Evo 4g on Boost Mobile MMS problem

[daddymikey1975]

It's not possible LEGALLY.

There is nothing to "unlock".. It's a CDMA device unlike the GSM counterparts. The MEID is in the provider's library and thus allows them to use or not use it. This phone is not 'locked' to any provider. That's why it's possible to take one w/ a bad ESN and activate it on Cricket or MetroPCS.

Further, there is no "flashing to boost".. boost doesn't use proprietary software that would be available or compatible with the EVO so there is yet another misleading statement. Sprint phones (that are allowed on boost) just work on boost without any flashing or 'unlocking'. If the OP purchased this device this way or paid someone to do something to this device in order to make it happen, my bet is the seller did something illegal. For the record, I'd check the MEID on the sticker inside the phone, compare it to the MEID on the box AND compare it to the MEID that's coded in the software on the device. I'd bet $100 they don't ALL match.


Further, when you attempt to enter the EVO's MEID into the Boost system it returns an error "incompatible plan type" and the system allows the CSR to go no further. This happens whether you attempt to use Boost's Customer service or attempt to go through Sprint's "Back door"..

The OP must have gotten something done to the phone that's illegal for this to happen.

Please see this thread for reference. I am a moderator over there and I can tell you I delete at least 2 threads a week where people are claiming that they were able to get the EVO on Boost. It's not possible (legally).. absolutely not possible in any way, shape, or form.

IF you'd like your own proof, there are a TON of EVO's on flea-bay for sale. Get the MEID of any (or all) of them and attempt to get them migrated in, swapped in, or whatever approach you'd like to use.

I'll put my first born on the fact that it will not happen. Sprint does not allow it's MVNO's to use the MEID/ESN's from it's "exclusive" devices (Palm pre/pixe, hero, EVO, etc) ..

I hope this helps

--DM1975

[NY_TJ]

"It's not possible LEGALLY."
"The OP must have gotten something done to the phone that's illegal for this to happen."



Are you the forum police? Obviously people have been known to do things that are quite spurious to their phones....The OP in no way mentioned anything HE did that was illegal, but is merely looking for any information fellow device users may have.

*To all others* Watch what you say, this guy might "drop-a-dime" on you.

[daddymikey1975]

Originally Posted by NY_TJ

Are you the forum police? Obviously people have been known to do things that are quite spurious to their phones....The OP in no way mentioned anything HE did that was illegal, but is merely looking for any information fellow device users may have.

*To all others* Watch what you say, this guy might "drop-a-dime" on you.

No dime dropping at all. The point I was trying to make was his claim is not legally valid. Nothing more and nothing less.

Further, if HE was ill informed about how the device came to be activated on Boost HE should check into the legality of such activation.

Some people are easily taken advantage of.

[NY_TJ]

Originally Posted by daddymikey1975

No dime dropping at all. The point I was trying to make was his claim is not legally valid. Nothing more and nothing less.

Further, if HE was ill informed about how the device came to be activated on Boost HE should check into the legality of such activation.

Some people are easily taken advantage of.

The "drop-a-dime" was more tongue-in-cheek than anything.
The point I was making is this: If this OP has ever used a PPC, or at least browsed the forums either here or other well known smart phone sites, he SHOULD know the legality of what he is claiming.

If he in fact DOES have his EVO on boost, I say bravo! I am sure he is a big boy and knows that he risks having his service canceled, and he is throttling his device on boost. If that is what he is into - more power to him.

Legally valid or not he has a specific question he is looking for help on - and isn't that the entire point of sites like this?

[ricomilion]

Originally Posted by daddymikey1975

It's not possible LEGALLY.

There is nothing to "unlock".. It's a CDMA device unlike the GSM counterparts. The MEID is in the provider's library and thus allows them to use or not use it. This phone is not 'locked' to any provider. That's why it's possible to take one w/ a bad ESN and activate it on Cricket or MetroPCS.

Further, there is no "flashing to boost".. boost doesn't use proprietary software that would be available or compatible with the EVO so there is yet another misleading statement. Sprint phones (that are allowed on boost) just work on boost without any flashing or 'unlocking'. If the OP purchased this device this way or paid someone to do something to this device in order to make it happen, my bet is the seller did something illegal. For the record, I'd check the MEID on the sticker inside the phone, compare it to the MEID on the box AND compare it to the MEID that's coded in the software on the device. I'd bet $100 they don't ALL match.


Further, when you attempt to enter the EVO's MEID into the Boost system it returns an error "incompatible plan type" and the system allows the CSR to go no further. This happens whether you attempt to use Boost's Customer service or attempt to go through Sprint's "Back door"..

The OP must have gotten something done to the phone that's illegal for this to happen.

Please see this thread for reference. I am a moderator over there and I can tell you I delete at least 2 threads a week where people are claiming that they were able to get the EVO on Boost. It's not possible (legally).. absolutely not possible in any way, shape, or form.

IF you'd like your own proof, there are a TON of EVO's on flea-bay for sale. Get the MEID of any (or all) of them and attempt to get them migrated in, swapped in, or whatever approach you'd like to use.

I'll put my first born on the fact that it will not happen. Sprint does not allow it's MVNO's to use the MEID/ESN's from it's "exclusive" devices (Palm pre/pixe, hero, EVO, etc) ..

I hope this helps

--DM1975

Wen you buy a phone, it is your propriaty, you can do what ever you want with it and use the provider you want.

[m4zt3r]

Originally Posted by ricomilion

Wen you buy a phone, it is your propriaty, you can do what ever you want with it and use the provider you want.

Here is the LAW on the issue:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/us...9----000-.html

Title 18 Part 1 Chapter 47 Section 1029 states:

(a) Whoever—

(1) knowingly and with intent to defraud produces, uses, or traffics in one or more counterfeit access devices;

(2) knowingly and with intent to defraud traffics in or uses one or more unauthorized access devices during any one-year period, and by such conduct obtains anything of value aggregating $1,000 or more during that period;

(3) knowingly and with intent to defraud possesses fifteen or more devices which are counterfeit or unauthorized access devices;

(4) knowingly, and with intent to defraud, produces, traffics in, has control or custody of, or possesses device-making equipment;

(5) knowingly and with intent to defraud effects transactions, with 1 or more access devices issued to another person or persons, to receive payment or any other thing of value during any 1-year period the aggregate value of which is equal to or greater than $1,000;

(6) without the authorization of the issuer of the access device, knowingly and with intent to defraud solicits a person for the purpose of—
(A) offering an access device; or
(B) selling information regarding or an application to obtain an access device;

(7) knowingly and with intent to defraud uses, produces, traffics in, has control or custody of, or possesses a telecommunications instrument that has been modified or altered to obtain unauthorized use of telecommunications services;

( knowingly and with intent to defraud uses, produces, traffics in, has control or custody of, or possesses a scanning receiver;

(9) knowingly uses, produces, traffics in, has control or custody of, or possesses hardware or software, knowing it has been configured to insert or modify telecommunication identifying information associated with or contained in a telecommunications instrument so that such instrument may be used to obtain telecommunications service without authorization; or

(10) without the authorization of the credit card system member or its agent, knowingly and with intent to defraud causes or arranges for another person to present to the member or its agent, for payment, 1 or more evidences or records of transactions made by an access device;

I would submit that activating the EVO on boost is "unauthorized" use because Sprint and Boost say so...

Obviously this is the debate on the legality of cloning, which most will call illegal.

This thread will be locked soon I bet....

[daddymikey1975]

Originally Posted by ricomilion

Wen you buy a phone, it is your propriaty, you can do what ever you want with it and use the provider you want.

While I don't disagree with your claim, if you were to read most of the paperwork that comes with a device, there are (sometimes) stipulations that reverse engineering or altering the software that's on the device is illegal since you do not own the software, merely, you're granted a license to use it and therefore you have no legal authority to alter the software. (not to start another debate, just pointing out the obvious again).. This is why George Hot was in so much hot water after jailbreaking the iPhone.

I suggest you read up on the laws and legal aspects of modding your device. IMO modding our devices (software) consists of flashing new ROMs etc.. this is not intended to defraud one carrier (boost) while appearing on their system as being a device that it's not. That clearly is against the law.

Originally Posted by m4zt3r

Here is the LAW on the issue:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/us...9----000-.html

Title 18 Part 1 Chapter 47 Section 1029 states:



I would submit that activating the EVO on boost is "unauthorized" use because Sprint and Boost say so...

Obviously this is the debate on the legality of cloning, which most will call illegal.

This thread will be locked soon I bet....

Personally, I don't much care for the debate aspect. MY intention was to bust out the OP and point out that there's no legal way to activate the EVO on Boost. I offered a specific reference for proof. Same goes for the Moment. It's a Sprint exclusive phone and not compatible (per their system) on Boost. Sure you could probably hack up the soon to be released iPhone CDMA for VZW and get it to work on Boost, but that alone would not make a person worthy of respect IMO.

I'm just pointing out facts that should be obvious to some and not so obvious to others.

@ m4zt3r... Thanks for sharing that tidbit of info. It further validates my assertion.

As a side note, I'm not going to contribute to the discussion any further. I certainly don't want the mods to have to issue warnings/bans for an illegal discussion. I just wanted to point out that there's no legal way the OP could have put the EVO on boost.