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Old 05-13-2010, 05:45 PM
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Re: official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

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Just pre ordered my Evo at BB and I was the 5th person of the day. I'll def get one day one!
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:49 PM
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Re: official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

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Even if it said that, it means the same thing. If you are accessing your own home network via WiFi, then your own home network WiFi router also has access to your Evo via WiFi.

Communication has to be 2 way in order for it to work.

Evo to home router: I want to see this website.
Home router to Evo: Here it is.

Not much different from
Router to Evo: I want to see this website.
Evo to router: Here it is.

eh... not really... the difference here is that the phone, like many phones now, have a wifi antenna, which allows to connect to wifi signals, and then access that network for data reception (instead of the phones cellular data signal)

that is wifi

then you have mobile hotspotting...which is what clearwire currently has, who sprint is working with....

this is allowing you to take your phones cellular data signal and allow other devices with wifi antennas to access the stream.... transferring cellular data signal, through the phone, making your phone act as a router, and then picking up this signal on another device, to have broadband connectivity speeds

you can clearly see there are two very different things going on here

if you connect 8 laptops to your phone's hotspot, all accessing 4G data... its going to be a lot of data transferring through

thus, sprint is charging $29.99 per month to activate this feature... THIS feature

they will not ask you to pay 29.99 to connect to your home's wireless router and enjoy quicker speeds, it has no relation to sprint's data streams...in fact, it takes strain off of their network

these are two different types of wifi, and it will be easy to block your phone from acting as a wifi hotspot, while still being able to access your local starbuck's wifi signal


plus in your example, what does it matter if your router has access to your phone's wifi? your router is not going to use the cell signal to process data...it is strictly for hotspotting..where your device is working as a transmitter....



TL;DR in wifi use, the phone is a receiver of data only, using broadband wifi signals the same way your laptop would in order to stream data to the laptop / phone...in hot spot use, the phone is a transmitter and receiver of data, acting as a router itself, but instead of the router receiving signal through fiber optic or cable lines, it is receiving it through the 4G sprint towers

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Old 05-13-2010, 05:55 PM
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Re: official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

im so confused right now. Something tells me they're aiming straight for my wallet in the long run
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Re: official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

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well touche... i dont know... i cant believe they would make it mandatory to charge 29.99 for the sole purpose to use wifi from your own network on the machine.

the way i read it:

"sprint mobile hotspot add-on required to access [htc evo 4g's] wifi on [a separate] device"
That's the way I believe it's meant to be read. Makes no sense that they would cripple WiFi, or have it even be possible to cripple WiFi, if you didn't have the 30$ addon.
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Re: official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

What makes the $30 addon more dumb is clearwire offers for 40$ a month wireless....I mean it is quite silly...
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:03 PM
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Re: official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

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im so confused right now. Something tells me they're aiming straight for my wallet in the long run
nothing to be confused about

$69.99 + tax/fees for your service

$29.99 addon fee for mobile hotspotting to use 4G from the phone to let other devices use it as a router - "wifi anywhere"

possibility of an extra $10 charge, might be for 4G connectivity, might be for something else... this is the only unknown


so youre looking at $69.99... plus maybe $10.... plus $29.99 if you want hotspot


possible plans:

1 - $69.99 with nothing

2. $79.99 with the $10 evo surcharge (unconfirmed)

3. $109.99 with the $10 evo surcharge (unconfirmed) and $29.99 mobile hotspotting

4. $99.99 with the $29.99 mobile hotspotting
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Re: official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

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What makes the $30 addon more dumb is clearwire offers for 40$ a month wireless....I mean it is quite silly...
while i agree, and would love free hotspotting... it is pretty much the clearwire service on the phone....and its cheaper by $10...so there really shouldn't be any complaints

i only need 1 device - my laptop, to tether...so i will wait to root
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Re: official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

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Just pre ordered my Evo at BB and I was the 5th person of the day. I'll def get one day one!
to get on the waiting list all you did was call or you had to physically go down there?

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It's the fine print at the bottom of www.sprint.com/evo and if it was a misprint, then they would have addressed it by now.
salty you have to realize thats a mis print. One the wifi add on is optional, there is no way for sprint to block wifi accessing your home network or any open network. Imagine if you bought the phone full price and didn't activate it, you can still access the internet through wifi. What your saying is without paying $30 you will not be able to turn the wifi on, you have to realize this doesn't make any sense.
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Re: official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

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What makes the $30 addon more dumb is clearwire offers for 40$ a month wireless....I mean it is quite silly...
after froyo introducing the wifi app natively, its going to be forever before sprint and htc have a froyo rom ready for release
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Re: official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

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to get on the waiting list all you did was call or you had to physically go down there?



salty you have to realize thats a mis print. One the wifi add on is optional, there is no way for sprint to block wifi accessing your home network or any open network. Imagine if you bought the phone full price and didn't activate it, you can still access the internet through wifi. What your saying is without paying $30 you will not be able to turn the wifi on, you have to realize this doesn't make any sense.
100% , agree ... agree agree agree agree agree agree


but to answer your question - you have to go there to the store.... you fill out a form to guarantee your pre-order, you pay $50 on your card or whatever...and they give you a physical $50 gift card to bring on release day to claim it, plus that $50 goes back into the purchase price .... so you'll only owe $150 on the 4th
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