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I'm going to have to agree that it is getting a bit ridiculous seeing people talk about the Touch HD everywhere on the forum... it needs its own subforum and I don't see why you jumped all over him for saying that.

Re: I wanted the Diamond until the Touch HD- much much better IMHO
 

People are excited with the Touch HD. what's wrong? Like what boe said, Ignore the threads or post that U don't like then move on. Touch HD is still unofficial and cannot have it's own subforum. "Don't get mad, Get glad."

Re: I wanted the Diamond until the Touch HD- much much better IMHO
 

Both Raphael and Diamond got their own subforums before they were official so quit blowing smoke when you don't know what you're talking about.

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I'm sure the HD will get it's own forum when it is closer to coming out but I wanted to know what people who are interested in the Diamond thought about the HD especially since the HD's potential launch date is so close to the diamond's US launch date and because they share a lot of similar features but also have differences worth noting. Obviously I took there comment the wrong way. I would have been fine if he posted it once on the first page but to revisit the thread he said he didn't want to read and post again - seems a little odd.

There are a ton of threads that don't interest me - I tend to read the subject of the thread - if it doesn't interest me I don't actually read the thread. If there is a particularly topic that interests me - I do a search.

If I had posted a question about the mogul in this thread - that probably should be moved but my topic was the diamond and the HD. If I had posted it in an HD thread - would he be upset I mentioned the Diamond in an HD thread?

I guess I've never asked to have anyone else's threads removed (certainly not twice), I've never called anyone elses threads useless - not sure what the advantage is in doing that.

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LOL the man is mad for no reason. Lmao!

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OK - I regret getting caught up in something I shouldn't have even responded to. I don't like ruffling feathers. Life is far too short for me to get upset because someone doesn't like a topic I posted on a forum!

I would however like to thank those who have added some useful info abou the Diamond here. I thought the screen was smaller than it will be. Since it will be the same size as my touch, I can use it - I thought it would be too small for me to type and see plenty of other things on the screen.

I still want the HD much more than the Diamond but I think I can live with the Diamond until the HD becomes available.

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Touch HD rules! Can't wait!

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Wow... I really didn't expect anyone to respond to that. But I wasn't really trying to jump your gun. Sorry.

Edit: Went back to first page and saw what I said. I thought I said that elsewhere, my mistake.

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It's all good and I think the man regret what he said already. Let's get back the topic.

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Okay back on topic, how is the touch HD much much better? Heres my post from elsewhere, just don't want to re-write it all.

"Ok, I lied, this is my last post in this thread. For those of you waiting on the HD, it's the same thing as the Diamond really.. 256 RAM, 528mhz processors which are very similar. The only thing is, is that the HD has a sharper display which seems nice but may not support a lot of applications right now. Aside from anything else, by the time this phone is available for CDMA WinMo 7 will be already out. I plan to use my Diamond for a year, then swap to a WinMo 7 device.

Oh yeah, HD does have the head phone jack if that's really worth waiting a year though."

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The only thing that excites the people is the enormous screen size. The only known PPC that has this screen size is the xda flame. The flame is big and bulky plus does not have this kind of specs. With the HD, a new revolution will take place. It's the start. R U gonna be happy with WM7 with 2.8" screen? Looks pointless to me. With a screen size like the HD, HTC will find out if it's worth making this size of a screen by it's sales.

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abovelegit - thanks for your input - I agree brains wise so to speak they are very close - to me what makes it so much better is the LARGER screen - about twice the screen surface area for typing if my old high school math using a right triangle formula is correct.

The larger surface area will really make it much better for me as the keys on my screen keyboard will be much larger so it will be easier for me to type since I don't type that often every day but when I do it will be handy. It will allow me to have a larger keyboard but still see more of what I'm typing at the same time. OK - I'll admit browsing the web, checking my e-mail and everything else will be easier - as I'm approaching that age when many people start to need reading glasses.


The other thing I like is the 1350mah battery like the diamond has without having to be as thick as the diamond needed to be for the CDMA version to have a 1350mah battery.

The standard headphone jack is a little plus.

I don't know if wvga means much to me as I'll have to see how soon applications will be available to take advantage of it and not have compatability issues.


One last thing I like about the HTC Touch HD - Sprint hasn't tainted it yet with a fugly red back :)

So for me the key items are - thinner, larger screen keyboard, better browsing.

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Mainly, The only incompatible apps is the themes. But any other apps should work or somebody will figure this out once it comes out.

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Had my Mogul for over a year now. Took quite a few months to get the GPS running and many more to get the memory issues corrected. The Diamond is a nice incremental upgrade. I would love to wait for the HD but I cannot see continuing the rom dance that I have started with the Mogul.

If there are less immediate bugs in the Diamond, I think the upgrade will be worth it vs waiting another 6 months to a year for the HD. Remember, by then many more phones will be out or pending release and the HD may not be as remarkable as it seems today.

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Well, you have to remember, WM7 will have it's own devices, not the Diamond. Hopefully some of these new devices are larger screened, but I personally would be fine with 2.8 inches or 3. The HD will still most likely be running WM6.

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Like I said, When the sale of a 4 inch screen is good, HTC might come up with WM7 version. But if not, we're gonna be stuck with the 2.8 incher which most Iphone phanboys laugh about. With the 4 incher, They can't really think of any flaws but just say"it's still MS" which is totally nonsense.
Edit: I did not say that the HD will come with WM7. All i'm saying is that the HD will pave the way to bigger and better screen sizes.

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Uh, I don't care what others think about my device, as long as it fits my needs. HTC most likely will build a new device for WM7 because WM7 devices will all have multi-touch. This device may not even make it to CDMA seeing as that will be far from now and CDMA carriers wont want a phone with out dated software.

Re: I wanted the Diamond until the Touch HD- much much better IMHO
 

Im outtah here.

Re: I wanted the Diamond until the Touch HD- much much better IMHO
 

Let me introduce you to my carrier - Sprint - they don't really like new things. Technology scares them. They don't like bleeding edge technology, they don't like cutting edge technology, and they don't like offering firmware updates to their old technology even when it is being released by them as "new". They don't really like testing equipment before they sell it but they like to hold onto it a very long time before they release it so they can say they were testing it. I was told by a Sprint engineer they had the HTC Diamond in January (they may have had it sooner but he was aware his group had it for testing in January). It took them 9 months to put a red back on it, add some junkware and release it. Granted, it does have a thicker battery to handle the demands of CDMA but I'm pretty sure I could have had any electrical engineer calculate battery life without ever having physically touched the diamond.

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Well they did a good job with the Diamond technology wise. I kinda like the backing, and a ROM upgrade should get rid of the theme. By the way, in case I ever need to switch plans, what CDMA provider does like technology?

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Korea Telecom

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I see..

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That's quite a broad and unwarranted assumption about aspect ratio compatibility.

Many apps will work, many probably won't.

Re: I wanted the Diamond until the Touch HD- much much better IMHO
 

I think the HD would be a fine phone for WM7. I don't think multitouch is a requirement for Windows Mobile 7 any more than it will be for Windows 7. I think multitouch is a feature Windows Mobile will support but is not a requirement from what I've read.

I believe I saw someone even running a beta of WM7 on the mogul or the touch in some web site so I think the HD should have plenty of power to handle WM7.

While there will obviously be something newer and better coming out not long after the HD is released in Europe - the issue is that typcially Sprint isn't about to jump at the newer model and release it any time soon. So suppose the HDX comes out in April and it is even better than the HD - Sprint still typically takes 4 months to a year before releasing their version. Every engineer I've ever spoken with at the trade shows hates the Sprint "testing" process. From what I hear it is mainly about SPrint putting their market apps e.g. Sprint music on the phone which sometimes can effectively break other parts of the phone. I didn't get more details than that and I don't claim to know the OS ins and out on a WM device but I've certainly seen DLL's from AOL and other crap programs break a perfectly good PC.

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You sure it wasn't the skin.. If not I'd LOVE to see that video. I read on engadget that it will require multitouch, could be wrong though.

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Good question - I'm not positive if it was the real thing or a skin. As for multi-touch I'm only quoting posts I've googled on the web - since they aren't from microsoft's web site I can't say they are official or final.

I believe the mwg flame II is set for WM7 and I don't think it has multi-touch capability.

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Well did it look like this http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/i...dows-mobile-7/ ? Also this http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/wind...eak/1000424548 was in the gallery which lead me to believe multi touch on all phones, over here http://gizmodo.com/341287/windows-mo...otion-gestures however, it states WM7 will respond to shaking etc.., thus meaning at least all of the WM7 devices will require a G-sensor.

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wait i thought that our phones were plenty capable of multi-touch its just that wm doesn't support it as of right now.
but have you ever tried sms chat because i have it on my phone and i can have one finger on the screen and still slide up and down the screen with my other i mean i doesn't work like the i phone and it always centers back on were the first finger was but thats showing that our screens are capible of mulit-touch wm just isnt ready. and im no engineer or anything so i could be wrong. i do know for a fact that sms chat pics up on two fingers just not in quiet the way the iphone does

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I don't think so, if our phones like the Diamond could support it surely application makers could integrate it in there apps.

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above - I think you may be reading into it. WM7 may support gestures and shaking but that doesn't mean require it. Our current gen of Windows Mobile supports a touch screen and yet not all devices require a touch screen. Perhaps there will be different versions of WM7 just are there are of WM6.

I think much of what your finding results back to this repost of an article that has never been confirmed - that is why i couldn't say it was definite - http://techinsider.info/wm7.aspx

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That's because there are different options if you don't want a touch screen, you could have all hard buttons, but what could replace G-sensor for shaking etc... Anyways this has gone really off topic, im outta here for now.

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o well but good point, but just a question have you ever noticed it in sms chat

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if i am not mistaken. i have been wrong before, but i read somewhere that they were going to utilize the camera instead of the g sensor for wm7. i will try to post a link when i find it again. back on topic though... the hd is really nice looking but from the specs it does look like the same ones form the diamond, just a larger screen. i myself am a fan of the larger screen, but if that is it then i may hold off after i get the diamond to see what comes out next

Re: I wanted the Diamond until the Touch HD- much much better IMHO
 

Any word on an HTC HD Pro? 'Cause I'll pass on the Touch Pro for nothing less.

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Threads merged.

late,
Coz

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What the HECK! Is this? This is the sickest phone I have ever seen in my life! I dont care how much it is I AM GOING TO BUY IT! I just wanna know who is gonna have it in the us first! I'm gonna buy the Diamond for sprint when it comes out... take it back in oct. when the touch pro comes out... keep the touch pro until this bad boy is out and get this phone! I know nothing about it but i know I love it! Can someone please tell me when this thing is coming to America?

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I sent an e-mail to dan at sprint letting him know I would like them to carry the HD - I actually got a call back from a rep. I realize that my e-mail and my call really probably mean absolutely nothing - far less than a guy telling a girl he met in a bar, I'll call you tomorrow right before he runs out of her apartment with his shoes in his hands but I thought it was funny they call you back to follow up on your e-mail.

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I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon... :S

It's only european GSM, not american bands ...

I highly doubt that there's going to be a CDMA version before a US GSM version....

maybe something better is going to come out when my contract expires?

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good photographers dont need a flash.

either youre outside with natural light or youre inside with proper lighting.
flash is useless to me on a phone anyways.

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i have a feeling the strip club contingent would disagree with you.... just saying:twisted: lol