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Old 08-05-2007, 02:35 AM
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Create a new UPX'd ROM?

Out of all the rom builds here I have liked the clean and simple one someone(sorry I don't remember who) that was made.

My main issue was that these ROMs put everything in the main memory and I want the bulk of it that is not needed for GUI or startup reasons on memory card only.

Also wouldn't it save a lot of space if someone took the time to compress all the files in the WINDOWS folder? At least the ones that are safe to do.

I hope someone thinks this would be a worth while project and will speak up =)

I think RomMaster would be needed to extract the files and re-add the compressed files?
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:51 AM
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Re: Create a new UPX'd ROM?

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Out of all the rom builds here I have liked the clean and simple one someone(sorry I don't remember who) that was made.

My main issue was that these ROMs put everything in the main memory and I want the bulk of it that is not needed for GUI or startup reasons on memory card only.

Also wouldn't it save a lot of space if someone took the time to compress all the files in the WINDOWS folder? At least the ones that are safe to do.

I hope someone thinks this would be a worth while project and will speak up =)

I think RomMaster would be needed to extract the files and re-add the compressed files?
Programs that come with the ROMs do not take up main memory space (unless they copy files over outside \Windows). You aren't going to regain Storage Memory by removing those programs from the ROM and putting them on your Storage Card.

The stuff in the \Windows folder doesn't really need to be compressed because it isn't taking up your Storage Memory. You can UPX programs that you build into the ROM which might allow you to fit a little more on there (depending on what you're trying to UPX), but the downside is that those programs will use more Program Memory (aka RAM) as opposed to the non-UPX versions when they are run. I've tested this with a few programs and went back and used the non-UPXed version for most things unless it was an app I didn't really use that much and just needed a little space to squeeze it onto the ROM.

FYI, the "Clean and Simple" ROM actually had about 1 MB less Storage Memory after a hard reset than some of the "fullly loaded" ROMs because it included the Intent Java Manager which copies 1 MB of files outside \Windows.
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:27 AM
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Re: Create a new UPX'd ROM?

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The stuff in the \Windows folder doesn't really need to be compressed because it isn't taking up your Storage Memory.
I'm not sure about this b/c i have UPX'd /windows files that I put in post- flash and saved storage memory. so you must mean the stuff in \windows that came from the ROM apps, right?
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Yes of course anything and everything you do Post-Flash is done in storage memory. All of your personal data, installed apps, etc are placed in the storage memory partition, whereas everything in ROM is in a separate partition, even though they appear to be mixed together in the \Windows folder.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:47 PM
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Re: Create a new UPX'd ROM?

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The stuff in the \Windows folder doesn't really need to be compressed because it isn't taking up your Storage Memory.
I'm not sure about this b/c i have UPX'd /windows files that I put in post- flash and saved storage memory. so you must mean the stuff in \windows that came from the ROM apps, right?
Yes, sorry I wasn't very clear about that. I took the OP as referring to UPXing all the things in the \Windows prior to flashing so they would already be UPXed on the ROM. Like luv2chill said, you could UPX files in the \Windows folder that are put there post-flash (such as files put there when you install a program) and they would compress and use less Storage. I still try to avoid that now unless the programs aren't used a lot because everything I UPX seems to have use more Program Memory when run than its non-UPX version. For a program I only run occasionally the space savings are worth the Program Memory hit.
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:06 PM
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huh... I guess I had thought it actually used less space in Program Memory.

I actually had a lot more space extra space to manage when I used my asus a620 back in late 2003 or early 2004. I didn' think it partitioned in the same way and it always annoyed me that my data would be lost if not backed up once the battery went dead.

I don't guess you can repartition the ROM area lol?
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