Why is iPhone not considered a smartphone?

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by BooDaddy

Well USB is serial :P

well, not technically because it transfers more than one bit at a time.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by orangekid

well, not technically because it transfers more than one bit at a time.

Universal Serial Bus (USB) wich transfers via serial stream...aka same difference lol

[schettj]

Originally Posted by gTen

It actually makes a not to bad phone for elderly and little kids >.>

You can't sext with it, so it's no good for little kids. It's perfect for anyone who knows that Jitterbug is a dance, not an infestation in NYC. or at least they knew it before they got Alzheimer's.

[BooDaddy]

Originally Posted by orangekid

well, not technically because it transfers more than one bit at a time.

Heh... your kidding me right?

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by BooDaddy

Heh... your kidding me right?

there are different definitions of "serial port"

The old serial ports on our computers only transferred one bit at a time, as opposed to the multi-stream of bits things like USB and Firewire can transder, although the USB does have the word "serial" in it.

It's not exactly the same thing is all I was pointing out, I couldn't imagine people still used those old serial ports.

[schettj]

Originally Posted by orangekid

there are different definitions of "serial port"

The old serial ports on our computers only transferred one bit at a time, as opposed to the multi-stream of bits things like USB and Firewire can transder, although the USB does have the word "serial" in it.

It's not exactly the same thing is all I was pointing out, I couldn't imagine people still used those old serial ports.

Actually, it is exactly correct. USB has 4 connections. That would be 1RX 1TX power and ground. A wire can transmit 1 bit at a time. Guess what? We call that "Serial".

Serial always means bit at a time. SATA interfaces? One bit at a time. PATA? 8 (or 16 for wide pata) at a time. FireWire? 1 bit at a time.

Anything using 1 wire to transmit data is serial. Even if its really really fast, it's pushing 1 bit at a time.

[shaggylive]

the 'old' serial port is still needed for some xbox mod's

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by schettj

Actually, it is exactly correct. USB has 4 connections. That would be 1RX 1TX power and ground. A wire can transmit 1 bit at a time. Guess what? We call that "Serial".

Serial always means bit at a time. SATA interfaces? One bit at a time. PATA? 8 (or 16 for wide pata) at a time. FireWire? 1 bit at a time.

Anything using 1 wire to transmit data is serial. Even if its really really fast, it's pushing 1 bit at a time.

well I was under the idea that the old serial ports didn't transmit in a stream like USB and Firewire did, hence one reason for the speed difference, as well as the difference in bit transfers. I admit I'm no "Serial Port" expert and you probably know more about this specific subject as well as the specific lexicon that goes along with it.

The whole point of my comment was amazement that someone actually used the actual port known as "Serial Port" before USB and Firewire came standard in devices, however that translates into actual technical manifestations and semantics.

nomsayin?

[schettj]

Well, anyone who used a computer before 1996 had plenty of experience connecting modems (you know, those whacky things that connect your computer to your phone) scanners, printers, and whatnot via serial cables. Heck, you could even connect your TeleVideo terminal that way, so you could, you know, interact with your computer.

Ah, good times.

So, no, I and anyone else over 35 might not noyersayin'

[BooDaddy]

shoot man... I remember buying my first 2400 baud modem so I could get on the local BBS's and play Legend of the Red Dragon!!! I was a kid back then.
I also remember saving a crap ton of money to go out and buy a US Robotics 28.8 Sportster. Man those were the days!