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Kolano 11-09-2007 12:32 AM

Apache WM6 Kitchen CE OS 5.2.1908 (Build 18508.0.7.0) 071108_1 Bugs/Patches
 
This is the bug collection thread for the Apache WM6 Kitchen CE OS 5.2.1908 (Build 18508.0.7.0) 071108_1. I'll gather bugs into this first message, so folks don't need to poke all over to find them. Please note that this thread is for bugs occurring in the ROMs produced via the kitchen, the file contents of it's OEM packages, or problems with their configuration or interaction. Bugs related to BuildOS,the tool used to compile/flash the ROM images, should be posted to it's bug thread.
Quote:

Originally Posted by gguruusa
BuildOS problems are generally these: Kitchen Installation fails, kitchen shortcuts don't work, application fails to start, Application exits with error msg XXX, unexplainable errors during build or startup, added OEMs don't show in BuildOS, visual display problems in BuildOS, Boot issues (white screen on PPC), and corrupt boot splash.

=== Bugs ===
If you have a bug let us know. Please...
:arrow: Be specific.
:arrow: Provide steps to reproduce, including details of any customizations you have made.
:arrow: Post your "Apache_Helmi_WM6 Selections.txt" file, so relevent BuildOS selections can be replicated.

Unconfirmed BugsNon-Kitchen Bugs
  • Weatherpanel is known to cause lock-ups
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by luv2chill (Post 117908)
    by any chance are you running weatherpanel? That is known to cause lockups.

  • MobiTV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by synaptyc (Post 118795)
    MobiTV2 (v4.4.1.15863) doesn't load tv stations if you build a ROM that includes HTC Touch Keypad.
    Quite a shame too. I really like that SIP, but I REALLY like MobiTV2 better.
    ... better that SprintTV due to the frame rate... Anyway... back on topic:
    I tried many different builds of the ROM, from stripped down, to fairly loaded. Same result. If HTC Touch Keypad was included... No MobiTV2.]

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pdx77 (Post 118798)
    Speaking of MobiTV2, when you choose full screen, it doesn't switch to landscape mode..

  • GPS Navigation
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by synaptyc (Post 118795)
    POSTED BY: Krazy4Real in the 071107_02 Bugs/Patches thread
    I have a bug with iguidance 3.0.1. When you setup a route and it starts navigating you, if you touch the screen to go to menu for example it exits the program. This does not occur with 3.5 1.0.4 kitchen.

    I have the same issue with TomTom6 with build 071107_02 and build 071108_1.

Confirmed Bugs
  • TouchKeyboard SIP disables messaging auto-completion
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mgioia2
    Contacts don't show up when you start typing a name in the "new" messaging line.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CHUFLY29
    I noticed when I had the TouchKeyboard installed as a separate SIP it hosed the name recognition.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by verizonguy (Post 116844)
    This is the offending part of the package:
    Code:


    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409]
      "Layout Text"="eT9 IME"
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409]
      "Ime File"="\\windows\\eT9Ime.dll"

    In order for auto completion/correction to work, you have to use the comp ime, not the et9 ime.

    For completion to work, it should read:
    Code:

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409]
    "Ime File"="compime.dll"
    "Layout Text"="COMP IME"

    I'm assuming this would break the touch keyboard's features, but feel free to test it.

  • Vogue Dialer OEM Causes Dialer to Popup on Application Close
    Quote:

    I have the HTC Vogue dialer and a fairly basic ROM installed from the kitchen. As I was setting up everything it seems the screen kept returning to the dialer view (sometimes the keypad and other times the in call screen).
  • Simple PIN Locks Up Phone?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lazybones (Post 114950)
    Soft reset your device while it is enabled.. then let the password screen fully load. I tested it by just setting the password. It happens nearly every time after a soft reset, and randomly when the device is put to sleep.

    Edit:

    More detailed Steps to reproduce:
    1. Go to settings and lock
    2. Select Simple PIN as your password type and set a password of at least 5 digits
    3. Soft reset your phone
    4. Wait for the device to fully load (IE the tool bar theme has loaded and the phone has found a signal)
    5. Now try to unlock the phone with your pin.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by luv2chill (Post 116753)
    ...yes I was able to confirm your report by doing a soft reset with password enabled (had similar lockup problems whether it was simple pin or regular password). I could never reproduce that behavior just with a simple inactivity timeout, but I know you said that was random. But it definitely occurred after every soft reset.

    I flashed back to every iteration of helmi's wm6 ROM I had and they all suffered that issue. Seems to be some sort of timeout issue... like the device is waiting for "something" once you click unlock, and when it doesn't happen in x amount of time the device gives up and proceeds anyway. That's what it "seems" like anyway--I could be way off base.

    I had helmi confirm that it does not occur on the Universal (which is the closest device hardware-wise to the Apache). So it's either a driver issue or something in the registry that's causing it. Hopeully we'll get to the bottom of it soon.

  • PC to Phone IR communication problem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xv6700zj
    when i want to transfer a file by IR beam, it appears error!! It seems IR beam OBEX not works. Transferring files beteen the two phones is OK!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gguruusa
    It's probably a bug. We're looking into it.

  • SD-Card Transfer Speed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by luv2chill (Post 118391)
    This is caused by you selecting the SDHC driver when you built your ROM. As it turns out some registry entries need to be adjusted to slow the transfer rate down to prevent the skipping. Verizonguy has figured out the necessary entries and posted them in the Bugs thread before this one (071107_2). If you're comfortable editing the registry you can do that yourself. If not, those changes will be in the next build of the kitchen.

    Or, if you don't have a SDHC card, then build instead with the SD-only drivers and this problem won't occur.

  • Battery Meter Issue
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spetrillo (Post 117955)
    I have just flashed my phone from the new kitchen and noticed that the battery meter in the upper right portion of the phone does not work. When I tap on top of it then it should take me to the battery meter but it does not. This used to work in the VZG kitchen.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by luv2chill (Post 117817)
    It's due to HTC Task Manager (X-button) IIRC.

  • Battery Drains More Quickly
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ?GotJazz? (Post 117482)
    I just moved from VerizonGuy's WM6 Kitchen to Helmi's WM6 Kitchen. It seemed like Helmi's Kitchen was chewing up my battery faster than VerizonGuy's Kitchen, so I did a little test:

    I built Helmi's Kitchen with the same programs that I used in VerizonGuy's Kitchen. The only exception is the above-mentioned HTC Task Manager, where I used version 2.0.xxxx for Helmi's Kitchen.

    I rebooted my XV6700 with nothing else running. After 8 hours of inactivity on VerizonGuy's Kitchen, I still saw a battery level of 100%. With Helmi's Kitchen, I see my battery level at 70% after 8 hours of inactivity.
    [/INDENT]

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by luv2chill (Post 117817)
    This kitchen does indeed have those entries (I placed in OEM_Helmi_Addition) but for some reason they're getting overwritten by the defaults during the build process and I didn't even realize it. I'll figure it out.

Resolved Bugs
  • Problems sending MMS on Sprint?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scotbotmosh
    upon sending the MMS message I recieve an error that my message could not be sent. I use Sprint

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zachspda
    Under server configuration in mms you need to change mms.sprintpcs.com to 63.215.195.152 leave the rest the same


Kolano 11-09-2007 12:32 AM

=== Patches ====== Requests ====== Prior Kitchen Updates ===
Thanks everyone from the prior bug threads for helping address many of these issues from the Kitchen Change Log:
Kitchen 071108_1 ChangesKitchen 071107_2 ChangesKitchen 071107_1 Changes
  • Rom folder reference fixed. (Only broken in 071106_1)
Kitchen 071106_1 Changes=== Prior PPCGeeks OEMs Updates ===
And these issues from the OEM Change Log:
OEM Rev2 Changes=== Prior Bug Threads ===

luv2chill 11-09-2007 02:32 AM

Kolano the mode of operation issue has been resolved since the first kitchen release on 11/5. The thread you linked for that bug is from September/October.

Kolano 11-09-2007 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv2chill (Post 117609)
Kolano the mode of operation issue has been resolved since the first kitchen release on 11/5. The thread you linked for that bug is from September/October.

k, thanks. I don't see the menu, but that may be due to my 1.43 radio.

xv6700zj 11-09-2007 05:04 AM

Thanks for all your hard work!!!!
I use the new kitchen, and use the default selections. After refreshed, I put my phone near computer, the computer can find the device, but when i want to transfer a file by IR beam, it appears error!! It seems IR beam OBEX not works. Transferring files beteen the two phones is OK!
WM5 rom from Helmi Official AKU 3.5 Kitchen and WM6 rom from Helmi and Verizonguy old Kitchen all work fine!! Is it a bug or I am missing something!? Thanks!!

gguruusa 11-09-2007 06:34 AM

It's probably a bug. We're looking into it.

Wizzard 11-09-2007 07:27 AM

I have cooked a rom about 10 times trying to get O2 to work. When you check the various parts of O2 you get only them. You do not get the O2 shortcuts or the ability to use O2 as a task manager to shut down programs.

If you just select O2 you don't get anything.

I have tried several other OEMs and cabs via the OEMISER but, nothing has worked.

I also do not see the ability to unlock the extended ROM.

Would someone help please? I had VGs new kitchen working very well with O2 but Helmi's doesn't seem to like it.

Thanks

tiermann 11-09-2007 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzard (Post 117689)
I also do not see the ability to unlock the extended ROM.


Thanks

Look in the carrier ext rom section.

delosky 11-09-2007 10:10 AM

Resco Explorer 2007
 
Great job as always guys - the best one yet by far!

One problem I've run into is the ability to register Resco File Explorer 2007. I used the OEM from Jonahan and I have a valid registration that has worked before. I've checked my Name settings in the Owner Information tab and I've re-entered it several times. I also requested a registration key from Resco from the PDA and the registration key I've put in is what they sent me.

Has anyone else run into this issue or know how to resolve it?

f1cy 11-09-2007 10:28 AM

Thanks man, i want to upgrade back my phone.

spetrillo 11-09-2007 02:13 PM

Possible Bug
 
I have just flashed my phone from the new kitchen and noticed that the battery meter in the upper right portion of the phone does not work. When I tap on top of it then it should take me to the battery meter but it does not. This used to work in the VZG kitchen.

Thanks,
Steve

luv2chill 11-09-2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spetrillo (Post 117955)
I have just flashed my phone from the new kitchen and noticed that the battery meter in the upper right portion of the phone does not work. When I tap on top of it then it should take me to the battery meter but it does not. This used to work in the VZG kitchen.

Thanks,
Steve

That is due to including HTC Task Manager (maybe it only affects the 2.0 version? I don't use it so maybe someone else can confirm whether it affects 1.5 as well).

I don't think there's anything we can do about it--that's just how the app works).

melvinp 11-09-2007 02:18 PM

Dialer
 
Has anyone noticed that sometimes when you leave applications in settings section, the dialer appears?

gguruusa 11-09-2007 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melvinp (Post 117960)
Has anyone noticed that sometimes when you leave applications in settings section, the dialer appears?

It's because of the close button app you're using.

spetrillo 11-09-2007 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv2chill (Post 117959)
That is due to including HTC Task Manager (maybe it only affects the 2.0 version? I don't use it so maybe someone else can confirm whether it affects 1.5 as well).

I don't think there's anything we can do about it--that's just how the app works).

I am going to flash the phone again with the older task manager, because this did work at one time. can we remove the battery indicator if it doesnt work?

Thanks,
Steve

luv2chill 11-09-2007 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spetrillo (Post 118151)
I am going to flash the phone again with the older task manager, because this did work at one time. can we remove the battery indicator if it doesnt work?

Thanks,
Steve

Sure you can--I put an OEM to do just that in the "Tweaks" section of BuildOS (it will put the clock back up there instead).

Trident 11-09-2007 05:42 PM

Super duper minor glitch (I think).
When I plug into my car charger, the device doesn't recognize that it is connected. It kind of does, because the backlight comes on, but I don't get my normal orange LED on the top right.
This used to happen with some of the older WM5AKU3.5 ROM, but all my WM6 ROMs up until this one had no such issues.

Update:
I don't know if it's because I removed VistaHideBattery or it just started working on it's own (like it did w/AKU3.5), but my battery charger is now recognized.
This thing absolutely rocks. I'm going to keep on saying that. I can't believe I can overclock so easily with such a dramatic difference...

edufur 11-09-2007 06:29 PM

so when you say you put the oemizer in the menu, is there something i should be seeing? because i dont see it.

Trident 11-09-2007 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edufur (Post 118230)
so when you say you put the oemizer in the menu, is there something i should be seeing? because i dont see it.

OEMizer is in the Tools folder of the Kitchen.

Kolano 11-09-2007 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edufur (Post 118230)
so when you say you put the oemizer in the menu, is there something i should be seeing? because i dont see it.

This should go to the BuildOS thread.

It should be the first Image Converter item, but things were slightly mis-configured. Fixed BuildOS_config.txt now available.

rp3319 11-09-2007 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trident (Post 118183)
Super duper minor glitch (I think).
When I plug into my car charger, the device doesn't recognize that it is connected. It kind of does, because the backlight comes on, but I don't get my normal orange LED on the top right.
This used to happen with some of the older WM5AKU3.5 ROM, but all my WM6 ROMs up until this one had no such issues.

Trident -I'm pretty sure mine still did this on occasion with the original WM6 Helmi beta release. I ususally ran into this issue after a soft-reset while plugged in or shortly after a reset. I think it's just moody... ](*,)

Great Job to everyone who's made this possible! I haven't tried the kitchen yet, because I can't decide what all to include and now I need to figure out the OEMizer... too much good stuff! =D>

Wizzard 11-09-2007 06:58 PM

Thanks Tierman for the reply. I found it!!

nkawal 11-09-2007 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rp3319 (Post 118253)
Trident -I'm pretty sure mine still did this on occasion with the original WM6 Helmi beta release. I ususally ran into this issue after a soft-reset while plugged in or shortly after a reset. I think it's just moody... ](*,)

Great Job to everyone who's made this possible! I haven't tried the kitchen yet, because I can't decide what all to include and now I need to figure out the OEMizer... too much good stuff! =D>

up to now i have the same problem...i thought it was a defective charger, returned it and got a new one. same problem..........i realized that if the battery has a certiain amount of power, roughly 80% or more, it wont start charging for a couple of minutes....give or take 5-7 minutes. I know, this sounds weird, but I went through 3 PPC-6700's, all with different roms and 2 car chargers, same problem...but it eventually starts charging.

Wizzard 11-09-2007 07:40 PM

I know that I am not too bright, but I don't seem to be able to save my build.

I push "save file" and then I push the save file icon on Build OS and nothing happens to the file it just reverts to the default.

This is a great kitchen!!!! it works fast and stable.

Thanks to all who participated.

RussMuscle 11-09-2007 08:16 PM

I have had the charging issue as well with all of the ROM's it is a phone deal a believe because it did it with the Stock ROM's as well. I have only had it happen after any kind of reset. The work around I follow is to hit the power button on the top of the phone to turn off the screen, then plug it into the charger. That seems to alleviate the problem.

spetrillo 11-09-2007 10:18 PM

Music Playback
 
Is anyone seeing a skipping condition with music coming from a SD card in the kitchen? It seems the first 5 secs of most songs has the skipping condition and then it settles down. Maybe its the retrieval from the SD card? I am not using a Bluetooth headset to listen, just a std wired headset.

Is there anything I can do to pump up the volume on the phone also?

Thanks,
Steve

luv2chill 11-09-2007 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spetrillo (Post 118364)
Is anyone seeing a skipping condition with music coming from a SD card in the kitchen? It seems the first 5 secs of most songs has the skipping condition and then it settles down. Maybe its the retrieval from the SD card? I am not using a Bluetooth headset to listen, just a std wired headset.

Is there anything I can do to pump up the volume on the phone also?

Thanks,
Steve

This is caused by you selecting the SDHC driver when you built your ROM. As it turns out some registry entries need to be adjusted to slow the transfer rate down to prevent the skipping. Verizonguy has figured out the necessary entries and posted them in the Bugs thread before this one (071107_2). If you're comfortable editing the registry you can do that yourself. If not, those changes will be in the next build of the kitchen.

Or, if you don't have a SDHC card, then build instead with the SD-only drivers and this problem won't occur.

verizonguy 11-10-2007 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkawal (Post 118272)
up to now i have the same problem...i thought it was a defective charger, returned it and got a new one. same problem..........i realized that if the battery has a certiain amount of power, roughly 80% or more, it wont start charging for a couple of minutes....give or take 5-7 minutes. I know, this sounds weird, but I went through 3 PPC-6700's, all with different roms and 2 car chargers, same problem...but it eventually starts charging.

Just as a side note & this doesn't necessarily apply to your situation, but all mini-usb car chargers do not necessarily work on all mini-usb devices. Most of the car chargers you find on ebay for <$10 that claim they work on the 6700 will actually drain your battery rather than charging it.

For car chargers, it is always a good idea to spend a couple of extra dollars and get an oem charger made by UTS. Here are the official oem chargers made by UT Starcom:
http://www.buywirelessnow.com/utstar...el/1035_263355

nkawal 11-10-2007 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verizonguy (Post 118467)
Just as a side note & this doesn't necessarily apply to your situation, but all mini-usb car chargers do not necessarily work on all mini-usb devices. Most of the car chargers you find on ebay for <$10 that claim they work on the 6700 will actually drain your battery rather than charging it.

For car chargers, it is always a good idea to spend a couple of extra dollars and get an oem charger made by UTS. Here are the official oem chargers made by UT Starcom:
http://www.buywirelessnow.com/utstar...el/1035_263355

the first was original, the second was a brand new one from sprint

lightsail 11-10-2007 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv2chill (Post 118391)
This is caused by you selecting the SDHC driver when you built your ROM. As it turns out some registry entries need to be adjusted to slow the transfer rate down to prevent the skipping. Verizonguy has figured out the necessary entries and posted them in the Bugs thread before this one (071107_2). If you're comfortable editing the registry you can do that yourself. If not, those changes will be in the next build of the kitchen.

Or, if you don't have a SDHC card, then build instead with the SD-only drivers and this problem won't occur.

Where can I find the correct entries found by Verizonguy? Thanks.

lightsail 11-10-2007 02:05 AM

Did anyone try the PushEffect (www.qorefunctions.com) on this kitchen build? It is basically a push-style solution without using direct push, thus no battery drain. I use dummy picture mail message for gmail notification. It works on WM5, but does not work on this WM6 build from my test. The "contains" filter settings will not stay. Can someone try it? It has 7-day trial period. Thanks.

dpdurst 11-10-2007 02:52 AM

I have a strange one, but its definitely constant. Loaded up the new build with the new kitchen and oem .rar and flashed the PPC. I did not add any explorer to the build. I then installed the latest Resco Explorer and Opera browser and put those on the start menu to show up. I also put the system info from programs folder to the start menu. If I do a reset of the PPC with the stylus, when it comes back up online the icons that were on the start menu for the items listed are now just white boxes. The programs still work when clicked, just the icons are missing replaced by white boxes. So it appears that any program added after you flash the rom does this or so far that's the way its been noted. If you add programs in the kitchen those that you put on the start menu keep the icons just fine.

luv2chill 11-10-2007 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightsail (Post 118484)
Where can I find the correct entries found by Verizonguy? Thanks.

"Verizonguy has figured out the necessary entries and posted them in the Bugs thread before this one (071107_2)."

Ah screw it... here ya go:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=24

:D

Wolf71 11-10-2007 09:08 AM

Still bugs as 11/07
 
My main bug is:

HTC Camera is not invoked from arcsoft mms

When i try to call the htc camera from inside of mms applet, nothing happens, i go to menu, new, video or photo message, do clic at space to put a video/photo, list all available on memory and a bottom of screen appear or videocam or camera icon, just press over it but nothing happens.
I'd get back to 3.0.6.24, also getting a duplicate file error (player_middlelayer.dll) on kitchening, but this file not exist on this custom rom
Time zone bug set at -8 gmt instead of -4 at first run, had to soft reset and manually update time syncro
Movistar venezuela resetted regional setting from spanish venezuela to english united states
And always getting a error building rom message at end

Files:
http://rapidshare.com/files/68732185/Apache_Helmi_WM6_Selections.txt.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/68732525/buildlog_071110-090122.txt.html

schettj 11-10-2007 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpdurst (Post 118499)
I have a strange one, but its definitely constant. Loaded up the new build with the new kitchen and oem .rar and flashed the PPC. I did not add any explorer to the build. I then installed the latest Resco Explorer and Opera browser and put those on the start menu to show up. I also put the system info from programs folder to the start menu. If I do a reset of the PPC with the stylus, when it comes back up online the icons that were on the start menu for the items listed are now just white boxes. The programs still work when clicked, just the icons are missing replaced by white boxes. So it appears that any program added after you flash the rom does this or so far that's the way its been noted. If you add programs in the kitchen those that you put on the start menu keep the icons just fine.

Did you
unlock/unhide your extended rom?
install the apps to your storage card?

If you do that last one, even if you don't unhide extended rom but for sure if you do, today/shell sometimes gives up too soon waiting for the storage card to mount on a reset, so it just punts on the icons used for the shortcuts. If you refresh your today screen (either manually, buy changing something in the today settings or via some application like TodayRefresh) the icons will load properly.

daveedem 11-10-2007 10:07 AM

2 minor issues.

1) I installed the dotfred task manager. For some reason it appears 2 times on the today screen. I can't figure out why. When I try to kill one of the task mgr -- it will kill it but it keeps coming back. EDIT --- Ok.. I was able to kill it, but upon S/R 2 come back again.

2) May be with BUILDOS ---- I put tiermann's split Office files in the UserOEM folder. Now whenever I go back into the build OS it tellsme "required module not in project Module Office Excel, then a ref number. BUT when the selections come up, they are listed in the selections area. and they install properly.

verizonguy 11-10-2007 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv2chill (Post 118508)
Ah screw it... here ya go:

rofl :mrgreen: ;)

dpdurst 11-10-2007 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 118607)
Did you
unlock/unhide your extended rom?
install the apps to your storage card?

If you do that last one, even if you don't unhide extended rom but for sure if you do, today/shell sometimes gives up too soon waiting for the storage card to mount on a reset, so it just punts on the icons used for the shortcuts. If you refresh your today screen (either manually, buy changing something in the today settings or via some application like TodayRefresh) the icons will load properly.

Yep did both of those mentioned. I'll try the refresh and see how that works out, otherwise I'll just put the stuff in the wktask launcher and run them from there. Thank

luv2chill 11-10-2007 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveedem (Post 118608)
1) I installed the dotfred task manager. For some reason it appears 2 times on the today screen. I can't figure out why. When I try to kill one of the task mgr -- it will kill it but it keeps coming back. EDIT --- Ok.. I was able to kill it, but upon S/R 2 come back again.

I think you're dealing with the one peculiarity of dotfred task manager that I don't like--tapping the X in the upper right never closes the program. It minimizes it to the tray--even if you've installed a task closing app. There's no way (that I've seen anyway) to change that behavior--you just kinda have to train yourself to always hit the left softkey (should show an "Exit" label) to truly close it.

Despite that quibble, dotfred's task manager is truly a must-have app IMHO. I use it more for its superb registry editor than anything else, but sometimes the other tabs come in handy also.

Trident 11-10-2007 11:29 AM

Another minor quibble.
I've been noticing that my calendar notifications (the popups on the bottom of the today screen) are doubling up. At first I thought that I might have accidentally put them in twice, but I've checked on both Outlook and in PI and there is only one listing of each event/appointment. But there is definitely two reminders in the morning.

I have MemMaid doing a QuickClean after every soft reset and that included checking for "duplicate notifications" (don't know if that's the same thing) & there is at least one soft reset every day after Sprite Backup does its thing.


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