Warez Vs. Tethering

[Genjinaro]

Yes. You're close but still wrong to say "everyone" falls under the hat.
Just like your OP, there are exception to the rule.

There is a grey area.

Its up to you to make sure you get your legal entitlements. I did & I will continue to excercise them to the fullest.

In your defence:

Its the cap there. Yes.

Is it for everyone? No.

Your poof is right there, clean as day. I clearly p***** the cap & I expect to do it next month.
Is what I'm getting fair? Ask Sprint...

[crazychef]

Originally Posted by Genjinaro

Yes. You're close but still wrong to say "everyone" falls under the hat.
Just like your OP, there are exception to the rule.

There is a grey area.

Its up to you to make sure you get your legal entitlements. I did & I will continue to excercise them to the fullest.

In your defence:

Its the cap there. Yes.

Is it for everyone? No.

Your poof is right there, clean as day. I clearly p***** the cap & I expect to do it next month.
Is what I'm getting fair? Ask Sprint...

um what plan holders doesnt it cover excatly??? can u show me proof that it doesnt affect every type of data usuage and plan.. because im pretty sure SPRINT SITE says Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem... is there another type of connection your arguing is available to use and also unaffected by the cap... remember links and visual proof, from sprints site, because apparently every website on the net other than sprint are wrong about sprint 5gb cap

[Genjinaro]

Originally Posted by crazychef

um what plan holders doesnt it cover excatly??? can u show me proof that it doesnt affect every type of data usuage and plan.. because im pretty sure SPRINT SITE says Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem... is there another type of connection your arguing is available to use and also unaffected by the cap... remember links and visual proof, from sprints site, because apparently every website on the net other than sprint are wrong about sprint 5gb cap

No there is no "special" connection type, its simply the unlimited service Sprint agreed to for the accounts.
Sprint cannot strip all account features, even those no offered anymore (ie: Sprint pick 3, no charge on roaming fee, Mobile 2 Home, etc,)

What accounts can have this happen? Id don't know honestly & I don't have to worry.

Ask exectutive services, honeslty I don't recall those that are after the July date, except for corporate/business accounts & pre exsisting, the latter is my account & the assurance from exective services.

Call them to get a better understanding. The business accounts without a doubt are not affected.

The TOS you're looking for would obviously not be available on a new account, they changed it.
It hovever did not change for all exsisting accounts. Again this is not universal.

Even the OT issue of the IS lock, it isn't universal.

My hard copy TOS, god knows where the hell that is, if I could pull history of passing the limit I would but hey, I can still post each month on; of me doing so.

5 months & no warning, none. No slow down no email propoganda encoraging, no call, no letter.

I trust only what I hear from executive services & hard copies, anything else is not official nor fully accurate.

Again you were close (so were the sources) but not completely right. You have a hard time grasping that.

[crazychef]

Originally Posted by Genjinaro

No there is no "special" connection type, its simply the unlimited service Sprint agreed to for the accounts.
Sprint cannot strip all account features, even those no offered anymore (ie: Sprint pick 3, no charge on roaming fee, Mobile 2 Home, etc,)

What accounts can have this happen? Id don't know honestly & I don't have to worry.

Ask exectutive services, honeslty I don't recall those that are after the July date, except for corporate/business accounts & pre exsisting, the latter is my account & the assurance from exective services.

Call them to get a better understanding. The business accounts without a doubt are not affected.

The TOS you're looking for would obviously not be available on a new account, they changed it.
It hovever did not change for all exsisting accounts. Again this is not universal.

Even the OT issue of the IS lock, it isn't universal.

My hard copy TOS, god knows where the hell that is, if I could pull history of passing the limit I would but hey, I can still post each month on; of me doing so.

5 months & no warning, none. No slow down no email propoganda encoraging, no call, no letter.

I trust only what I hear from executive services & hard copies, anything else is not official nor fully accurate.

Again you were close but not completely right. You have a hard time grasping that.

"sprint reserves the right to make changes to your plan, with or without our knowledge, im pretty sure the fine print will read..

and biz accounts, that exactly who the new AE plan with included PHONE as MOdem for 149.99 is for...and guess what 5gb cap.

your outdated TOS agreement in a little booklet that came with your phone may not mention this change but, no matter what data plan, service you use.. there is no true "unlimited everything" after july 08, all those website dog sprint for limiting the everything plan..

the fact is sprint can change your terms as they see fit, whenever they want, and without consequence.. and the first time you pay a bill after that change happens you are now agreeing to the new TOS agreement..

look at the cap their about to put on limiting asruion claims to 3 per 12 months period.. it even says "once you pay your bill, after those changes go into effect, your agreeeing to the new terms... your not gonna be grandfathered in so to speak under some old term you think your entitled to

[crazychef]

is this want u guys want? ICS hack may/ or not be stealing/supplying/ or cracking software.. but as i wanted to establish.. were still stealing period.. laws or no laws, cuz like coz said, noone has ever asked ppc "offically" to put up that notice, ppc did it on their own..

so just because noones asked this subject of thethering to be "offically" removed, why cant it also now become a seperate banned topic now as well, due to the fact we are stealing... and the point of warez is also about stealing.. so its 2 different topics, but the same basic principal as theft in both cases of warez and tethering..

so why cant the topics both be banned... ppc chose to make a stand against warez on their own, im asking them to stand against this on their own as well..

[Hafrust]

I'm pretty sure Coz already addressed it some posts back.

[crazychef]

yup he did, he informed us that an offical take down notice has never been issued for either the warez topic or the tethering topic... my point is they, willingly "try" to prevent anything about warez, not because someone told them they couldnt, but because its the right thing to do..

also he said : The bottom line is this site is always in a constant state of flux...the definition of warez is always changing...we, the staff and members, need to always be aware of what's going on. Things will always change and that change may result in certain discussions be removed.

why cant the laws possibly be changing towards the direction that includes my argument against unathorized tethering??

thats what im asking them to consider

[chris06]

here's my question (may be a little off topic)
So if youre trying to unlock the gps on a vzw touch pro (using a custom rom, reg edit, etc) wouldnt that be illegal considering the fact that vzw intentionally locked it because they offer their vzNavigator? (a service you have to pay for)

[crazychef]

Originally Posted by chris06

here's my question (may be a little off topic)
So if youre trying to unlock the gps on a vzw touch pro (using a custom rom, reg edit, etc) wouldnt that be illegal considering the fact that vzw intentionally locked it because they offer their vzNavigator? (a service you have to pay for)

no yur carrier chooses yur phone features in a sense.. in this case youd be talking about the radio.. anyone know if thats falls under htc?

your carrier can tell the manufacturer what they dnt want on they device they wish to brand.. like the FM feature possibly, maybe sorint didnt wanna deal with this so opted for it not to be avaible to us.. that no diff than blocking your ability to use GPS...

i know sprint atleast didnt offically unlock winmo ohones for gps usgage, until th 6.1 release... they had every right, not to allow us to use that feature

[Dr.8820]

i'm gonna try to get this thread back on track. i've never tethered before and just tried to do it. and it doesn't work. so if i use the ics hack which means i am going around not paying sprint $15/month for pam then how is ics not a ware?