GPS installation - WHY is it so difficult?

peepeesea · #1 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 06:50 PM

ok i have been going back an forth between this forum a xda-developers in multiple threads trying to figure out how to get GPS installed on my Sprint Mogul. i can not believe how ridiculously hard it is just to have a gps app installed and running properly. how is the average joe suppose to utilize this feature? i fancy my self as being tech savy, resourceful and patient BUT this is testing my limits... anyway i have iGuidance and the astrolauncher on my 6.1 wm rom build with kitchen. i also downloaded gps viewer. i think i still need gps gate but i am at my wits end with this crap. i just want it to work! i haven't been able to ope iguidance yet because im missing maps and iguidance launcher gives me an error about not being signed. i was informed that this is because i am missing the .net stuff but i have installed the latest version of .net but i still get the error.

i want to know if someone is willing to walk me through (in plain english) how to get this crap working?
every thread i find goes on and on about stuff but never explains it well enough for an average person (me) to understand what and why im doing what im doing.

this is a lot to ask to receive nothing in return but maybe some one out there was in my shoes and is willing to shoot a bullet list of steps.. i dunno

please don't link me to the GPS threads, i have read them all and everyone i read i become more confused and frustrated.

neodorian · #2 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 06:52 PM

Um...I'm not sure why it's been hard. You flash the latest Sprint ROM, install Google Maps or Live Search. Tell it to use GPS and there ya go.

peepeesea · #3 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 06:59 PM

yea awesome! i'm using i guidance but thanks anyway

**clockcycle** · #4 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by peepeesea

yea awesome! i'm using i guidance but thanks anyway

As mentioned in a previous post on your thread here. Did you install a "full" copy of iguidance, or just the launcher in the kitchen?

That's the first step, if you don't have a full copy installed, it's not gonna run, since the kitchen only includes a "primer" for the GPS, not the full install.

The Kitchen only includes Google Maps and Windows Live Search. Which just work, no priming needed.

I've also gotten GPS Today and Garmin XT Mobile to work, without priming. Just installed it and ran it.

-CC

peepeesea · #5 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by clockcycle

As mentioned in a previous post on your thread here. Did you install a "full" copy of iguidance, or just the launcher in the kitchen?

That's the first step, if you don't have a full copy installed, it's not gonna run, since the kitchen only includes a "primer" for the GPS, not the full install.

The Kitchen only includes Google Maps and Windows Live Search. Which just work, no priming needed.

I've also gotten GPS Today and Garmin XT Mobile to work, without priming. Just installed it and ran it.

-CC

yes i have a full version of igudance installed, but it thinks i'm in southern cali but im actually in norcal, SF bayarea

i just reflashed and made sure i had the .net stuff, but i still get the error when i click the iguidance launcher...

Nickles · #6 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by peepeesea

yes i have a full version of igudance installed, but it thinks i'm in southern cali but im actually in norcal, SF bayarea

i just reflashed and made sure i had the .net stuff, but i still get the error when i click the iguidance launcher...

what is the version you have, and where is it installed..
it must be on the storage card, and it must be installed via ActiveSync, through your PC.. it's still not super clear to us that you even have this actual program..
the iguidance LAUNCHER program, will NOT launch iguidance. it's just a 'primer' app, to open your gps chip..

I will HAPPILY walk you through each and every step..
you need iGuidance 4.0.. full version.. you need it on your computer. you then need to install it from your computer, via active sync..

can you confirm this is what you have done so far.. this is step 1.. forget about the 'launchers' and gps gate etc... for right now..
first thing is the actual program installation, and it's not real clear that we have that bit ironed out yet........

anticipating your answer of a complete and proper installation of the actual iGuidance program (since you do mention above it thinks your in NoCal)..
Next is 'Holux GPS Viewer', this is the pimer apps that will open your GPS chip..
do you have it installed.. forget the Astro GPS Launcher, or any form of it.. Holux is the easiest and most foolproof.
You can download the holux program right http://www.hevis.com.hk/download/GpsViewer1.5.zip

install that from your PC, through Active Sync, to your device..
then run it.. in the setup screen, change the port to COM4.. then press the 'Open GPS' button.. after a short bit, you will get a lock (the Sat Bars will turn blue)..
THEN, open the iGuidance program.. NOT an iGuidance launcher.. the program iguidance itself..
configure the setting in iGuidance to look for COM4 for it's GPS feed.. you THEN should have your current location displayed on screen.. and iGuidance will be working..

do all this first, to make sure everything to this point is working as it should, THEN we'll talk about GPS Gate, which is what you need for iGuidance to continue to re-map your location when your on the move..

aznd000d · #7 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 08:06 PM

This is how I do it, but I use GPSgate though.
I'd run GPSgate to let it sit on the tray.
Then launch google maps to get a fix (somehow google maps can get a fix within 2 seconds cold or hot). then exit google maps. but before you exit google maps, make sure that GPSgate icon on the tray is green.
Then I run iguidance.
Done

lafester · #8 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 09:45 PM

garmin runs without priming... hard to beat for ease of use.

if i were trying to run a gps program that needed priming i would use baf gps toggle.
runs from today screen and primes gps FAST.

good luck.

a2k · #9 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by lafester

garmin runs without priming... hard to beat for ease of use.

if i were trying to run a gps program that needed priming i would use baf gps toggle.
runs from today screen and primes gps FAST.

good luck.

I second this, Garmin by far is the best app.

1. Flash to Sprint's latest official ROM.
2. Install Garming Mobile and launch!

-Good luck.

Nickles · #10 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by peepeesea

anyway i have iGuidance and the astrolauncher on my 6.1 wm rom build with kitchen. i also downloaded gps viewer. i think i still need gps gate but i am at my wits end with this crap. i just want it to work! i haven't been able to ope iguidance yet because im missing maps and iguidance launcher gives me an error about not being signed. i was informed that this is because i am missing the .net stuff but i have installed the latest version of .net but i still get the error.
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ok. so do you have an actual fulll install,with maps, of iGuidance on your storage card? (it must be installed via active sync from your PC)
and you are getting the 'not signed' error ?
my advice is to uninstall iGuidance, then re-install it. especially if you've installed .NET after your first attempt.
if still no go, then re-flash in the kitchen making sure you cook in .NET from the start.
i think thats part of the frustration.. once we get past this part and you a nice proper flash, the rest is cake.

yes, you need GPSgate if you want to use iguidance. you also need Mortscript and the custom launcher Talyn built.. sounds crazy but dont sweat it. we can get you there, then you'll look back and laugh.
post back whats up, as well as the version of iguidance you have?