Cube for VGA devices? If not what's the quickest way to make a phone call? - Page 2

**stevedog1** · #11 (**permalink**) 01-02-2009, 10:09 PM

I dumped TF3D and am using the old HTC Home screen (VGA Version) from the Touch. It has the contacts tab (9 caller) which makes life so much easier, and dont miss TF3D a bit. It also has all the other tabs you were used to....sms, email, weather, favorite apps, and ring/vibrate.

Edit: Here it is, and make sure you deactivate TF3D in the Today Screen Items, before trying to use this.

You can also find discussions on this here:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=49604

Good Luck!

JQuill · #12 (**permalink**) 01-03-2009, 01:31 AM

THE Quickest way to make a phone call is with a bluetooth and voice command, we all know this. TF3D Saves time all around and you all know if you had a million dollar budget you'd make something just as sick, if you wouldn't...well thats why you don't have a million dollar budget. Wanting to customize your phone is one thing, but I just see a lot of nit picky things people hate on TF3D for simply because of the fact that TF3D took care of half the problems people had with WinMo and elminates the need for custom app launchers and gives a less cluttered alternative to the home screen, so now everyone still clinging to their app launchers for dear life have nothing to talk about. OS apps like TF3D are what windows mobile phones will always be about from now on. Getting rid of TF3D would be like getting an iPhone and putting windows mobile 5 on it claiming that "today screen on windows mobile is just better dude, .5 seconds for a phone call.... .5! ", so good job wasting your upgrade and all that money on something you already had ..... "but the hardware is better" ... yeah so take advantage of it, if you don't use TF3D, you didn't need to upgrade, unless you have the pro because it is the first Sprint phone with Video out which is the only thing it has that the Diamond doesn't (other than obv. the keyboard). Thats just how I look at it.

**stevedog1** · #13 (**permalink**) 01-03-2009, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JQuill

THE Quickest way to make a phone call is with a bluetooth and voice command, we all know this. TF3D Saves time all around and you all know if you had a million dollar budget you'd make something just as sick, if you wouldn't...well thats why you don't have a million dollar budget. Wanting to customize your phone is one thing, but I just see a lot of nit picky things people hate on TF3D for simply because of the fact that TF3D took care of half the problems people had with WinMo and elminates the need for custom app launchers and gives a less cluttered alternative to the home screen, so now everyone still clinging to their app launchers for dear life have nothing to talk about. OS apps like TF3D are what windows mobile phones will always be about from now on. Getting rid of TF3D would be like getting an iPhone and putting windows mobile 5 on it claiming that "today screen on windows mobile is just better dude, .5 seconds for a phone call.... .5! ", so good job wasting your upgrade and all that money on something you already had ..... "but the hardware is better" ... yeah so take advantage of it, if you don't use TF3D, you didn't need to upgrade, unless you have the pro because it is the first Sprint phone with Video out which is the only thing it has that the Diamond doesn't (other than obv. the keyboard). Thats just how I look at it.

Im a Diamond user, and That has got to be the dumbest, most ill-knowledged comment I have ever heard. TF3D is not what the phone is "all" about, and there are several more diffences between the Pro, and Diamond other than Video Out, and Keyboard. Get a clue, and then comment. Please.

**indagroove** · #14 (**permalink**) 01-03-2009, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by stevedog1

Im a Diamond user, and That has got to be the dumbest, most ill-knowledged comment I have ever heard. TF3D is not what the phone is "all" about, and there are several more diffences between the Pro, and Diamond other than Video Out, and Keyboard. Get a clue, and then comment. Please.

Seriously!

JQuill · #15 (**permalink**) 01-03-2009, 12:22 PM

first of all, my comment is not dumb

.... secondly "knowledged" is not a word ..... thirdly, my first sentence, is indeed correct, Bluetooth headset with voice command is THE quickest way to make a phone call, which is what the original poster had asked about, because he was having software preference issues.

I didn't mean to say that there are NO more differences. Just that the differences, if you don't use TF3D, are minimal, and not worth upgrading to a new device for if you're not going to take full advantage of it. I like my phone to look like it is from this decade. Though it is a rough example, I still stick by iPhone scenario. Getting rid of TF3D is like getting an iPhone and then putting Windows Mobile on it and using today screen. The phone is MEANT for TF3D. If you don't use it, in my opinion, you honestly did not need to upgrade, the differences you see in performance when just using today screen are not worth using my upgrade and spending hundreds of dollars on, only reason I'm so adomate about it is because TF3D is why I bought my Diamond, if it didn't come bundled with TF3D, I would have gone with the pro for the video out if nothing else. I have a very european take on my phones, they should be able to do everything right out of the Box, it's not a car, it doesn't need a new body kit and rims to work right, you've just got to pick the right device for yourself before you buy it.

And in my humble opinion things like TF3D or something similar will ALWAYS come bundled with Windows Mobile phones from now on, provided that they have the hardware to handle it (Verizon...ugh). The HTC Touch Pro, Diamond, & HD are all proof of this new trend, as is the Sony Xperia X1, which has a similar to TF3D OS APP on it that takes control of Windows Mobile and give you more of an Apple Style "Spaces" type of feel as opposed to TF3D Style (just look up youtube demo's of the X1, I think it has a lot of potential, don't know why that phone isn't being showcased here). To sum it all up, at the very least ALL future HTC phones will come with TF3D, this means as far as HTC, Sony, and I'm sure many others are concerned today screen is a thing of the past...and stevedog1 I honestly don't have a problem with you, we just disagree on how we like our cell phones, you like classic plain flavored burgers, and I like freshly prepared sushi, there's nothing wrong with that. You're also a fellow New Englander, which means you're probably burried under as much snow as I am right now, so I guess I could use a nice warm burger.

**stevedog1** · #16 (**permalink**) 01-03-2009, 01:35 PM

Geez....Ill-Informed. You know what I meant

Ok. You assume in your response that the OP is gonna always be using a bluetooth headset. Not good to assume.

Then saying that Voice dialing with the bluetooth headset is faster than simply touching a contact picture is simply just not true. (Since you said it was the fastest way).

TF3D is just another Home Plug-In that has been made to look really nice. But for many it isn't convenient enough to use daily. Its a hassle and agrevating for many to scroll through everything just to get something executed, and "right out of the box" without a custom rom TF3D actually slows your phone down. I am one of MANY that do not feel the eye candy is worth the inconvenience.

Comparing a home plug-in to apple's proprietary's OS makes no sense.

Touch Pro has Camera Flash, Keyboard, thicker form factor (to some a plus), Video out, and not mentioning the micro SD slot is a huge omission. Many Touch Pro users bought simply because it is expandable.

PPCGeeker's and the like, buy the Diamond because of the great hardware specs, and small form factor. Not for TF3D.

Oh, and It stopped snowing a couple days ago thankfully

JQuill · #17 (**permalink**) 01-03-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stevedog1

Ok. You assume in your response that the OP is gonna always be using a bluetooth headset. Not good to assume.

Then saying that Voice dialing with the bluetooth headset is faster than simply touching a contact picture is simply just not true. (Since you said it was the fastest way).

Well since the user apparently has to go through Mordor and drop the ring into the lava pit just to touch a contact picture because TF3D is THAT inconvenient to him, I'd recomend voice command.

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Originally Posted by stevedog1

TF3D is just another Home Plug-In that has been made to look really nice. But for many it isn't convenient enough to use daily. Its a hassle and agrevating for many to scroll through everything just to get something executed, and "right out of the box" without a custom rom TF3D actually slows your phone down. I am one of MANY that do not feel the eye candy is worth the inconvenience.

Right out of the box on stock sprint rom TF3D runs like a dream even with 10 memory hogging applications open like Divx player, GPS, Google Maps, Sprint TV, Youtube...all at once.

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Originally Posted by stevedog1

Comparing a home plug-in to apple's proprietary's OS makes no sense.

TF3D is meant to be used as the phones primary OS. Thus making it directly comparable to iPhones proprietary OS. Like I said it is a rough example, but my point is, the iPhone is built for users to use its 3D proprietary OS, and so is the HTC Diamond.

It is indeed a "today plugin"....but by TITLE ONLY, HTC obviously intended it to be THE OS of the phone...proof...when you first get the phone everything else is disabled and TF3D is the only thing enabled, HTC wanted it to take over Windows Mobile completely, that was their goal from the very begining when they started designing TF3D, not to have it be "just another plugin"

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Originally Posted by stevedog1

Touch Pro has Camera Flash, Keyboard, thicker form factor (to some a plus), Video out, and not mentioning the micro SD slot is a huge omission. Many Touch Pro users bought simply because it is expandable.

Forgot about the camera flash, the keyboard I pointed out as an obvious one, and form factor i consider too obvious to mention. The SD slot was never a big deal for me because I stream all my music and videos from my own server. I like my phone to be TRULY mobile and try not to keep much stuff stored on it unless it's a full 2 hour movie...and the Diamond doesn't have video out so I wouldn't store huge movies on it anyway.

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Originally Posted by stevedog1

PPCGeeker's and the like, buy the Diamond because of the great hardware specs, and small form factor. Not for TF3D.

Again, if you're not using things like TF3D, you don't need the hardware.

**stevedog1** · #18 (**permalink**) 01-03-2009, 02:07 PM

Everything you just said is simply just your opinion on how you "think" everything is and should be used. Not fact.

/End Rant

To the OP, disable TF3D and try other home plug-in's and see if it is to your liking. If not, all you have to do is enable TF3D again.

Simple as that.

JQuill · #19 (**permalink**) 01-03-2009, 02:33 PM

1 - Voice command is the quickest way to make a phone call ..... fact, you touch one button and say somebody's name, shouldn't take any more than 1-2 seconds. If you claim shortening that time to half a second by using cube directly effects your productivity for the day, it is not THIS factor that is keeping you from being productive. It is the fact that you are stressing out over milliseconds....

2 - TF3D runs like a dream fresh out of the box on stock sprint rom.....fact

3 - The Diamond, right out of the box....TF3D is meant to be the first thing you see, use, and continue to use because it is enabled as the primary OS right out of the box...........TF3D was specifically DESIGNED FOR PHONES LIKE THE DIAMOND as the primary os, THIS IS NOT OPINION. Opinion is whether or not you like it, but this phone was designed around TF3D, and vice-versa.

If you're not using TF3D you don't need the hardware....indeed this is opinion, because obviously WinMo apps will run better in general.

And the preference of looks and an SD card slot is opinion.

But this is what I mean when people are just nit picking at TF3D....the first three things I said are absolute facts, and people pass them off as personal preference and justify themselves in not using TF3D because they don't like change.

pjsnyc · #20 (**permalink**) 01-03-2009, 02:45 PM

FYI - TF3D is not an OS...its a GUI that runs on top of WM (Thats what she said).

And I always found the fastest way to dial a contact is to hit the talk button to get to the dialer and type in the name via the number pad. It takes literally 2-3 seconds tops.

Edit - and unless you got a special diamond from sprint, there's no way it runs smoothly out of the box.