Stupid ram question

**hibby50** · #1 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 06:36 PM

my mogul... i love it with all my heart. i am not getting the pro and the only reason i would is for the 4 times more ram it has. So my question. This sounds silly to all you touch users but... it has 64 mb of ram but it only shows 45mb installed in the settings. so is there a way to fix this? thats 20 MBS MISSING I COULD HAVE LIKE 40 MBS ON BOOT WITH ALL MY STUFF GOING!

**jbearamus** · #2 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 07:21 PM

good question, i just barely noticed the same thing on mine. I don't know how we could fix that but it would be cool if someone knows

**schettj** · #3 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 07:35 PM

If you remove the OS, you'll see all the RAM.

It's being nice. It's not showing you 20MB that it uses for other things. Yes, that's right, it needs a full 40MB to boot up and paint the today screen. You at least get to keep the other 26mb (well, 22 after you add anything to the today screen, and 18MB once it fills all the buffers it uses in the OS.)

You can't have it back. It's not missing. It's just misunderstood.

jmurphy115 · #4 (**permalink**) 09-21-2008, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by schettj

If you remove the OS, you'll see all the RAM.

It's being nice. It's not showing you 20MB that it uses for other things. Yes, that's right, it needs a full 40MB to boot up and paint the today screen. You at least get to keep the other 26mb (well, 22 after you add anything to the today screen, and 18MB once it fills all the buffers it uses in the OS.)

You can't have it back. It's not missing. It's just misunderstood.

Would using a kitchenROM give you more MB in the RAM? If so, any you have tried or suggest??

**jbearamus** · #5 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 07:36 PM

ah ha! just like how windows lies to you and says you have 950 MB of ram when you really have 1024

**weedahoe** · #6 (**permalink**) 09-18-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jbearamus

ah ha! just like how windows lies to you and says you have 950 MB of ram when you really have 1024

Exactly, it is reserved for system operations. This has always been a thing with anything MS touches.

**Adrianh85** · #7 (**permalink**) 09-22-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jbearamus

ah ha! just like how windows lies to you and says you have 950 MB of ram when you really have 1024

windows isnt lying its just that u have a on board video controller. and the mother board gets its memory that it needs before windows can regitor it.
if you used a after-market graphic card u wouldnt have that problem( but it still might be like .01 mb of ur memory not regitored)

microfirmz1 · #8 (**permalink**) 09-22-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by adrianh85

windows isnt lying its just that u have a on board video controller. and the mother board gets its memory that it needs before windows can regitor it.
if you used a after-market graphic card u wouldnt have that problem( but it still might be like .01 mb of ur memory not regitored)

Yes and No... If you notice, in 64bit systems this is not an issue. The reason for this is that a 32bit system can only address 4GB of memory. Devices lice Graphics cards need graphics memory (so here you are correct, onboard video will use the RAM for its graphics memory). However, if you have 4GB installed on a 32bit system, it will not show the full 4GB even if you are using an external (after-market) card as the ram on the graphics card needs to be addressed and will cut in to the system ram's address space.

So say you have a system with 4GB RAM and 3 quad-monitor video cards each 512MB RAM. If you are running on a 32bit system, you will only see 2.5GB in the system.

Cheers

**hibby50** · #9 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 07:38 PM

damn well thanks for the info schettj

**rdd0512** · #10 (**permalink**) 09-21-2008, 05:03 AM

look for no2chems roms, they free up the most from what ive read