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Old 01-28-2007, 08:47 PM
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Thanks for all the comments

I actually get no DSOD because I place the neccesary programs in main memory. So I have setup my device with 10 programs loaded to main memory (like PB, Wisbar, Chessgenius, etc). Since I also have about 50 programs total, I have had to place several of the on the card. The programs that run from the card are usually programs that I use for a very brief period, like memmaid, livesearch, lispro, etc). For most of these programs stored on the card, I can exit from them before powering off the device.

So I guess schettj has more sense than me, because he doesn't run programs stored on the card and have the device suspend. Even his experiment showed that at least mortplayer, can tolerate a suspend and power on and still run.

What I would like to do, is run programs stored on the memory card, turn my device off for 1 minute or 5 hours, then get back to the program and have the program work correctly. The current problem is that if I run a program stored on the card, suspend the device, turn the device back on, then most of the time, the program will close down, losing its saved state completely. This doesn't cause DSOD, and I can always reload the program from the card, but I have lost my saved place.

The reason I find this annoying is that it seems like the device should avoid this problem. Chess programs must be run from main memory, because if you are playing a long game, and you get interrupted, you have to save your game (several clicks); otherwise, if the game is run from the card, after a poweron from suspend, the program will close and revert to the last saved space, thus losing my game. A chess program on main memory seems like a joke. Another problem is my skyscape programs, which take about 10 megs of space to run should have the data stored on a card. As a surgical resident, I will use the Surgical Oncology program to study; but since I am usually busy at work, if I leave the program running while I take care of work and it powers off, the program will shut down when I poweron. When the program shuts down in this manner, I lose my location in the program, taking another 10 or 20 seconds to find it. Taking 20 seconds 20 times an hour so I can study something is annoying, as you can imagine. My Treo 600 worked better in this regard. Also, if I save my PIE cache to the card, every once in a while I will get the problem that PIE will close right after I turn on the program. I can solve the problem by emptying the cache then starting PIE; incidentally, this problem happens only about twice a day with 3.3 and with 2.0 2.2 the problem happened almost every time I started PIE, making it necessary to store PIE files in main memory.

So while I have tried every possible thing mentioned on this site and pdaphonehome.com, perhaps I am asking the impossible. I should take schettj's advice and give up the idea that I should expect a functionally that my Treo 600 and my old old PPC2002 Ipaq had.

dprout: what happens when you accidentally leave one of those programs open (one of the programs stored on the card)? Do the programs close when you power on? Can you then open them? Do you lose your saved space? Am I being ridiculous?
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:53 PM
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So, I am trying to wrap up a second release of my rom. The way I am seeing things, the Sprint cab installs copies of .dlls that are already present in the rom. The SDMemory.dll that shows up in the Windows file explorer is there because of the Sprint cab and it is what is causing problems, correct? So, it is not really a rom issue but rather we should just not run the Sprint cab. Or, if people think the other dlls are important, I can simply remove the SDMemory from the Sprint cab. Thoughts?
Absolutely right--the problem stems from the old version of SDMemory installed from the extrom, not from anything in the rom itself. There is no fix you can offer (other than removing that .dll from the cab if you're going to provide an extrom for people). Otherwise, people just need to learn to not install that cab or to do the manual deletion if already installed in order to solve the disappearing SD issue.
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:33 PM
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My guess is, they are all NEWER in the rom, and you should not install any SPRINT extended rom "patches/updates" to any of the 3.3 OS files.
I'm going with this in mind and removing the Cab from my Extrom.

Now I have to worry what if any other Cabs may also be replacing newer 3.3 files with older Sprint "fix" files.. :/
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:37 PM
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Well I did this fix on Friday and I have not lost my storage card since!@!@!

I installed the 3.3 Rom the Friday before and I lost my storage card at least once a day so I think its safe to say that this has resolved my storage card issues. I was also having the same issue on the 2.2 rom because of this same problem.


Thank for the fix!
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:13 PM
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I read all of this, but know one realy says, once it disappears how do you get it back.. I don't know how to bring it back to show on my device(ppc6700) When I look in the memory under storage card it says "Not installed" but I do have the SD card in there
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:16 PM
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soft reset should bring it back temporarily. Did you delete the sdmemory.dll and then soft reset as instructed in this thread? That is the actual solution to the problem.
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I did a soft reset and still nothing, plus when i go into file explorer and i don't see sdmemory.dll, i do see in the total commander. I erase it in there but still nothing happen. After I did a soft reset the file came back.......
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:43 PM
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When you go into File Explorer, make sure you go to Menu and select View All Files. It should be there then.
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:49 PM
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Are you certain your card is OK? You might try popping it into a card reader on your PC or some other device to make sure the card is OK. If you have deleted the file using total commander (it is normal for it to appear again as that would be the correct version from the ROM) then I suspect there's something else wrong with your card or device.

A hard reset would be the true test. Maybe reinstall the old Sprint ROM just to make sure. Then if it's not seeing your card then you've got a hardware problem somewhere.
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I'm sorry maybe it's just my phone or something, because it is not in the file explorer only in the total commander
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