. If U do that, the quality is still the same. U have to decode the h.264 codec which is the same quality as Blueray Disc. No phone can handle that as of now. Prolly Tegra equipped phone. But according to their specs, output is only 720P. Well, Iphone is being compared to PSP most of the time because of it's ability to play videos and it's 3d engine.

Edit: 1080P resolution played on Iphone's 3.5 screen with no problem. Somebody just need to come up with the cable to be outputed on an HDTV.

SD card is never an upgrade. Sure u can have more storage but u are giving up a lot of things too. Speed and security of the data. Even small counterfeit chinese company can put microSD in their phones. How can this be an upgrade? LOL

overclocking is unstable. it causes a lot of heat too. So really, overclocking is not recomended. Even PC have that warning.

If U have a 1080P 32" HDTV. U sold it and bought the same 1080P HDTV but this time it's 42". U woulnd't call that an upgrade? If that's not an upgrade to U, HD is not an upgrade then.

I appreciate you taking the time to reply, and for typing such a though-out response.
First, let me address the SSD:
- I know it isn't SSD in the Diamond, I was just saying solid-state memory, basically. I wasn't certain that it wasn't still considered solid-state, so I wasn't going to just call it flash memory.
802.11 Draft N
- You're absolutely right, carriers would never release it, but even stand-alone devices don't have N, so that is not as good of an arguement. Although, it stands perfectly well against the Touch HD, I was merely talking in general about PDA's and technology.

I actually think you are not correct in your statement about SD cards:
- The Axim has both CF and SD, and I think this is an upgrade over having just a single drive. However, with most devices coming with GPS, I don't think a second drive is needed, however I do think that the move to smaller cards was not wise. I think having a mini-sd drive/reader takes up just as much space as a full-size reader. Ok, so maybe not technically, but I just think it was a marketing move.

Also, why the move towards micro, when the speed is in the CF and SD cards? I doubt you can get the same speed, as you can get with full-size cards.

The main advantage of having a reader BTW, is only having to have your music stored, on one card, and your pictures stored on one card. Having a limit is never an option, at least not for me. You mean you think having the 4GB storage is an upgrade to a 16GB storage??

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by PocketPcUser

I appreciate you taking the time to reply, and for typing such a though-out response.
First, let me address the SSD:
- I know it isn't SSD in the Diamond, I was just saying solid-state memory, basically. I wasn't certain that it wasn't still considered solid-state, so I wasn't going to just call it flash memory.
802.11 Draft N
- You're absolutely right, carriers would never release it, but even stand-alone devices don't have N, so that is not as good of an arguement. Although, it stands perfectly well against the Touch HD, I was merely talking in general about PDA's and technology.

I actually think you are not correct in your statement about SD cards:
- The Axim has both CF and SD, and I think this is an upgrade over having just a single drive. However, with most devices coming with GPS, I don't think a second drive is needed, however I do think that the move to smaller cards was not wise. I think having a mini-sd drive/reader takes up just as much space as a full-size reader. Ok, so maybe not technically, but I just think it was a marketing move.

Also, why the move towards micro, when the speed is in the CF and SD cards? I doubt you can get the same speed, as you can get with full-size cards.

The main advantage of having a reader BTW, is only having to have your music stored, on one card, and your pictures stored on one card. Having a limit is never an option, at least not for me. You mean you think having the 4GB storage is an upgrade to a 16GB storage??

Security is the main reason why removable storage is not a very good option. However lower cost makes it to the device. How many here are having problems with corrupt cards? U move the cards in and out, the data is beiing corrupt. Internal memory will always be faster because it's almost built in the board. In time, flash or SSD's will be incorporated in these devices. But not now because it's too expensive to put it there. That is why removable cards are placed to save cost and for the consumer to afford. It is cheaper to just put a removable card in a device. And when u go on the cheaper way, It is not an upgrade. ipod's have up to 160GB and it so expensive and it is only a PMP.

and yes, The manufacturer gave U an upgrade with 4gigs of internal memory than a microSD reader inside the phone for the same price. The manufacturer will not give u the 16 giger microsd. U have to buy it urself. Add that to the cost of the phone. card reader is only 5 bucks. I doubt it that 4gigs of flash memory is 5 bucks.
Manufacturer cannot give U 16 gigs of internal memory or higher. as of yet because of the price. we might not afford it. If we can't buy it, they can't make profit.

[PocketPcUser]

Thanks for your reply, and you have made your points, and correctly supported them.
To each is his own..

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by PocketPcUser

Thanks for your reply, and you have made your points, and correctly supported them.
To each is his own..

ur point are considerable as well.

[Nagrom Nniuq]

Originally Posted by jethro_static

yThe Diamond does not have SSD. Iphones and Diamonds that has built in storage have Flash memory. it is slower than SSD. If U put SSD on the phone, it will be an upgrade because it is way too fast. It can handle a full OS like Vista so WM is a piece of cake.

Wireless N will never be implemented.atleast at the moment. Why? Carriers is in the business of selling DATA Plans. In the future, where hotspots will be everywhere and U have wireless N, U might not get Data plans anymore. Maybe we won't be getting Voice plans too. Because we can use the hotspot with wireless N on skype. Bad for business for carriers. So do not wish for wireless N.

Abelincoln, How did U figure 720P on HD? Do u know that U need 1280x720 to run 720p? Believe it or not, Iphone can handle 1080P output. This has been discussed before but some of U are confused about it. Iphone can handle 1920x1080 to be outputed on an HD TV. Now U people will say that our phone can do that too. The point that U do not understand is U don't just resize the video to 1920x1080. If U do that, the quality is still the same. U have to decode the h.264 codec which is the same quality as Blueray Disc. No phone can handle that as of now. Prolly Tegra equipped phone. But according to their specs, output is only 720P. Well, Iphone is being compared to PSP most of the time because of it's ability to play videos and it's 3d engine.

Edit: 1080P resolution played on Iphone's 3.5 screen with no problem. Somebody just need to come up with the cable to be outputed on an HDTV.

SD card is never an upgrade. Sure u can have more storage but u are giving up a lot of things too. Speed and security of the data. Even small counterfeit chinese company can put microSD in their phones. How can this be an upgrade? LOL

overclocking is unstable. it causes a lot of heat too. So really, overclocking is not recomended. Even PC have that warning.

If U have a 1080P 32" HDTV. U sold it and bought the same 1080P HDTV but this time it's 42". U woulnd't call that an upgrade? If that's not an upgrade to U, HD is not an upgrade then.

That's nice but the iPhone screen isn't even VGA so it's a total loss and waste. Also, the iPhone does not support video out, so it actually cannot display it on a TV until that is sorted out.

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by Nagrom Nniuq

That's nice but the iPhone screen isn't even VGA so it's a total loss and waste. Also, the iPhone does not support video out, so it actually cannot display it on a TV until that is sorted out.

Iphone have TV out since the day it came out. Whatchu talking about?HAHAHA. even ipod video and ipod classic have TV out. i use it. if apple or somebody will release a iphone/Ipod to HDMI cable, That would be awesome. it will not be a waste. Why is not a VGA a total loss? HAHAHA. Iphone has 480x320 screen display.Accelerometer, multi touch etc.2 YEARS AGO! What do U have 2 years ago? Diamond has VGA but U cannot see it on a screen bigger than 2.8". LOL

I am a proud owner of a 1st gen Iphone. But I am a WM poweruser.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1454

[GLOCKMAMA]

To all of you with comments or questions about the release of the Touch HD (I quoted several of u below), check out the reply I received directly from HTC when I inquired about the US release and possible carriers. It's great news to most of us.

"
Michelle, we thank you for your enthusiasm in our products and are more than happy to answer any questions pertaining to our phones.The HTC HD is expected to be released in the European market by the end of this year.We expect to have this phone out in the North American market shortly after.We have not set a price nor do we have any information on which carriers will host this phone.You can find more information at our press release link here: http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=65236.We apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused you and thank you for your patience.


I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.


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Originally Posted by TreyBeno

...Ive been searching around and I found that it might be a release for the christmas season. I HATE TO SPECULATE ABOUT A PHONE RELEASE BCUZ IT NEVER HOLDS UP ... but thats whats being whispered...

Originally Posted by SprintTouch08

...Who knows when it will even be available overseas, let alone the US or CDMA if it ever even comes to CDMA). Id be willing to bet you dont see it even overseas for a release until 2009, meaning IF the US sees it itll be a year...

Originally Posted by joe3789

Say it isn't released for another year ...

Originally Posted by TreyBeno

...This is the first time we are seeing this device so it could be almost a year if we wait the normal timeline of test first, Europe next, and the US last...

Originally Posted by 000

So what is everyone's guess about when this is coming to cdma? Do you think there is any possibility of it happening at the end of 08?

Originally Posted by bionic1ball

...no reason to get our hopes up this thing probably won't hit our shores for a while...

Originally Posted by archtech3d

It will be a bit before we see it over here. HTC has plenty of Diamonds and Pros to sell before this phone. It's called sell whatcha got first!

Originally Posted by nmoreman

...Anyone have any ideas on non-GSM versions in US, Sprint in particular?...Or is this for everyone but the US?

Originally Posted by Exil3d

I give this about 1 1/2 years before we see it on Sprint.

Originally Posted by huggosz

...by the time the touch HD comes out (prob 8 months from now)...

Originally Posted by jethro_static

...Nobody even knows if it will hit the north american teritory...

Originally Posted by boe

...we won't get anything like it over here any time soon...

Originally Posted by jimmiekain

...Can someone please tell me when this thing is coming to America?

Originally Posted by dabackwoodboy

no one really knows but my guess would be probably another year b4 we would ever see this in the states if we see it in the states

Originally Posted by marcjen

I doubt you'll see this in the US. If you do it'll be late spring/summer of next year...

Originally Posted by Nagrom Nniuq

...Prolly around March I am guessing...

Originally Posted by boe

...I doubt we'll see the HD on SPrint for another year...I'll probably just... get the HD when it comes out in December.

Originally Posted by Torx

...no telling when the HD will be out...

Originally Posted by jethro_static

The HTC Touch HD is ready for pre order. It will be yours for a low price of $880 bucks(converted)...

Originally Posted by O'Neil Mitchell

...For all you know it won't be out until next summer

Originally Posted by TreyBeno

...it wont be out until around Christmas in Europe (SUPPOSEDLY). This probably means it will be about a year from now before this thing even hits a US carrier

Originally Posted by iamjasonc

...and the HD whenever the hell it comes out in March of 09...no wait june of 09....no wait sept of 09...no wait the power is out in the warehouse...october

Originally Posted by Nagrom Nniuq

...HD in less than 6 months. I'm guessing it will come out around March on Sprint, since HTC has a track record of releasing their phones in the US ~3 months after Europe. So, if they release the HD for Christmas time, 3 months after that is...

Originally Posted by willysp

In about a year I'd guess - summer maybe...

Originally Posted by TreyBeno

...I still think it will be forever before Sprint or somebody CDMA will release this...

Originally Posted by jethro_static

If HD will not hit the U.S. soil...

Originally Posted by Fittske

I beleive you will see this in the states. This will be HTC's new flagship phone. It will just take some time before you see it. It will launch over sea's first since... I beleive we will see gen 2 ...here in the states. Sometime mid 2009. I expect to see an unlocked version coming directly from HTC and a CDMA version subsidised by the usual suspects.

Originally Posted by Whosdaman

HTC HD won't be coming to US, it's like the HTC Dual

Originally Posted by Torx

...by the time th HD is released in the USA, CDMA, sprint, there will be something FFAARR FAR superior to the HD...i wouldnt hold your breath on the hd being cdma released soon...

Originally Posted by matthewbrines

The Touch HD is set for release next mounth per my Corp Sprint rep...

Originally Posted by Exil3d

So no word at all if we will see this on Sprint this year? I bet if we do it will be next summer.

Originally Posted by justchilian05

...when high profile intisipated phones come out it takes forever. so im personally shooting for summer

Originally Posted by jethro_static

fcc approved the euro version. no U.S.version yet.

Originally Posted by slypher

LOL, no way this is coming to sprint in 2008!!

Originally Posted by d94

that wont be out in the states until atleast next summer if not longer

Originally Posted by jds580s

...Releasing a phone in the US costs HTC a load of money...And from the US carriers perspective some suggested they would hold off on the HD...in the US market it's almost always a race to see who releases first...If Verizon came out with the HD first you can bet that people interested in it would leave sprint to get the device they want. (or vice versa)...I may be wrong, but my guess is that HTC didn't think the US demand for the HD would be worth all the time and money required for a launch in the US...

Originally Posted by namyboyz44

...i still think its a marketing scheme and will be release in the beginning of next year.

Originally Posted by reekolu

...because of post like these suggesting it would'nt be released in the US...

Originally Posted by Nagrom Nniuq

...They already have a bunch of major phones just released and bringing in another within 6 months that is WAY better would kill sales.

Originally Posted by jethro_static

2 threads are created today saying that the Touch HD is not coming to the U.S. I posted this yesterday 43 mins after HTC announced it...

Originally Posted by jethro_static

Sad news my fellow hopefuls. The HTC Super Phone is not coming to the U.S. and it's official. So give up ur hopes. it aint happenin...sad news, US. we looked into it- by the time we could bring Touch HD to the states...

Originally Posted by Nagrom Nniuq

...since the HD isn't coming to the US ("we have no plans for a US 3G version of the HD at this time." - http://twitter.com/htc")...

Originally Posted by jethro_static

Do not wait for the HD. It might not come here...

Originally Posted by LoriInWA

...until HD comes out. I hope at least a phone nearly identical to the HD is released in the US.

Originally Posted by jethro_static

It's always europe and asia first...We might or might not see the U.S. version of the HD...

Originally Posted by jds580s

HTC on twitter just posted "We can't promise the US will get a phone similar to the HD, only hope along with you that the possibility exists."..."don't give up hope...just because the HD isn't slated for america doesn't mean we'll never get a 480p HTC"...I hope that's just what they have to say because nothing official has been announced by any US carriers, but if it's true that the HD is not going to be in the US that's a shame.

Originally Posted by Nagrom Nniuq

I agree with summer 09. Actually, my guess would be March 09...

Originally Posted by jethro_static

don't believe those. It's speculation. U.S. version prolly doesnt have a blue print yet. Or prolly it will not even touch the U.S. soil. it's all speculation U know.

Originally Posted by ppcboi318

is it coming to the US?

Originally Posted by youngesco

I read about this on another site a few weeks back and it appeared to me that this device wasn't coming to the sprint or the states for that matter. Is this still the case?

Originally Posted by AstronusX

nice but whether this phone will launch to U.S is another question

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Originally Posted by boe

Let me introduce you to my carrier - Sprint - they don't really like new things. Technology scares them...

R u kidding me? Sprint beats the hell out of Verizon. Come to VZW for a while & then u can c what it's like to finally get a device when it'scompletely obsolete. VZW is usually 1 year behind Sprint.

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Originally Posted by Nagrom Nniuq

...Mods we need a HTC Touch HD forum now please.

Originally Posted by Nagrom Nniuq

When can this have it's own forum? Does it have to wait until it is released? Even though the device exists and is in pre-release testing?

I started a thread titled HTC Touch HD - Join My Crusade!!! I would love it if
people would start their talks about it there, so it can be in one location.

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by GLOCKMAMA

To all of you with comments or questions about the release of the Touch HD (I quoted several of u below), check out the reply I received directly from HTC when I inquired about the US release and possible carriers. It's great news to most of us.

"
Michelle, we thank you for your enthusiasm in our products and are more than happy to answer any questions pertaining to our phones.The HTC HD is expected to be released in the European market by the end of this year.We expect to have this phone out in the North American market shortly after.We have not set a price nor do we have any information on which carriers will host this phone.You can find more information at our press release link here: http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=65236.We apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused you and thank you for your patience.


I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.


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R u kidding me? Sprint beats the hell out of Verizon. Come to VZW for a while & then u can c what it's like to finally get a device when it'scompletely obsolete. VZW is usually 1 year behind Sprint.

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I started a thread titled HTC Touch HD - Join My Crusade!!! I would love it if
people would start their talks about it there, so it can be in one location.

That is a great news. But like HTC said, By the time it comes to the U.S., It would not be new anymore. I will not wait for that and I will believe it when it's here. treybeno started this thread long before U started urs. So we will end it here.

[Hoof]

Holy crap Glock did you just quote the whole thread? Nice info btw