Early WinMo 7 not compatable w/ our current apps

[sprinttouch666]

It sounds like Windows Mobile 7 has been built from scratch. I think that is a good thing interms of stability and speed, but we have to start over in developing apps lol. From the engaget article it sounds like 7 is still in a very early stage, which means we probably will not get a very good look at WMC in a month, and makes a 2010 launch seem unlikely

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/17/e...ime-incompati/

but on the bright side I read another article recently stating that HTC had a large part in developing WM7, which to me sounds epic

let me know what you guys think about the rebuilt from scratch vs no old apps reality (im pro rebuilt from scratch atm)


edit: sorry, forgot to update this post. it seems that the day after I posted this the rumor began to shift to WM7 being able to run apps that were wvga. they apparently give some sort of security warning, but run none the less. (we won't know for sure until wmc or most likely some march)

[MoonZ*BabysH]

It’s starting to look like everybody’s trying to jump into the Windows Mobile rumor bandwagon lately. This time it’s Eldar Murtazin from Mobile-review in Russia who is claiming (via twitter) to have had a hands-on with Microsoft’s upcoming OS. Frankly everything he said sound shady as hell (and he always had one of the worst track record when it comes to WinMo, he for example claimed that it was based on the Windows 7 kernel at first and then back to WinCE and that development was “stopped” last year…). He goes on to say that WM7 isn’t compatible with previous WM apps (which is quite possible), that the UI is in someways similar to the Zune HD’s but then says that it also looks like the early WM7 mockups we have seen (they don’t look like the Zune HD UI at all so.. WTF?). He then claims that it won’t be out this year (even thought we have LG who, as recently as yesterday supposedly said that they will have a WM7 phone in September 2010). HE then claims that those early WM7 mock ups we saw back in January 2008 are WM6.5 mock-ups (again WTF? The first page of the document has the Windows Mobile 7 logo that you can see at the top of this news and WM6.5 didn’t even exist back in 2007!). Finally, according to Eldar WM7 is a pale copy of Android 3.1/3.2 and the iPhone (so I guess he also had the chance to play with the future iPhone OS and Android 3.X ?) Check out the whole thing here:

[kabuk1]

No backwards compatibility- what a wonderful way to piss off your legacy customers! If this is true, count me out of this "upgrade". This would be an okay move if they offered WM7 alongside traditional WM, but not as a replacement. I'm not gonna give up the apps I've been using for years just to switch to something that's incompatible but *prettier*. New is NOT always better. I was a faithful Palm user for years until they switched to WebOS. I had hundreds of Palm apps that I loved & used daily, and I wasn't about to buy a device I couldn't use them with. Palm was a worthwhile offering until they abandoned Garnet, and now they're the lowest rung. I don't get why companies do stuff like this, most people don't like sweeping changes. Yeah, WM7 might be new & improved, but you have to learn a whole new OS & have to find alternatives to the apps you've used for years. Eff that. I don't like the way mobile software is going these days, I don't want all-touch interfaces & cloud storage & app stores. In my day, we had 10 different buttons surrounding our screens and 500mhz processors. We had to use a stylus for everything, and gosh-darnit WE LIKED IT!

~sigh~ I'm just old. I hate change.

[BenC]

I hated the stylus, but loved the simplicity. When the 5-way became the rage, productivity was so much better. The reasons I moved to WM: multi-tasking (a pain at times due to the loss of productivity and the once in a while loss of data), the loss of data when exiting applications (HanDBase especially) and the tendency to reset with problem applications). I currently use a Centro and because it is no longer my primary device, the customization I have done with it is zilch. HanDBase is stable with it.

Originally Posted by kabuk1

No backwards compatibility- what a wonderful way to piss off your legacy customers! If this is true, count me out of this "upgrade". This would be an okay move if they offered WM7 alongside traditional WM, but not as a replacement. I'm not gonna give up the apps I've been using for years just to switch to something that's incompatible but *prettier*. New is NOT always better. I was a faithful Palm user for years until they switched to WebOS. I had hundreds of Palm apps that I loved & used daily, and I wasn't about to buy a device I couldn't use them with. Palm was a worthwhile offering until they abandoned Garnet, and now they're the lowest rung. I don't get why companies do stuff like this, most people don't like sweeping changes. Yeah, WM7 might be new & improved, but you have to learn a whole new OS & have to find alternatives to the apps you've used for years. Eff that. I don't like the way mobile software is going these days, I don't want all-touch interfaces & cloud storage & app stores. In my day, we had 10 different buttons surrounding our screens and 500mhz processors. We had to use a stylus for everything, and gosh-darnit WE LIKED IT!

~sigh~ I'm just old. I hate change.

[Bulldog46208]

Originally Posted by kabuk1

No backwards compatibility- what a wonderful way to piss off your legacy customers! If this is true, count me out of this "upgrade". This would be an okay move if they offered WM7 alongside traditional WM, but not as a replacement. I'm not gonna give up the apps I've been using for years just to switch to something that's incompatible but *prettier*. New is NOT always better. I was a faithful Palm user for years until they switched to WebOS. I had hundreds of Palm apps that I loved & used daily, and I wasn't about to buy a device I couldn't use them with. Palm was a worthwhile offering until they abandoned Garnet, and now they're the lowest rung. I don't get why companies do stuff like this, most people don't like sweeping changes. Yeah, WM7 might be new & improved, but you have to learn a whole new OS & have to find alternatives to the apps you've used for years. Eff that. I don't like the way mobile software is going these days, I don't want all-touch interfaces & cloud storage & app stores. In my day, we had 10 different buttons surrounding our screens and 500mhz processors. We had to use a stylus for everything, and gosh-darnit WE LIKED IT!

~sigh~ I'm just old. I hate change.

Didn't Palm offer an emulator to run Palm OS Apps with the Palm Pre?

[champ052005]

I guarantee you that WM7 will be back words compatible. I think Microsoft learned their lesson when Vista had problems and consumers were mad. Same thing with WM7. Keep in mind, the reviewer had an early stage OS, it probably wasnt meant to do anything but show off the UI.

Just my two cents.

[spiritcrusher33]

but if they dont offer BC.. think bout it..how many devs are gonna jump to it in the beginning? It might be the palm pre all over again.. waiting and waiting for apps to appear..not sure bout u.. but im not gonna use a new phone and have to wait half a year for apps again... think bout the millions of wm programs out there,, and hacks,,, etc.. its gonna take along time to build that back up for wm 7... but this is ms so who knows..lol

they might just be throwing these rumors out there to get an idea of how people will react to change..

[DavidinCT]

I'd be shocked if they lose backwards compatibility. One of the major things about WM is the software, I'd bet if you searched out all applications that run on Windows Mobile (things from PocketPC 2000 +)I'd bet it would beat out the iphone list.

A bunch of them won't run due to display res but, most of them should and other minor issues but, over all most of them should run.

It's just like Windows... I still have on a CD (ripped from floppies), a Windows 3.1/95 Monopoly game, it was just very simple, small and it works. I installed it on Windows 7 the other day, guess what, it still works.

I'd deal with it if it happend but, would not be happy about having to rebuy all these apps (games, apps, etc)

[rorytmeadows]

Originally Posted by sprinttouch666

It sounds like Windows Mobile 7 has been built from scratch. I think that is a good thing interms of stability and speed, but we have to start over in developing apps lol. From the engaget article it sounds like 7 is still in a very early stage, which means we probably will not get a very good look at WMC in a month, and makes a 2010 launch seem unlikely

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/17/e...ime-incompati/

but on the bright side I read another article recently stating that HTC had a large part in developing WM7, which to me sounds epic

let me know what you guys think about the rebuilt from scratch vs no old apps reality (im pro rebuilt from scratch atm)

That guy has been dead wrong before, don't jump the gun.

[breakmyfootoff]

I think it's probably better for the OS to drop everything and move on the the next generation IF what they come with as a replacement is good. There were lots of apps for WM before, but damn, they were scattered haplessly all over the web.