Apache WM6 Clean, No Junk Version

[robmayer]

Originally Posted by GameDoctor

I see WM6 development as a scene effort, with many people working with others previous accomplishments. Lets not let egos ruin what should be a joint effort.

Do we all really need to post a full disclaimer detailing every code fragment and list credits for every item like the credits at the end of a movie?

Robmayer is just trying to help the masses and keep the noobs off the backs of others.

My thanks go to EVERYONE helping out here and on other sites.

Originally Posted by Torx

first off, this couldve easily been handled via PM, email or in the irc chat.
IT IS BEING REVIEWED.

second, i think WE ALL know and agree that anything we flash or do with these phones is our liable fault..
It IS BEING REVIEWED.

third, have you not thought that maybe he wanted to take the flack if the bootloader fix didnt work?? If he had mentioned "the inside guys" as being the creators, and it ended up not working everyone in the world would be on you guys backs.. instead he lightly mentions a thanks to those who helped with the fix, and posted it up.. knowing if it didnt work people would be ringing on robs doorbell and not yours.. All im saying, is maybe he was looking out for you.
IT IS BEING REVIEWED.

forth, everyone needs to CALM the F*** down and work together to get this ball rolling forward.

I mean seriously, thats the beauty of these forums and you guys work... we have options. We got the stock helmi rom, we got an unofficial kitchen and we have a super stripped down rom.. I think its great people are eleborating on others projects in the mean time of a "finalized kitchen"

Originally Posted by daveedem

I agree.. I'm a noob when it comes to this forum. But I read with amazement some of the posts. I manage an entire group of developers from India plus some stateside, and I know what it means to take credit for something you didn't do. I also know that the written word isn't the same as us all sitting in a room together giving credit where credit is due. HOWEVER, in all of the posts I've seen from Robmayer, he was giving credit. Now granted I'm not privvy to the chat room chat, but he's apologized, posted it ... so let's all move on.

Isn't the purpose of all of this to make a good device better? I don't see any blatant "plagarism" here... what is see as a noob and an outside is some ego's getting in the way.

I wonder if Bill Gates gets his nose hairs all twisted with someone tries to make his products better.....

Let's all work together... hell if you read some of the posts, we're all violating MS licensing policy by doing ANYTHING to our devices.

let's get back to doing what we all do best... Helmi, Luv2chill, tiermann, colonel, robmayer, kirvin et al and the rest of the devs making our device better and we lowly noobs, using your tweaks.

I love you guys.. Come on -- come give me a big hug!!!!

Originally Posted by daveedem

Ok... I've installed RobMayer's ROM based on Helmi's original WM6 ROM.

I can attest to it working with bootloader v 1.00 and Vista with the Vista RUU workaround (googled and found on Modaco's site - dam another forum I just joined LOL).

The fact that it never hit the ExtROM customization was awesome - I was all poised to soft reset before it hit them.

I have about 40MB free after this ROM installed. It also seems to run pretty fast.

Only issue I experienced was that the hard reset didn't take at first... thing booted in and then I saw my iphone theme pop up... did another hardreset and it took. I think I fat fingered the 1st hard reset.

UGH.. now re-installing all my customizations.

Thanks RobMayer... and the rest of the dev guys here... my g/f asks me constantly why she can't reach me on my phone.. and I tell her "I'm flashing it again, with something cool from PPCGeeks"... she thinks I'm nuts.

Haha, you guys are awesome! Some of these posts definitely got right to the point and even with some added humor.

GameDoctor, I really appreciate you jumping on the boat! Much appreciated!

Torx, I knew you would be right here man. Well said bro!

Daveedem, wow... finally somebody gets it. The part about the MS licensing policy... you said it for me! That is the truest of things and everybody needs to realize that. Plus, if MS really cracked down... none of this would be going on, period.

Originally Posted by Herules

I am running the WM6 Clean, No Junk Version and my radio reads version 1.10.00. I would like to upgrade to the 1.43, what is the best way to go about doing so with this?

Thanks to all for your work, I am grateful!


**What have you gained if you obtain the whole world and all its riches yet loose your soul?

Well, before you start I will warn you that flashing the radio means "hard-reset" afterwards. Sooo... I have the radio packaged up in my downloads section here: http://6700development.googlepages.com/Downloads it should be near the bottom under the roms. Download it and flash it like a normal rom.

[jrs]

Originally Posted by daveedem

hell if you read some of the posts, we're all violating MS licensing policy by doing ANYTHING to our devices.

Boy did YOU hit the nail on the head!

[edufur]

hey. i think this version rocks... except one thing. has anyone else tried using FlexMail? I used it on the original helmi release and functionally, it worked fine but was slow. i tried it on this build and it responds much faster, but now it is functionally flakey. flexmail is supposed to be able to "take over" as default mail and SMS. it did do that, but now the phone periodically gives me the original default app or the flexmail app. sometimes, i get two indicators of a text message (one from each app). this never happened before. could you look into this strangeness?

[cjbreisch]

To get things back on track...

Originally Posted by cjbreisch

Just upgraded to v4. A couple thoughts.

First, so far, this may be the best ROM I've ever had on this device. Admittedly, I've only had it on for an hour, so I've not tested everything yet, but I love how clean it is.

Now the comments.
A) I like the fact that you didn't include SDHC support. I need it, but I've heard people with non-SDHC cards have had problems. I don't mind installing this piece myself. I have the .cab on my PC, so it's no issue installing it whenever I need it. This might be a good thing for your downloads section though.

B) Office 2007! Thanks!

C) Still appears to be HTC Home 1.5.x. I'm guessing that upgrade didn't go as well as you'd hoped. That's ok. I more than appreciate the effort.

D) There are contacts in my HTC Home dialer tab. Vision, Bryan, and Customer Support. Did I screw up and get those in there somehow, or are they in the ROM?

E) While I don't think the HTC Home Customizer should be in the ROM, could you add it to your download links, please? Thanks.

F) With v2, there was a "Documents" shortcut in my Start menu that opened up File Explorer to "My Documents" folder. That's gone and it doesn't appear that I can add it using the "Menus" setting. Is there a magic trick I can do to get that back?

G) I'm still having my issue with Pocket Controller, but I've narrowed it down a bit. It and ActiveSync appear to be fighting. It's trying to connect to the device before ActiveSync has completed its connection. I need to wait for ActiveSync to establish a connection before Pocket Controller takes over. I doubt you did anything with that, so I'm going to check to see if Pocket Controller has a support site. If not, I'll post something here. For now, I can set up Pocket Controller not to automatically start up, and I'm fine.

Ok, so that's 7 things. It probably sounds like I hate this ROM, but I don't. Other than my Pocket Controller issue, which I don't think is caused by your stuff, everything is teeny tiny.


A few weeks ago, I realized that my phone's almost 2 years old and that I can get an upgrade soon and I was a little nervous and excited about that. Now I have no reason to upgrade, and its thanks to the efforts of people like you and helmi.

I had to hard reset my device this morning. Several soft resets froze up on my Today screen. That's the first time I've ever had to do that. If it happens again, I will try to start looking for a pattern.

As for issue "F", it appears to me that the default File Explorer has changed in v4 from what it was in v2. The one in v2 was similar to Resco, but not quite (Resco was also installed, I think). The one in v4 appears to be the same thing I had in WM5. Or am I missing something?

[WT]

Originally Posted by WT

Well I installed the newest one for Verizon and since last night its was doing good but everytime I soft restart the phone it all seems good but after a second if I open any application it loads and functions fine but if I try to close the app it doesn't work and seesm to sit there in a locked state. The odd part here is that after about 3 minuites or so it performs the close for me and exists to the main screen. I did load 3 things so not sure if its a compatibility issue and if anyone else has had any problems like this.
Apps loaded:
XCPUScaler 2007
Pocket CM newest version
Spb Pocket Plus

I have it all set up the way I want but think maybe I should try to re-load it again. Any advise would be appricated.

Thanks

PS the Rom looks great so good work there....

Oh One last question anyone know a way to transfer contacts to there cars Bluetooth setup ? I searched but had no luck finding how to perform this function or if its just something that should happen on its own.

So any one with similar issues ? I starting to think it maybe pocket plus ..

[cjbreisch]

Originally Posted by cjbreisch

To get things back on track...

As for issue "F", it appears to me that the default File Explorer has changed in v4 from what it was in v2. The one in v2 was similar to Resco, but not quite (Resco was also installed, I think). The one in v4 appears to be the same thing I had in WM5. Or am I missing something?

I think it was GSFinder 1.99 cleverly disguised as File Explorer.

[daveedem]

Ok.... I'm now on V4.

I don't see the my documents on the start menu either. I tried messing around with the registry and the start menu and haven't had any luck yet, but I'm sure you can get it back on the menu from there. Although there may be a cleaner way to do it.

I was trying to stay away from WA2 and WAD (yah I'm a girl - I like the iphone theme) so I thought I'd try Grumps NoWAD iphone theme, but the damn thing kept locking up my device. While it's cool, and I like some of the icons, I like the interactive nature of Lazyboy's theme. So Grump -- props to you, I am gonna use some of your icons.

I'm going to try and get VSBeta 2008 and some emulators running today so I can try and get the iphone theme ported to WA3. That'll be interesting. If you have any experience with that --- let me know. I know you can't do ROM's with it, but apps should be a different story. I just don't want to HS my device trying stuff out.

CJB --- As for #G. I'm using PC 5.07 Build 966 --- thus far I've not had any lock up issues with it.

Did you use the VistaRUU workaround? I think I saw you were using Vista. I'm on a vista box and haven't had any issues connecting. HOWEVER, I have had some customers using one of our pps on various WM5 devices and both in XP and Vista there are some weird variances wth having to connect and disconnect the devices numerous times to get active sync to recognize the device. No AS recognize no PC working.

I also can't remember, but I know that I've seen a pop up with PC that indicates using an alternative method of connecting. Did you try that?

For D -- not sure that is in the ROM as I don't have those names i my HTC home. BUT... now that I think about it... I did sync right after without looking at it, so... nope.. scratch that thought... I don't have them as contacts on my PC.

WT -- I'd lean to PocketPlus. Try uninstalling that and see if you get any stability. While a great program, I've seen it use a fair amount of memory.

[robmayer]

Originally Posted by edufur

hey. i think this version rocks... except one thing. has anyone else tried using FlexMail? I used it on the original helmi release and functionally, it worked fine but was slow. i tried it on this build and it responds much faster, but now it is functionally flakey. flexmail is supposed to be able to "take over" as default mail and SMS. it did do that, but now the phone periodically gives me the original default app or the flexmail app. sometimes, i get two indicators of a text message (one from each app). this never happened before. could you look into this strangeness?

I will do my best to see what is going on. Of course, if anybody else wants to investigate, feel free and please post any results.

Originally Posted by cjbreisch

To get things back on track...




I had to hard reset my device this morning. Several soft resets froze up on my Today screen. That's the first time I've ever had to do that. If it happens again, I will try to start looking for a pattern.

As for issue "F", it appears to me that the default File Explorer has changed in v4 from what it was in v2. The one in v2 was similar to Resco, but not quite (Resco was also installed, I think). The one in v4 appears to be the same thing I had in WM5. Or am I missing something?

I am sorry about build 4 still having HTC Home 1.5. I really didn't have the time to fit that in. I will in time though. As far as the weird contacts... those are not in the ROM, you must have gotten those in there somehow. Yes, I will add link to the HTC Home Customizer. The Documents folder in the start menu was something I personally made and added in v.2 or 3... I purposely took it out because Build 4 is a complete stock version and that wasn't stock. If you guys want it, I will post it on my downloads page sometime today. I never really got around to looking at the Pocket Controller issue yet, i have been quite busy.
If your device continues to freeze unexpectedly, ect. Try running it without 3rd party apps for a while and see if that helps. Could be a conflict with another program.

Originally Posted by WT

So any one with similar issues ? I starting to think it maybe pocket plus ..

Possibly Pocket Plus, or another 3rd party app. Is it 100% WM6 ready? I would try removing it for a while and see if that solves it.

Originally Posted by cjbreisch

I think it was GSFinder 1.99 cleverly disguised as File Explorer.

Yep, the file explorer in Helmi's, and my v.1 was not default(although it tricked me for a while, I thought MS finally wised up and gave us a file explorer worth using). however, it was not stock and that was my main intention in my build 4. I wanted to put out a ROM as if it came straight from an OEM HTC device.. or as close as possible.

[robmayer]

Originally Posted by daveedem

Ok.... I'm now on V4.

I don't see the my documents on the start menu either. I tried messing around with the registry and the start menu and haven't had any luck yet, but I'm sure you can get it back on the menu from there. Although there may be a cleaner way to do it.

I was trying to stay away from WA2 and WAD (yah I'm a girl - I like the iphone theme) so I thought I'd try Grumps NoWAD iphone theme, but the damn thing kept locking up my device. While it's cool, and I like some of the icons, I like the interactive nature of Lazyboy's theme. So Grump -- props to you, I am gonna use some of your icons.

I'm going to try and get VSBeta 2008 and some emulators running today so I can try and get the iphone theme ported to WA3. That'll be interesting. If you have any experience with that --- let me know. I know you can't do ROM's with it, but apps should be a different story. I just don't want to HS my device trying stuff out.

CJB --- As for #G. I'm using PC 5.07 Build 966 --- thus far I've not had any lock up issues with it.

Did you use the VistaRUU workaround? I think I saw you were using Vista. I'm on a vista box and haven't had any issues connecting. HOWEVER, I have had some customers using one of our pps on various WM5 devices and both in XP and Vista there are some weird variances wth having to connect and disconnect the devices numerous times to get active sync to recognize the device. No AS recognize no PC working.

I also can't remember, but I know that I've seen a pop up with PC that indicates using an alternative method of connecting. Did you try that?

For D -- not sure that is in the ROM as I don't have those names i my HTC home. BUT... now that I think about it... I did sync right after without looking at it, so... nope.. scratch that thought... I don't have them as contacts on my PC.

WT -- I'd lean to PocketPlus. Try uninstalling that and see if you get any stability. While a great program, I've seen it use a fair amount of memory.

Yeah, the documents in the start menu was my work thus it is not their anymore in the stock ROM. If I have time, I'll stick it up on my sites download section. I also recommend flashing in XP, even though there is the VistaRUU, still seems people are having problems. I dual boot my laptop Vista/XP specifically because of this. Well, that and some of my development tools don't work in Visa.

[shawnhenson]

robmayer. you didnt answer my question... Im assumeing that you know what you have changed or left out of the original version that you worked with. I know you said its a clean rom but so was the one that came on my phone and it still locked up before. so do you have any idea what you have changed to cause the phone not to lock up anymore.
Im not talking about add'ons or extra software. just straight up roms yours vs colonial vs sprint_htc rom