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schettj 11-12-2007 01:11 PM

HTC Performance (overclocking) OEM
 
Somehow I missed this in the new ROM/Kitchen... I just manually installed it, and, wow - really pretty slick.

Anyone have any more info on where this app came from?

10 second overview:
It's a control panel. You launch it, enable 'dynamic CPU frequency scaling' checkbox, and pick the 520mhz max.

Then you forget about it, except your apache now runs like it's on steroids.

I've done some light batterymeter tests with it, and it does allow the cpu to drop down to standby/low power just fine - my idle power draw is the same 27ma (screen off but 6700 on) and the full power use is not a lot higher. I will have to see how the battery impact is during the day.

It is noticeably faster... snappier. Stable, so far, as well.

So, anyone else using it? Anyone know where it came from?

Perasite 11-12-2007 01:39 PM

Don't know where it came from, but I'm using it too, and loving it! Never used an overclocking program before, so I like the extra speed.

Zlog 11-12-2007 02:49 PM

Is there a cab installer for this version that you guys are using?

scotbotmosh 11-12-2007 03:06 PM

I just enabled this thing last week too when I ran across it, breathed new life into my apache that is for sure. A definate must have if you are running WM6.

TMB_XV6700 11-12-2007 03:47 PM

Schettj,
Between blazing performance and your 27mA base current draw, you've convinced me to include this and those Power Management tweaks you referenced in my next build. (Apparently I've been too content with a floor of 35mA).

schettj 11-12-2007 04:51 PM

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That's ~27ma for the floor with the screen off, not just backlight off, EVDO connected and idle, cpu idle.

Screen on/backlight off (ie, hold down power button until bl off) ~ 32ma

So the touchscreen/lcd draws ~5ma.

Some screenshots, all with overclock @ 520mhz and those powersaving tweaks in :D - tricky to catch the power level with screen off ;D

First three show no EVDO, idle screen+bl on (66), idle bl off (37) and idle screen off (29),

Last one shows me powering on evdo + email check (350ma spike) and then power off screen, power back on to take shot (34ma, but you can see I missed the low point...)

Having the screenshot app up and total commander up seems to cost me a few ma ;)

So yeah, does not seem to hurt at all to have it overclocked, at least for standby time.

JTSV 11-12-2007 04:59 PM

Where is this located? either cab or download I would like to get my apache on steroids.

mgioia2 11-12-2007 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTSV (Post 120187)
Where is this located? either cab or download I would like to get my apache on steroids.

It's in the new kitchen, haven't seen a .cab for it around.

schettj 11-12-2007 05:39 PM

you can unzip the OEM in the ppcgeeksoem.rar file and just run the executable on your device. That seems to work fine

mboudro 11-12-2007 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 120225)
you can unzip the OEM in the ppcgeeksoem.rar file and just run the executable on your device. That seems to work fine

I found the file there and it seemed to work fine. Thanks for the tip!

KidGixxer 11-12-2007 07:03 PM

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Here is a cab i slapped together.

fitbryan 11-12-2007 08:02 PM

I always had bad experiences with overclocking the 6700 with the previous apps for WM5. Always seemed to require soft resets ever day or 2 as I recall? Hope this runs better :)

dtndvm 11-12-2007 08:12 PM

Is this specific to the 6700 or would it work on the 6800 as well?

saqer 11-12-2007 08:32 PM

k..so I just overclocked to 624...and I do notice an increase I speed and responsiveness, but also a quick battery test indicates that I may not be using much more battery than normal. if that's the case then htc performance is really the best way to overclock our processors. anyone else notice this?

TMB_XV6700 11-12-2007 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saqer (Post 120327)
.... anyone else notice this?

Not to be (too) flippant, but I think that was schettj's point in the first post of this thread.

PPC67002481 11-12-2007 08:47 PM

what rom is this overcloking in?

schettj 11-12-2007 09:31 PM

it's in the WM6 Apache/6700 kitchen, in the set of OEMs in PPCGeeks_OEM.rar - in the kitchen I think its in a group named "performance"?

Oh, and even in the app itself it suggests you don't go for the 624mhz overclock. I am inclined to agree, - the 520mhz setting is already 25% faster then the stock clock speed of 416 MHz. You don't want your phone to catch fire ;)

CHUFLY29 11-12-2007 09:36 PM

This app is great! Since building this ROM from the kitchen I've had about ~5MB ram, but this little overclock has nullified those effects and then some! This is great!

friguy3 11-12-2007 09:50 PM

can anyone comment on the sound. I had used overclocking before in the older ROMs and it made this weird noise with screen taps...thanks

pseudophone 11-12-2007 10:43 PM

works for me
 
Running at 624, no problems so far...

jtrag 11-12-2007 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtndvm (Post 120314)
Is this specific to the 6700 or would it work on the 6800 as well?

I just installed it on my 6800 and it has the option in there to overclock. I turned it on, I have no Idea if it is actually doing anything though. It does appear to be a little faster/more responsive. That could just be my imagination too lol...

saqer 11-12-2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMB_XV6700 (Post 120330)
Not to be (too) flippant, but I think that was schettj's point in the first post of this thread.

LOL...yeah I was posting from my phone and didn't read the previous posts prior, but I should have clarified that this app appears to use less battery life than similar products such as xcpuscalar. XCPUscalar would have to compete with the internal clocking mechanism therefore using even more battery power even if you underclocked.
Some more observations:

1. Do not notice a greater drain of battery in standby mode
2. No sound warping issues like with xcpuscalar when overclocking to 624
3. No stability issues and running 624 just fine with several programs opened and tested

dmitt25 11-12-2007 10:49 PM

I've been running it on 624 for about a week... haven't noticed any difference in battery usage. Have noticed a significant increase in program switching speed. Can't comment on the resetting every two days thing yet as I've cooked my rom about 8 times in the last 4 days! :)

jbrianj 11-12-2007 10:57 PM

Been running at 624 all week looks good so far.

wchamblee 11-12-2007 11:10 PM

So I have the .CAB installed, where can i find the app to launch it. I looked in start>programs. Any suggestions?

saqer 11-12-2007 11:16 PM

Settings -> System ->

It also appears the over clocking works whilst charging, which I don't think XCPUscalar was capable of.

nemanracing 11-13-2007 02:31 AM

Anyway to see this speed increase in a program? I can use TCPMP and look under options/settings/general and it would give a speed reading(maybe a bit off but close)... With PHM OC'd to 520 while playing a vid TCPMP would read the speed increase, with htc performance OC'd to 520 TCPMP still showed 420(aka 416 stock)... And the video still ran choppy... Any ideas?

schettj 11-13-2007 10:01 AM

spb benchmark should show a difference...

schettj 11-13-2007 10:36 AM

Ok SPB Benchmark results for just cpu speeds

Native 416mhz:
Whetstones MFlop 5207ms
Whetstones MOPS 1600ms
Whetstones MWIPS 10309ms

Performance 520mhz:
Whetstones MFlop 5195ms
Whetstones MOPS 1588ms
Whetstones MWIPS 10361ms

Performance 624mhz:
Whetstones MFlop 5208ms
Whetstones MOPS 1585ms
Whetstones MWIPS 10332ms

So... weird. Will play with this some more and figure out what's going on - possibly its all in my head ;)

takmsdsm 11-13-2007 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemanracing (Post 120596)
Anyway to see this speed increase in a program? I can use TCPMP and look under options/settings/general and it would give a speed reading(maybe a bit off but close)... With PHM OC'd to 520 while playing a vid TCPMP would read the speed increase, with htc performance OC'd to 520 TCPMP still showed 420(aka 416 stock)... And the video still ran choppy... Any ideas?

i use the same method, i got no change either.

nuguy 11-13-2007 10:55 AM

it still autoscales so you have to do something that will push your procesor up to the peak speed, and catch it there...

schettj 11-13-2007 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 120701)
Ok SPB Benchmark results for just cpu speeds

Native 416mhz:
Whetstones MFlop 5207ms
Whetstones MOPS 1600ms
Whetstones MWIPS 10309ms

Performance 520mhz:
Whetstones MFlop 5195ms
Whetstones MOPS 1588ms
Whetstones MWIPS 10361ms

Performance 624mhz:
Whetstones MFlop 5208ms
Whetstones MOPS 1585ms
Whetstones MWIPS 10332ms

So... weird. Will play with this some more and figure out what's going on - possibly its all in my head ;)

Not sure what's going on... maybe it's not actually working after all...
xcpuscaler 520mhz:
Whetstones MFlop 3816ms
Whetstones MOPS 882ms
Whetstones MWIPS 7899ms

Those are the results you would expect - 25% faster. xcpuscaler seems unstable under WM6 but it clearly speeds things up.

nuguy 11-13-2007 11:13 AM

after using it a short while, it definitly does speed things up, not as much as xcpu, but I like it, I can finaly get rid of autostep...

Gervy 11-13-2007 11:25 AM

What's odd is that I 'think' my phone (6700) runs faster @ 520 than @ 624.
Could be just my head messing with me.

Other than that, I've been running HTC Performance since the WM6 kitchen came out, and it's been stable for me. No issues. (well, check that, 1 weird graphic lockup, but that could be due to dropping my phone a few times).



Gervy

schettj 11-13-2007 12:35 PM

Ok, more testing....

I have no idea what its doing. using pocket hack master to view low level settings:
HTC Perf. off: - cpu 312 bus 208 mem104 lcd 104/sticky engine
HTC Perf. on, either speed:- cpu 312 bus 208 mem104 lcd 104/sticky engine

So no change - but for some reason, it sure feels snappier with it on.

Apparently this utility came from Helmi_c.

microfirmz1 11-14-2007 11:36 AM

Chances are it just raises the bar on how fast the cpu can work. so you would only see it in a high-use time. can someone try streaming a video and then use one of the programs to clock the cpu?

schettj 11-14-2007 12:42 PM

Well, the spb perf tests are running CPU at 100% - and they're not running any faster with any of the HTC Performance settings.

So I don't think that's it. I'm thinking maybe (just maybe!) the overclocking isn't working. But, what might be working is the min speed of 300ish mhz is higher then then default setting... so in general use it would feel snappier.

Clearly, it never does actually overclock beyond 416mhz.

Torx 11-14-2007 01:20 PM

wow, alot of overclockers here.. i still havent clocked mine yet.

i gotta try this!

Zlog 11-14-2007 01:59 PM

HTC Camera seems to load faster on 520 then stock, and then faster on 624 then 520.

So it seems to be working sometimes maybe??? /boggle

schettj 11-14-2007 02:42 PM

I know Zlog... it's really weirding me out too. None of the benchmarks show a speed improvement, but it sure feels snappier with "overclocking" on. I've decided to not worry about it, and leave it on. It just makes me happy even if it does nothing at all ;)


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