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Old 03-19-2010, 11:36 AM
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Re: Rom with SPB Mobile Shell?

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Thats the way I run it. No sense. MS works fantastic on NRG's no sense roms. Very quick. It leaves more ram for other things as well since sense the big ram hog is no where on board. Try it.
As for cooking a rom with MS in, I've tried some with my tp2 from several months ago and thought that MS seemed to work alot better when installed seperatley as an app. But def without sense or tf3d. This has been my $.02
What is your startup memory running MS3 on titanium? Prior to unlocking, I always used MS over tf3d (even though it did lag a bit when I had several pages enabled).

I really like Sense 2.5 on NRG's 2354X roms, but I would consider going back to MS depending on the available memory.
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:04 PM
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Re: Rom with SPB Mobile Shell?

Timely discussion since I use MS as well.

Ive installed the ROM's w/Sense just so I have the option to use it. I assumed that simply disabling (ie select Date, Windows Default, etc. theme) means just that so no add'l resources other than device storage is in use. Is that not the case? Are their vestiges of Sense in use and wasting program memory after its disabled (other than the Menus)?
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:33 PM
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Re: Rom with SPB Mobile Shell?

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Timely discussion since I use MS as well.

Ive installed the ROM's w/Sense just so I have the option to use it. I assumed that simply disabling (ie select Date, Windows Default, etc. theme) means just that so no add'l resources other than device storage is in use. Is that not the case? Are their vestiges of Sense in use and wasting program memory after its disabled (other than the Menus)?
I'm no expert, but it has been my observation that by unticking sense in the startup menu and then soft resetting I see a big increase in available ram, so it would seem that you can have your cake and eat it to. I've just grown to dislike the issues associated with sense so I'd prefer it not occupying any space at all. IMHO mobile shell pounds sense into the ground for functionality and leaves your device with more ram.
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:39 PM
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Re: Rom with SPB Mobile Shell?

a spb rom would be sweet problem is not many peeps will lash out the expense on spb
i still have my first spb membership guess ill have to upgrade
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Re: Rom with SPB Mobile Shell?

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a spb rom would be sweet problem is not many peeps will lash out the expense on spb
i still have my first spb membership guess ill have to upgrade
oh well no worries
spb roms I've tried before on my tp2 always required you to ultimately purchase the app after the trial. I would think this would be the same thing as it would be illegal to give this away via a rom. AFAIK anyway. I'm no expert on the law.
EDIT: I misread your post I think. OOPPS!

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Old 03-19-2010, 06:34 PM
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Re: Rom with SPB Mobile Shell?

I just built my first Rom for my Vogue, on PPC Kitchen and added Mobile Shell , took about 30 Min, not bad for my first. PPC Kitchen seems to be outdated, nothing for Imagio. PPC Kitchen is very easy to use, go to PPCkitchen.org and follow the instructions, if you have a Vogue, Titan, Etc. I'm just wondering if there is other programs out there to cook with. With PPC Kitchen you pic the programs you want in your Rom
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:47 PM
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Re: Rom with SPB Mobile Shell?

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What is your startup memory running MS3 on titanium? Prior to unlocking, I always used MS over tf3d (even though it did lag a bit when I had several pages enabled).

I really like Sense 2.5 on NRG's 2354X roms, but I would consider going back to MS depending on the available memory.
On a fresh boot I have about 93mb free ram. I watch what I've got open and use the shell's taskman to cloase stuff as needed.

FWIW: just a personal observation. On my tp2 which is currently loaded with the oem verizon 6.1 rom(love it)I get 129mb on a fresh boot, uber speedy and with the tf3d option unticked. This using pocket plus not ms. I find ms uses about 8 to 10 mb to run.

From this I conclude that 6.5 uses more ram than 6.1 by about 35mb or so, just to exist.

Sense is great eye candy but imo thats it.
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