Rev. A Upgrade News

[wood]

I don't know if this question has been asked before, but why would sprint not have their newest phone capable of utilizing the rev. A network? Also while I am at it, why wouldn't it allow gps out of the box either? I know there may be a lot of speculation and badmouthing of sprint so please just good answers.

It just baffles me that they would not have these 2 great features working right out of the box. Were they just in a rush to release this phone? Did they feel compelled to release this phone in order to attract new customers without having good features ready? To me it seems like they rushed to get a jump on the market. I feel bad for the consumers out there that have no clue about upgrading their phone, flashing, etc.

-Ryan

[TC1]

Originally Posted by wood

I don't know if this question has been asked before, but why would sprint not have their newest phone capable of utilizing the rev. A network? Also while I am at it, why wouldn't it allow gps out of the box either? I know there may be a lot of speculation and badmouthing of sprint so please just good answers.

It just baffles me that they would not have these 2 great features working right out of the box. Were they just in a rush to release this phone? Did they feel compelled to release this phone in order to attract new customers without having good features ready? To me it seems like they rushed to get a jump on the market. I feel bad for the consumers out there that have no clue about upgrading their phone, flashing, etc.

-Ryan

That's a very legitimate question. From the info I've gathered, EVDO Rev A support has nothing to do with Sprint or HTC.... it's Microsoft's fault. In other words, Sprint's infrastructure is capable of Rev A, HTC's hardware (the Titan) is capable, but WM6 does not support Rev A yet. That's why the rumors abound that Rev A will be ready around Q1 2008 because that is also the rumored time period that Microsoft themselves will release a service pack or new revision of WM6.

So as bad as Sprint is, this one might not be their fault. But everything else is, lol.

[Pibe38]

That would make perfect sense given that there are laptop cards that work with Rev. A and the cards themselves don't use an OS.

I hadn't thought of it that way. Good post TC1.

[michaelj1981]

Ya I Know Its True Cuz People On Ppcgeeks Told Me

[UTSAFTW]

Originally Posted by argov

Requested Data Rate, I don't remember this number as high before the update but, as I said above, speed actually are slower in the past 2 weeks.

Well, as you said, it is the Requested Data Rate and not actual throughput. I just took a look at my RDR while grabbing a 3MB file via PIE and I maxed out at ~614 kbps on my RDR. I am currently in the one of the "student computer areas" of my campus (UTSA) and my Rx Power is fairly sensitive on campus and jumps from -78 dbm up to -89 dbm in this area (and that is decent for being on campus). I have noticed a higher RDR in the past whenever I have been in an area with a stable signal and overall stronger reception (e.g. - my apartment).

From this and my previous experience, I have a few plausible conclusions.
1. The more stable a connection (not fluctuating as much) and better the reception, the higher the RDR. A good example of this would be with Wi-Fi. If you are fairly close to a 802.11G access point that you are using and have a 802.11G card in a laptop that you using, you may see that you are "connected at 54 Mbps". The further you go away and/or the more interference (and thus a less stable connection) there is, the slower your speed will be connected at (I forgot all of the fall back rates, but I think that is something around 54, 48, 36, 24, 18, 11, 5, 3, 2 and 1). Even though it may state that you are "connected at 54 Mbps", you can NEVER achieve that throughput in the real world due to overhead and general interference that causes dropped packets and other non-fun things. You may be able to transfer at max 20Mbps when "connected at 54 Mbps".

To sum it up: The "Requested Data Rate" is exactly that, the "Requested Data Rate" and signal strength and stability can make that RDR go slower than 2562.000 kbps to keep the connection from dropping.

2. Tons of users on the tower that you are currently using. Towers have only so much to share and are forced to allocate bandwidth as evenly as possible among all of the cell tower's users. Although on second thought, this may not be valid for the RDR value since the RDR value seems to be on the phone/client side of things.

3. A combination and 1 + 2.

And now to jump back onto Rev-A.

Originally Posted by TC1

That's a very legitimate question. From the info I've gathered, EVDO Rev A support has nothing to do with Sprint or HTC.... it's Microsoft's fault. In other words, Sprint's infrastructure is capable of Rev A, HTC's hardware (the Titan) is capable, but WM6 does not support Rev A yet. That's why the rumors abound that Rev A will be ready around Q1 2008 because that is also the rumored time period that Microsoft themselves will release a service pack or new revision of WM6.

So as bad as Sprint is, this one might not be their fault. But everything else is, lol.

Any links to external articles or info about this? I would find it to be an interesting read. Hopefully Rev. A does come to fruition for the 6800. In the meanwhile, I'll be content with my 6700.

Eeek! Time to run off to my Accounting Lab!

[SINNN]

TC1... is on my ignore list. But anyways.... I find it funny how reps lie. I was recently told that if I get a upload speed of 70 kbps and higher then I am on Rev.A garanteed. My upload averages around 110 to 145 kbps. But I am 100 % that's not rev.a cuz rev.a is suppose to give you 300 and up in upload speeds. But why would a top level Sprint rep say such a think. Are they lying on purpose to calm everyone down? Or are they really that ignorant?

BTW. TC1, your one of those Trolls from SU that keeps trying to get me kicked and banned. Sorry old man but it aint going to work.