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saqer 11-14-2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by schettj (Post 121757)
I know Zlog... it's really weirding me out too. None of the benchmarks show a speed improvement, but it sure feels snappier with "overclocking" on. I've decided to not worry about it, and leave it on. It just makes me happy even if it does nothing at all ;)

ditto. I thoroughly enjoy the placebo effect, although, I can attest to quicker response. I have SPB Time and it has a screen saver function. It used to take a second or two to snap out of it when I hit a button, but now it disappears fully really quickly.

adam2dot0 11-14-2007 06:06 PM

I see a difference in the Camera app too. Not only does it load much faster, but the preview screen shows smoother, almost "realtime" movement, running @ 624. Everything else seems snappier too :)

scotbotmosh 11-14-2007 06:53 PM

Has any one had issues runing at 624? Also has anyone noticed a difference between 520 and 624?

wb8yst 11-14-2007 07:31 PM

The slowest peice of software I have on redraw is Topo USA and use 8 meg to 42 meg for the map files, and I can see a difference in the refresh at 520, but it does not seem to be any faster at 624, maybe its me, kinda seems a bit slower at 625, but both are faster than stock clock.

?GotJazz? 11-14-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by schettj (Post 120002)
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my idle power draw is the same 27ma (screen off but 6700 on) and the full power use is not a lot higher. I will have to see how the battery impact is during the day.

Hey, schettj - Wow! How the heck did you get down to 27ma - 34ma?

The lowest I've ever seen is 47ma (backlight off, screen on). This was off a fresh build, no TSRs (I believe), and all 4 DisablePowerManagement registry entries set to 0.

schettj 11-14-2007 08:53 PM

Just stock WM6 stuff. Dunno why its so low :D WM5 was running in the low 30s.

starfall 11-14-2007 11:36 PM

excellent! I just installed it and my 6700 runs much faster now.

dpdurst 11-14-2007 11:59 PM

I just changed mine over to the 520mhz and it does seem a bit snappier now.

unitypunk 11-15-2007 12:48 AM

ive never tried 625... but i want to..

if its any better..

i use 520 and love it

( i think pagepool 10) also increases my speed to the max!

jspenc3 11-15-2007 01:05 PM

I installed the cab on WM6 kitchen R1 yesterday and so far it is definately quicker at 520. I'll be watching the battery and see if it makes an impact, but I think it's worth it either way :)

daveedem 11-15-2007 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scotbotmosh (Post 122004)
Has any one had issues runing at 624? Also has anyone noticed a difference between 520 and 624?

I did notice some lockups at 624 so I reverted back to stock. I was using the latest WA3 at the time though. I just reverted back to the previous WA3 and am a little gunshy of overclocking but I may try it for the hell of it.

Latest kitchen, touch dial and hopefully not an overloaded ROM so i should be ok.

Did you get issues at 624?

scotbotmosh 11-16-2007 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by daveedem (Post 123162)
I did notice some lockups at 624 so I reverted back to stock. I was using the latest WA3 at the time though. I just reverted back to the previous WA3 and am a little gunshy of overclocking but I may try it for the hell of it.

Latest kitchen, touch dial and hopefully not an overloaded ROM so i should be ok.

Did you get issues at 624?

I haven't had the courage to move up to 624 yet...ha ha I was waiting to see if any one else did...did you notice a difference between 624 and 520?

Zlog 11-16-2007 02:43 AM

Not a single problem for me so far at 624.

for what its worth :)

ksg 11-16-2007 05:10 AM

I've taken the cab from post #11 ( http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=11 ) and have added a shortcut for the application to the Programs menu. That way you don't have to go around hunting for the application (which is installed in \windows\performance.exe).

Code:

ftp://ppcgeeks:ezupload@up.ppcgeeks.com/Apache/Users/ksg/

(filename: "HTC Performance (with shortcut).cab")


nuguy 11-16-2007 10:25 AM

I added a shortcut to it in the startup menu (need to ok it durring soft reset each time). I've been running it constantly at 624 for about a week now - zero problems, and it is snappier, haven't done true testing, seems like more torque as opposed to more horsepower.

Torque is king in everyday life...

ksg 11-16-2007 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nuguy (Post 123373)
I added a shortcut to it in the startup menu (need to ok it durring soft reset each time). I've been running it constantly at 624 for about a week now - zero problems, and it is snappier, haven't done true testing, seems like more torque as opposed to more horsepower.

Torque is king in everyday life...

AFAIK you don't have to put a shortcut in your startup menu as it adds a registry value to make it start (hidden) on its own. Someone correct me if I'm wrong and I'll add that shortcut also to the cab I've modified.

?GotJazz? 11-16-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by schettj (Post 122108)
Just stock WM6 stuff. Dunno why its so low :D WM5 was running in the low 30s.

OK, now I'm gettin' really pizzed! :???:

I just built a "My cupboard is bare" Kitchen with nothing but the dotFred Registry Editor and acb PowerMeter.

I hard reset my XV6700, and after it booted up, the first thing I ran was acb PowerMeter. I let it run to idle (with backlight off), and I still saw my lowest draw at 47 mA.

What the heck did you do to get your power that low, schettj? Sneak a Zero-Point Module power source into your Apache while no one was looking? :drunken:

Raging Idiot 11-17-2007 09:59 AM

Fact or fiction... The cell phone uses more energy in a low signal area.


I don't entirely trust perception nor processor meter apps.... But I'll run at normal then at 620mhz and compare the amount of seconds it takes to launch TOMTOM as well as the amount of time it takes to calculate the directions from Atlanta to Miami.
Hard to beat a real-world test.

schettj 11-17-2007 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ?GotJazz? (Post 123874)
OK, now I'm gettin' really pizzed! :???:

I just built a "My cupboard is bare" Kitchen with nothing but the dotFred Registry Editor and acb PowerMeter.

I hard reset my XV6700, and after it booted up, the first thing I ran was acb PowerMeter. I let it run to idle (with backlight off), and I still saw my lowest draw at 47 mA.

What the heck did you do to get your power that low, schettj? Sneak a Zero-Point Module power source into your Apache while no one was looking? :drunken:

Yep, I am measuring the dead idle draw - CPU on, screen OFF (you can do that using any number of utilities) to get under 30ma. The 47 is typical (and good) for idle screen on, backlight off. Add those power mgmt reg tweaks and it should be in the low 30s. 10ma makes a difference over a whole day!

I can tell you one fact - forgot to put mine in flight mode @ the gym - a bunker of a place @ work with no signal - and in 1 hour of "searching..." it dropped 20%.

sketchy09 11-17-2007 12:24 PM

Does anyone have more info about this app? I would be interested in running it on my brand-new Touch but am hesitant for obvious reasons. Maybe a link to the original app or description on the HTC site, or experiences on non-Apache devices? Thanx,

-R

savy1 11-17-2007 07:41 PM

just installed on my Mogul 6800 and wow what a difference it makes. haven't done 620 yet, but 524 makes a great difference even with opening images..., programs, and the such. Man this is what the mogul is supposed to be like.

dpdurst 11-17-2007 07:55 PM

well running at 520 my extended battery seemed to drain down to 40% after 36 hours of no charge, when I was running with no overclock the battery was only 80%! I changed it back to the normal speed for now.

PolloLoco 11-19-2007 12:05 PM

This utility works without question during direct input. The phone's responsiveness is much snappier to clicks. However, video games and videos still play slow or choppy in comparison to XCPUScalar. I've done some benchmarks on TCPMP to confirm this.

So, if you want a snappier phone - but no real overclocking, this program might work for you. I think I'm just going to go back to XCPUScalar.

TonyDiv 11-19-2007 01:28 PM

Does this work with WM5 AKU3.5 or just WM6?

unitypunk 11-19-2007 06:36 PM

i think im going to run at 624 for a few days... see how hot my pocket gets :)

DodgeV83 11-19-2007 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PolloLoco (Post 125521)
This utility works without question during direct input. The phone's responsiveness is much snappier to clicks. However, video games and videos still play slow or choppy in comparison to XCPUScalar. I've done some benchmarks on TCPMP to confirm this.

So, if you want a snappier phone - but no real overclocking, this program might work for you. I think I'm just going to go back to XCPUScalar.

Makes sense considering XCPUScalar reduces your battery life, and this app apparently doesn't. Different strokes for different folks.

schettj 11-19-2007 08:43 PM

It should not get hot. It does not actually overclock the CPU. We don't know what it's doing, but it has no measurable effect on CPU tests, nor on power consumption.

Apparently, checking the box adds some additional comcastic! hi speed mojo (:p) to the 6700

InvincibleLiving 11-19-2007 09:17 PM

i've noticed a decent speed increase since dialing it up 520 yesterday, and now even more since upping it to 624 after watching this tread closely.... no issues so far!

sdruid 11-19-2007 10:21 PM

Will this high performance hack work with WM5 ?
I installed it and can't get it to execute...

I'm running WM5 with the Kitchen AKU 3.5 custom rom upgrade...

Thanks..

unitypunk 11-19-2007 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 125918)
It should not get hot. It does not actually overclock the CPU. We don't know what it's doing, but it has no measurable effect on CPU tests, nor on power consumption.

Apparently, checking the box adds some additional comcastic! hi speed mojo (:p) to the 6700

Well, i knoticed a SIGNIFIGANT battery decrease, so i took it off of 624... it was idleing AT about 75 instead of the usual 47-55 for me..

sooo ima stick with 520

schettj 11-20-2007 02:12 AM

weird... ok, I'll check that again tomorrow - I didn't see any difference when I measured it today. Did you soft reset after changing the speed or not (just so I can do the same thing?) Thanks!

jhonny11 11-20-2007 07:58 PM

I have it at 624, and it is wicked fast! Yes it does suck down the power (though not as bad as I had expected - just got a 3200mah seidio so we'll see how that goes) Compared to stock and 520 it really seems to move a heck of a lot faster. I was worried about 624, but since I have the insurance, I figured, what could it hurt :D

schettj 11-20-2007 08:40 PM

So, y'all are using 6700s? And seeing actual battery differences?

I just put mine into 624 mode, and as expected, no idle battery draw difference before soft reset.

Soft reset, and - still no difference. I'll leave it in that mode for a while, but I don't think its doing anything at all - at least on my 6700.

Torx 11-20-2007 11:51 PM

520 is snappier than 624. helmi has made one kickass placebo effect.

luv2chill 11-21-2007 03:02 AM

I think we'll rename this in the next kitchen to "HTC Sugar Pill".

j/k, kinda... ;)

InvincibleLiving 11-21-2007 03:06 AM

I love it, placebo oem's...

friguy3 11-21-2007 09:34 AM

So now that we basically agree this does not do too much...does anyone use anything else to overclock? XCPUScaler?

schettj 11-21-2007 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv2chill (Post 127024)
I think we'll rename this in the next kitchen to "HTC Sugar Pill".

j/k, kinda... ;)

You know what's weird... if you pick the 624 speed, battery life sucks, *and* its slower. But the idle ma draw is unchanged.

If you run into Helmi_c, you have got to ask him about this oem :D

And yeah, 520 feels faster then off. Freaky.

guitardoc64 11-21-2007 10:38 AM

Is there any way of checking to see if the processor speed is actually increasing?
I've been running at 520, and notice little if any, difference. Hadn't tried 624....

schettj 11-21-2007 11:16 AM

It's not. If it did, cpu benchmarks would have shown that.

See the early posts in this topic by me, where I did cpu benchmarks with this "overclock" and an actual real live overclocking app.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=32 (that's the post)

I have no idea what this is doing - it's doing something... just not doing anything to the cpu clock.


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