Free Tethering? I think so.
 

So I was having an issue with my data calls today, getting error code 67 when i tried dialing #777. Well I called Sprint Tech Support and they walked me through resetting my data profile. The ## code was ##3282# and I put in my MSL code after choosing Edit from the resulting menu.

I was able to Edit a setting that corresponded to my IP. It was initially set to Mobile IP Only and I change it to Mobile IP Preferred. I also changed the 3 keys in HKLM>Software>OEM>WMODEM all to 0 (disabled) so they couldn't detect tethering (Multi-NAI).

Now I can connect via Phone As Modem (which I wasn't able to do before) and getting 1.5 Mbps speed when I tether in Internet Sharing.

Let me know if anyone else has done/can do this. Do you think they're gonna fnd out and charge me? I don't see how they can and I can always just say that I really used the data on my phone.

can you give a step by step how you do this? i will try it on my phone

what kind of speeds do you get running a mobile speed test form your phone?

You have to have your MSL number (which is the unlock code for programming your phone yourself) in order to change anything. You can call Sprint Technical Support and tell them you're getting Error Code 67 and can't connect to the internet on your phone. (Or you can just ask the rep to give it to you.) They should walk you through how to reset the data services by making you input ##3282# and then they'll give you your MSL number. Write it down as it is unique to your phone. Then you can hang up or whatever. That's what I did anyway. But go into the menu they were walking you through anyway and Edit the Mobile IP Only to Mobile IP Preferred. Save and soft reset when it tells you to.

You'll need to edit your registry. The only three keys in HKLM>Software>OEM>WMODEM should all be changed to Decimal 0. (Make sure at least Multi-NAI is set to 0 as that is the tethering detection)

Then just go to Connections settings and make sure Phone As Modem is the default connection for dialing up. Open Internet Explorer on the phone and dial up. When the connection is established, open Internet Sharing, choose USB and Phone As Modem for the settings and just start it and connect the USB cable.

That's what I did and I'm getting about 1 Mbps to 1.3 Mbps both on my phone alone and when tethered to my laptop, all on just EVDO. Can't wait for EVDO Rev. A!

On my phone alone I'm getting consistent 1022~ Mbps. When I'm tethered I'm about the same. Fluctuates between 850 and 1200 Mbps.

Do you have a reason to choose "Phone as Modem" instead of "Sprint PCS"?

I get faster speeds using Phone As Modem rather than using Sprint PCS. Sprint PCS only gets me speeds of around 200 kbps to MAX 450 kbps...so I connect with the PAM option instead.

Thanks, electronicrice. One more question. What does changing "Mobile IP only" to "Mobile IP preferred" do?

You know, I'm not entirely sure. I read that it has something to do with how you switch towers. When you switch a tower in Simple IP Only mode, you have to disconnect data before you can get another IP on a new tower. Very inconvenient. But I just switched the setting to Mobile IP Preferred and now I can tether using Phone as Modem, which I couldn't do before.

electronicice YOU ROCK!!!! I have been fidgeting with this off and on since I got the mogul the day after it launched and all to no avail. I am currently sending this via my laptap tethered to the mogul with your tweak..... Thanks again

Does this work on the mac?

Are you sure this won't occur any extra charges? Can anyone confirm this by looking at their bill online.

Thanks!

There was a post on pdaphonehome where where someone confirmed "no extra charges" on their bill.

That was me, no extra charges. I used Internet sharing and PDAnet. Only the $15 Vision charge. If I could only get a bluetooth connection to work consistently I'd be a happy guy.

For those of us without Moguls, can you give us the connection settings for "Phone as modem"? I'd like to try this on my Apache.

okay, i tried using the ## code but it didnt bring me nowhere. im still stuck on the phone dialing screen. what am i doing wrong?

Also under the desktop connection. Only dialup connection i have there is a pdanet modem which is default. I'm guessing i have to use the new connection wizard. Can someone walk me thru the settings in there.

What I mean is someone without using PDAnet, but the other way posted above. Did anyone get charged using that method?

Thanks!

Please . . . I would like to try it on my 6700 as well. Thanks.

Even if you have PV on you account you can get charged for using phone as modem. But this would only happen if they see a big change in your data usage. otherwise there is no way for them to distinguish between you using PV or tethering.
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Re: Free Tethering? I think so.
 

Can you please tell me the exact directions because I've changed the settings to Mobile IP Preferred and change the Wmodem registry entry to 0 and yet I still can't connect. It still gives me Error Code 67.

I've tried connecting to the Vision service from Internet Explorer and THEN trying to connect with Internet Sharing using Phone As Modem and no luck. This method works with Internet Sharing using Sprint PCS. So am I doing something wrong here? I also have the $15 Power Vision plan.

Thank you Electro Rice ;)
 

It took me 10 min to figure it out after i got sprint to give me my msl.

I finally figured out that i should go to connections under settings.

click on manage existing conn, and select phone as modem and just exit.

I had to reset my phone a few times for the tethering to work.

I knew i was on the right track when i finally clicked on internet explorer on my pda and it finally connected online. If your phone will not get online here then something is wrong. Maybe try softbooting.

click on internet sharing next, check phone as modem, click connect before you plug in the usb. Plug in the usb and in 30 or so seconds you should be online.

PS you do not have to disable active sync.

electrorice yoo soo rule.

Just a fyi from a newbie to other newbies.

doesnt work for me
gives me errors and would not connect even with my pocket IE after i try the internet sharing

help please...
i did everything step by step

I may not be correct on this, but as far as I understand it Mobile IP Only vs. Mobile IP Preferred doesn't really have much to do if you are allowed to tether.

On CDMA 2000 you have the option of a Simple IP or a Mobile IP. A Simple IP is an IP that will not handoff between towers. A Mobile IP gives you a persistant IP that stays the same as you move between cell areas.

Mobile IP Preferred just means that it prefers to get a Mobile IP but will accept a Simple IP if it can't get one (so I can see how this fixed the data problem of the original poster). I can't see how this option will prevent Sprint from billing you for PAM if they want to (but I don't know what the registry settings might affect).

i dunno what the need is to hide the modem. i use my 6800 as a modem all the time, downloading files surfing the web and even playing wow for hrs on the go, i've never done a reg hack to hide tethering and i've never been billed for it same goes for when i on my 6700... and all i have is the sero plan.... dunno so this all kinda seems pointless to me

The concern here is 6700 was not PAM support device and Sprint reportedly has no way to know whether you are tethering (which you shouldn't do under terms and conditions unless you have paid for PAM plan) or using data on your phone. On the other hand, 6800 is PAM aware device and Sprint can charge you if they have evidence that you are tethering. I think people here are discussing two different things. One is how to use 6800 for tethering without getting caught, and the other is how to tether using PAM rather than Sprint PCS connection since PAM seems to provide faster connection. For me, I'm more intereseted in the first issue since the speed is already acceptable for occasional emailing and web surfing on my latop, but certainly I don't like to be charged huge $$ for tethering.

heelp
 

I was using my mogul tethered for 2 days. As per electrorice's methods.

Today i woke up grabbed my phone and every time i try to access the internet on my phone, It dials #777 and i get a 67 error.

I have softbooted 10+ times, checked my config settings which are correct, and each time i get 67 data error.

im going to go home tonight and change back my msl back from mobile ip preferred to the mobile only.

If that does not work i will have to hard reset my phone.

any suggestions?

i dunno why you would get error 67 again. i've been using it ever since the first time i changed it and I've had no issues. You don't have to hard reset the phone, just re-provision the data services. Go back into EPST using your MSL code and go to menu, then Reset to reset your data profile. it'll have you reset the phone when it's done. once you've finished loading back up, try to connect to the internet, at which point sprint will provision data services again and you should be on with no issues.

Is the Mobile IP change required to do this change?

it is a possibility.. i'm not for sure. the only reason i recommended it was after i changed the Mobile IP setting, I was able to dial-up/tether using PAM without an error.

afternoon
 

in regards to electrorice, sprint had me re-provision the data services. with the MSL code in the menu, and reset.

The phone came back up fine, but i was still getting the 67 error.


He tried re-provisioning it on his end but kept on comming up with errors.

Now it works but had to hard reset / reset the data services / re-provision.

I was at my witts end before i deciced to call sprint.

Atleast the tech was kool and knowledgable.

thanks for the replies yall..

sorry. dunno what happened with you. mine works fine. haven't had a single issue.

it goes without saying that anything you try on these forums are really at your own risk..

sorry i couldn't help ya

tried it again
 

did not change my settings to preferred but changed my nai to zero. only that one.


teathered as sprint, not as a modem.

connected great after i first initiated ie on the pda.

I disconnected my pda to answer a call.

I closed the ie and tether program all the way.

re-started ie and clicked on connect.

connected my usb and it got online just fine.

I was able to surf for about 30 seconds and my phone would say "data stopped by remote user".

I tried this a few times each time it seems like my pc is kicking my phone, or is it sprint?

i soft reset my phone and my computer with no better luck.

anybody else having this issue?

Should i change the other setting in the reg to "0" as well?

hmm

thx again.

at own risk
 

I dont mind bunging up my phone in the name of tweaking, as long as i dont brick it that is

thx

Hmmm...I had a similar problem as well (in regards to sprintrjm).

I did all the tweaks and what not and it worked perfectly fine, tethered without a problem etc.. Yesterday at work I was browsing on my phone as usual, and I needed to bypass the network to download something so I plugged in my phone, attempted to tether and got the dreaded 67 error code. Then it worked. Weird, right?

Next day, same thing, but I get error message after message. Restored the data settings; nothing. After 2 hours on the phone with Sprint I sadly had to hard reset my phone and now it works perfectly again. I'm a little reluctant to try the tweak again simply because I do not feel like going through everything again if it bricks on me. I had the tweak done for a week so I have a hard time fathoming that it was the problem, but I can't see anything else being the culprit. The consensus seems like this works great...is there a possibility I just screwed it up? I would love to have this working, but would hate to have to hard reset my phone again.

Also, I asked the tech and he said it wasn't a black-listing or anything, so I'm not so sure that Sprint really detected anything on their end. maybe it was just a reg. problem, who knows? I just don't want this happening to anyone else; it really sucks.

JohnnyOnTheSpot,

I have the same problem you did, I made the above changes, and everything seems to work, the next day however the 6800 would not want to connect to the net, I was getting the Error 67, what I did to fix it was to launch the Internet Sharping APP, and had it try to connect and after I exited the APP my unit connected normally.

I have a felling it is some sort of internal profile that did not get switched back after using the Internet Sharping APP the previous day.

Hmm, that makes a ton of sense. I'm still going to hold out until this is completely confirmed as a fix just because I hate restoring everything on my phone, but that definately makes sense. Thanks a lot man, and hopefully this is it.

whew
 

i thought i was the only one with this problem and that i was going craaazy..

thx for the feed back

I have a serious doubt that using PAM over Sprint PCS doesn't make a difference either. When you check the settings in 'connections' - 'manage my current connections', they both have the same settings. To verify this, I just did speed test with both of them. Sprint PCS was 485/128 using PA speakeasy. PAM was 444/112 using speakeasy and 470/128 using San Fran (speakeasy in PA was showing high load at the time...)

Just a thought. I might try some more to see what happens. BTW, I'm on a 6800, have tethered for a month now via ICS, performed no PAM egistry hacks nor ## functions, and I haven't seen a single charge on my bill.

For speed comparisons, I'm in Sunnyvale, CA 94089. DEUCE

ICS, eh? I've never heard of it but it seems worth a shot. Is there a link for this anywhere?

Pretty sure he just means the Intenet Sharing program built in.

Unless something has changed in the last year and a half the only way sprint can tell you're doing PAM is based on your data usage. If you use over X ammount it will flag the system and they will start running audits to see habitual use and how much is used per session/time frame.