Internal Gps??? Anyone Able To Hack?!? - Page 3

miata_96 · #21 (**permalink**) 10-13-2007, 01:22 PM

I purchased a bluetooth gps and found google maps to be very easy to use.
google.com/gmm - you can download it from your phone and I have had no problems with the gps sync at all. Luv it.

Chris

Giovanni73 · #22 (**permalink**) 10-13-2007, 02:04 PM

I think for some a GPS BT module is the way to go. There are a certain group of us want to make the standalone mode of this gpsone chip work. Thanks to Sprint this function of the GPS chip has been disabled.

ls6tt · #23 (**permalink**) 10-13-2007, 06:35 PM

i dont think that is has been disabled, it is a separate kind of GPS chip all together.

saqer · #24 (**permalink**) 10-13-2007, 07:30 PM

ok, here's the lowdown everybody, and I hope this sort of provides closure on the matter. Everytime I see an update in this thread I pretty much end up getting excited over nothing.

From the qualcomm chipset specifications I saw that gpsOne can be used in "standalone mode" and so initially thought that the 6700 has a standalone GPS chip. That is actually incorrect. From my later understanding, the GPSone is just the mechanism to process the data received from the satellites, it is not actually capable of receiving any data from the satellites. Our 6700's lack the GPS component to recieve raw GPS data. There is basically no GPS antenna.

What everyone's been getting worked all up about is what is called Assisted-GPS. It has been established that unless Sprint makes changes on their side of the table, A-GPS is something we will never see on our 6700's, because it is essentially a service.

The 911 capabilities of A-GPS, are just that...911. There is nothing we can change in our phone's softare, nothing that can be hacked per se to generalize that use with other apps.

**guitardoc64** · #25 (**permalink**) 10-13-2007, 09:07 PM

I figured that. why would they put in a full GPS, only to disable it?

murmur · #26 (**permalink**) 11-10-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by saqer

From the qualcomm chipset specifications I saw that gpsOne can be used in "standalone mode" and so initially thought that the 6700 has a standalone GPS chip. That is actually incorrect. From my later understanding, the GPSone is just the mechanism to process the data received from the satellites, it is not actually capable of receiving any data from the satellites. Our 6700's lack the GPS component to recieve raw GPS data. There is basically no GPS antenna.

What everyone's been getting worked all up about is what is called Assisted-GPS. It has been established that unless Sprint makes changes on their side of the table, A-GPS is something we will never see on our 6700's, because it is essentially a service.

Where do statements like this come from? The same "GPSOne specifications" PDF you refer to shows a diagram that includes a GPS ANTENNA, and a GPS RECEIVER CHIP. The "standalone" mode description is clear that it is a positioning mode that doesn't rely on the CDMA network, unlike the other three modes. That means that it relies only on the GPS satellite constellation. It's not just a service. It's hardware in the phone that we haven't figured out how to use independently from the E911 service. Yet.