Why did you choose W7 over Android ?

[GoodThings2Life]

Originally Posted by gTen

There is a loading glass? I so far have yet to see it :/..when I use animations its smooth transitions. When I turn off animations its instant load.

Bad example, I guess, but I was referring more to the concept of loading delays and the old Windows Mobile days than anything else. In any case, I never kept animations on in Android. The only reason apps loaded instant on my EVO was when I'd allow them to keep running in the background, but yeah, I frequently experience load lag. But I typically stick to stock ROM experiences.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by eric12341

yea it probably isn't on wp7 either then since that person said he wasn't having issues. I know blackberries are proxied as well.

Its pretty simple to disable, but its sad at the length sprint will go to save a few bucks :/..in blackberries case though I think they do it to encrypt the data as everything goes through their servers.

Originally Posted by GoodThings2Life

Bad example, I guess, but I was referring more to the concept of loading delays and the old Windows Mobile days than anything else. In any case, I never kept animations on in Android. The only reason apps loaded instant on my EVO was when I'd allow them to keep running in the background, but yeah, I frequently experience load lag. But I typically stick to stock ROM experiences.

Everything loads instant on my Epic, even not in background, ran it for 60+ days without a reboot...and once the RFS filesystem is out the door its smoother then butter...

the secret is that TouchWiz launcher is fairly light and the TouchWiz framework instead of adding useless bloat actually includes CPU optimization. The only fault they made is including the RFS filesystem which luckily they stopped doing in the SGS2...

The Evo by default has Sense and that thing is bloated too much..HTC should consider making things load on your phone as you use them and not trying to load up all the things you may not even use..

[GoodThings2Life]

Originally Posted by gTen

The Evo by default has Sense and that thing is bloated too much..HTC should consider making things load on your phone as you use them and not trying to load up all the things you may not even use..

Agreed, which is a point I made earlier... I HATE Sense, and I say HATE here in the sense that if I could punch someone at HTC for the atrocity, I would punch them twice every second for the rest of their life.

One thing I liked about the Arrive though was being able to uninstall all of the HTC/Sprint crap without needing to do any special unlocking routine, and none of it can run on "startup".

[gTen]

Originally Posted by GoodThings2Life

Agreed, which is a point I made earlier... I HATE Sense, and I say HATE here in the sense that if I could punch someone at HTC for the atrocity, I would punch them twice every second for the rest of their life.

One thing I liked about the Arrive though was being able to uninstall all of the HTC/Sprint crap without needing to do any special unlocking routine, and none of it can run on "startup".

Sprint actually added the feature to remove all the sprint stuff without unlocking..as for removing sense well that is a no go..HTC wouldn't even release their tablet with honeycomb simply because sense wasn't ready..its hard for HTC to compete in hardware, so they try to keep people in their "sense ui ecosystem"..

I personally prefer the Touchwiz that comes with the Samsung phones over sense..TouchWiz is a simple clean UI and isn't very bulky(2mb whole thing). The Touchwiz framework is a bit bigger but it actually speeds up the phone so its worth it overall. If you prefer stock ui though you can disable the TW launcher...

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by gTen

Sprint actually added the feature to remove all the sprint stuff without unlocking..as for removing sense well that is a no go..HTC wouldn't even release their tablet with honeycomb simply because sense wasn't ready..its hard for HTC to compete in hardware, so they try to keep people in their "sense ui ecosystem"..

I personally prefer the Touchwiz that comes with the Samsung phones over sense..TouchWiz is a simple clean UI and isn't very bulky(2mb whole thing). The Touchwiz framework is a bit bigger but it actually speeds up the phone so its worth it overall. If you prefer stock ui though you can disable the TW launcher...

so sense can't be disabled on android?

[gTen]

Originally Posted by eric12341

so sense can't be disabled on android?

not really..not without rooting..without rooting you can place another UI on top of it but its still there...

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by gTen

not really..not without rooting..without rooting you can place another UI on top of it but its still there...

oh that's crazy so anyone who doesn't want it there that doesn't know to root is pretty much stuck with it or its RAM usage.