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Oooh to dream! None of my employers have good deals on cingular service. I can't even come close to my Sprint plan on cingular. I would love to get a much better phone such as the x800 or the 6150. I still have a week or so before my sprint contract runs out.
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06-01-2007, 03:38 AM
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Glossman,
A few thoughts from someone with a foot in both camps right now (Cingular 3125 WM Smartphone + Sprint PPC-6700 with data plan only)... I would like to converge sometime soon on a single GSM device, and I have really had the hots for the E-Ten X800. But after seeing reports early on that it would have US 3G support, I am now troubled that pdabd is now showing no US 3G (the only UMTS band they are showing is 2100). So this is giving me pause for the moment - hope this info on pdadb is inaccurate! Another one I have been tracking is the Toshiba G900 - really liking that sick display and trick biometrics. But once again, seems that the US bands of interest have disappeared from pdadb (even GSM 850). Guess I'm gonna have to keep tracking these two until we see definitive specs... I have also been keeping a keen eye on the upcoming HTC Nike (don't know if you have checked that one out - if not, maybe worth a look on pdadb). Seems like HTC isn't too keen on higher res displays like some of the other players, but I think this one has some other intriguing specs and features (HSUPA... hmmm... Numeric keypad on WM6 Pro... hmmm). And of course, the HTC Kaiser is looking very interesting too, and the iMate Ultimates look great... But if you want a good solution that you can get your hands on today, I think that the HTC Trinity is still worth a look. You mentioned a lack of WM6 and GPS - but the Trinity community over at xda-developers is really robust, and they seem to have all kinds of great ROMs available with internal GPS enabled and/or WM6 and/or both. You might want to check out their forums for Trinity if you haven't already... I've come close to pulling the trigger on a Trinity a few times, but just don't have a pressing need to converge right now, so hanging tight for the moment... Thanks for your organizational efforts on the unified ROM!
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Quad band VGA Screen On-Board GPS Dual Cameras Anyway, I can't be unconverged while waiting for that phone to drop, so I got a sweet deal on a Glofiish M700. Spec-wise, it's an improvement on my old 6700 and it will give me a chance to test out Eten's hardware and quality. From what I've heard it does have a few bugs, so I might have to by Colonel one, just to get a good ROM!  If I wind up not liking this phone, I may take a second look at Trinity, or perhaps wait until the Imate Ultimate 7150 drops in a couple of months. As a side note, I really wanted the O2 Flame when I saw the specs, but it's only tri-band...no GSM 850. That's a real pity because the specs on that thing are sick!
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If you get a Trinity, just dont get a white one.
 My buddy had a black one that broke. He decided to buy a white one since it looked alright in pics. In person, though, it has the look of a pearl.
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I'm picking up my Glofiish M700 tomorrow. I'll give you an update once it's up and running. There's a WM6 ROM from the manufacturer that I will be installing, but I've heard that it has some nasty bugs. Stay tuned!
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Seems you have brought up the other conundrum that has helped to keep me from pulling the trigger on a Trinity... I totally agree with your aesthetic verdict here Colonel - I haven't seen this thing in person, but the pics I have seen of the "white" model are certainly not doing it for me. However, I have decided that if I get one, it will definitely be the "white" version. How so? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287713 Seems that the other option available (a sweet-looking black Trinity) has a nagging little paint peeling problem (at least in HTC's P3600 variant). I ask you all - how ridiculous is this??? I guess I'm just still in awe that HTC could miss something like this - I just don't see how they could have taken such a well specked device (that I think in all rights should have been seen as one of their flagships), and hork up all the available paint jobs so badly... (sigh)...
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Got my Glofiish M700...Impressions!
Well, the Glofiish M700 showed up on Saturday, and I've spent the last couple of days getting it setup (been busy with a new baby!).
The first thing you notice is how slim this thing is. Even with a slider, it is noticeably thinner than a 6700. It's slightly longer, too...About the length of a 6700 if you include it's antenna. Of course, the M700 has internal antennas. Build quality seems superior to our Apaches, and the plastics appear to be higher quality. Buttons are firm to the finger when pressed, and the slider moves firmly through it's travel and locks positively into place with a single click. I will be curious to see how tight this device is with some use, say, after 6 months. Out of the box, WM5 performance was very fast...at least as fast as the latest Unified ROM on an Apache. So, I did the OEM WM6 upgrade. It seemed to slow the device down quite a bit. I did the Apache registry hacks, and it seemed restore most of the performance. I did a restore from backup for my contacts and files and began re-installing my software. The only compatibility issue I ran into was with WeatherPanel, which keeps giving me a .dll error, even though the program itself works. Call sound quality is good, with both the handset speaker and the speakerphone having good volume. The former being a refreshing change when compared to the PPC-6700. So far, I've had no dropped calls and not much distortion in the time I've had to make calls. As for data, the device is hampered by Cingular (now AT&T) EDGE connectivity. It's every bit as slow as advertised ,with it taking 20-30 seconds to download a half-dozen <10 kb e-mails. Also, WM6 has a bug in which the data connection has to be manually reassigned to the cellular modem after each soft reset. Fortunately, the device has not required soft resets, so I can probably get by until a fix comes out for this. The on-board GPS is the FREAKING BOMB. It acquires quickly and seems to be very sensitive. The M700 includes a couple of GPS apps to give you coordinates and staellite locations, which, while not particularly useful, is neat to look at it. As soon as my microSD card shows up, I'll be testing it with TOMTOM. Battery seems very average. The phone comes standard with a 1530 mAH battery. With light data and no GPS, I got through Sunday with about 50% battery remaining. This was with the screen brightness at 3/4 of maximum. A neat feature of WM6 is an automatic backlight adjustment based on battery life. When selected, the device will automatically reduce the brightness of the screen as the battery drains so it's life can be extended. On the subject of the sceen, the clarity and brightness of the M700 is superb, putting our Apaches to shame. The colors are vibrant and the fonts are sharp. The M700 is truly a wonder to look at. Usability. This is the other place where I have some gripes. While M700 is nicely styled, it has some very real usability issues: While the D-pad is very functional and easy to use, the front of the device lacks the Windows and OK keys found on our Apaches. This makes one handed navigation without the screen VERY difficult. It does have the two softkeys, but I have not yet figued out how to reassign them. There is a Today Screen button at the upper right of the device, as well as a GPS button on the upper left. I will be reassiging those to the Windows functions that are missing, but they are still ill-placed for easy use. I have not yet tested Bluetooth capabilities yet, but I'll report back when I do. So, the verdict is, this is a quality device, but not without drawbacks. The weak data support is a real drawback, and I'm not how long I can live with that. Battery life can be addressed with an extended battery, but that ruins the slim profile of the unit. I suppose I can get used the the quirky button interface, but it does make me appreciate the 6700's simplicity. In the end, the lack of 3G data support will force me to move on to another device. The upcoming Glofiish X800 will be 3G-enabled and have the bonus of a VGA screen. It does lack the keybaord of the M700, but I think I can trade the keyboard for some good high-speed 3G data and VGA. Oh, and BTW..I do have the WM6 ROM file for the M700. If any of you would like it for tinkering, I'll gladly provide it. There are some real nice ETEN apps that could be packaged for future Apache ROM kitchens.
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Glossman - thanx for the review, very interesting! Given my interest in the X800, it is good to hear that E-ten seems to be making quality devices.
Oh, and welcome to the joys of EDGE data (my 3125 smartphone tops out at EDGE as well). Not only is the transfer speed so much slower than EVDO - I have also found that the latency is much worse as well... 
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