Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?

[tracsportva]

I would love the evo, tried at 2 best buys and would not get them to budge on teh 199 price.
I think I am gonn a suck it up and get the optimus for free, and then trick it out for a while, like I did with my tp2....

I will get a new phone soon, prob get the evo once the dust has settled.

Ryan

[Oditius]

Originally Posted by tracsportva

I think I am gonn a suck it up and get the optimus for free, and then trick it out for a while, like I did with my tp2....
Ryan

My daughter has the LG Optimus S from Sprint. Personally I am not impressed. I have the HTC Desire from USCC, with it's 1ghz CPU and it is definatly faster than the 620mhz in the Optimus. Plus also the optimus doesn't have the Adobe Flash 10.1 on it either, and it isn't in the market for it. I know there is a way to install it, but it is a pain to do, I've tried several times but always fail. I would recomend you keep the TP2, I think with the tweeks I did on mine, it was probably faster than the Optimus. I love the Desire, but even with it being rooted and having a custom 2.2 rom on it, it no way can have anywhere near as many apps on it as my TP2 with the same 16gb SD card. At least don't go into a contract till you can afford a faster phone with more storage.

[boredandtattooed]

Day 2 with an Optimus and everythings great... it has the same GPU as the EVO, just a slower processor(600).... havent had one thing lag on it yet.. camera has no flash though.. and obviously the forward facing camera is on the Optimus T(TMO) and not the Optimus S(Sprint)...

But ANgry Birds runs fantastic.. Youtube looks beautiful(load times depend on your converage obviously)...Onscreen keyboard is nice and responsive... Live Wallpapers work extremly well also.... all-in-all, it will give you the FULL Android experience, without breaking your wallet right before christmas

[bigmain06]

I to am leaving the Touch Pro 2 and would like to know what's the best choice between the Epic and Evo...

[NSTar]

me 3 but I"m for a new gen phone. my tp2 is so f'd up now, I don't think I can wait...grrr

[chardog]

Originally Posted by Oditius

My daughter has the LG Optimus S from Sprint. Personally I am not impressed. I have the HTC Desire from USCC, with it's 1ghz CPU and it is definatly faster than the 620mhz in the Optimus. Plus also the optimus doesn't have the Adobe Flash 10.1 on it either, and it isn't in the market for it. I know there is a way to install it, but it is a pain to do, I've tried several times but always fail.

I would expect the desire to be faster, but how much faster is it really?

to put into perspective:

Recently, many phones that feature MSM7x27 or MSM7x25 processors have been released to the market. They are often marketed as low-end, featuring "only" 600MHz (for MSM7x27) or 528MHz (MSM7x25). Sounds pretty pathetic, right?

Not really.

If you only look at their clock speeds, 600/528MHz doesn't sound impressive. In fact, thats hardly an improvement over notoriously slow MSM7200 series processors used by HTC G1, Magic and Hero.

But there are some key differences:

Unlike MSM7200 series processors, MSM7x27/MSM7x25 are built for smartphones. The processor unit contains a floating point unit, a 400MHz modem processor, a 320MHz application DSP, and a real dedicated GPU to perform 3D accelerations and video encoding/decoding. Does it sound just like Qualcomm's high end Snapdragon processors?

You bet.

Lets look at some benchmark numbers for the phones that feature MSM7227:

..........

• HTC Legend (running Android 2.1): 392
• LG Optimus GT540 (running Android 1.5): 445

(Source: http://smartphonebenchmarks.com )

And the following are the phones that use the outdated MSM7200 series processors:

• HTC G1 (running Android 1.5): 181
• HTC Magic (running Android 1.5): 200
• HTC Hero (running Android 1.5): 201
• HTC Droid Eris (running Android 2.1): 211

(Source: http://smartphonebenchmarks.com )

As you can see, MSM7227 series phones are significantly faster! Why is that?

Lets look at what Quadrant benchmark measures:

• CPU
• Memory
• I/O
• 2D graphics
• 3D graphics

Quadrant benchmark application measures the overall performance of your phone. Given that the CPU component hardly received any improvement over MSM7200 series, it is natural to conclude that other areas received significant improvements. One area in particular, is the GPU. MSM7227 features a dedicated GPU called, Adreno 200. This is the SAME GPU that is found in the first generation Snapdragon processors!

Now lets look at the high-performing first generation Snapdragon based phones:

• Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 (running Android 1.6): 465
• Dell Streak (running Android 1.6): 469
• Nexus One (running Android 2.1): 507
• HTC EVO (running Android 2.1): 510
• HTC Desire (running Android 2.1): 510
• HTC Droid Incredible (running Android 2.1): 574

As you can see, although they are faster than MSM7227 phones, not that much faster!

And then there's the screen resolution. Typical Snapdragon phones use 800x480 screen resolution, while most of the MSM7227 phones use 320x480. That's less than half the amount of pixels MSM7227 has to process through. The result? Surprisingly snappy performance out of "lowly" 528MHz/600MHz processor!

There are still some open questions. Snapdragon processors received huge boost in speed when they switched to Android 2.2 (i.e. JIT). Will MSM7227 be able to perform with similar margin of improvements despite featuring somewhat slow (i.e. same as MSM7200 series) CPU core? We will find out soon when we start to receive results for MSM7227 phones with Froyo.

Some current/future phones to use MSM7227 include the following:

• LG Optmimus GT540
• HTC Legend
• Motorola Citrus
• LG Optimus One series (inc. Optimus S and T)

I would recomend you keep the TP2, I think with the tweeks I did on mine, it was probably faster than the Optimus. I love the Desire, but even with it being rooted and having a custom 2.2 rom on it, it no way can have anywhere near as many apps on it as my TP2 with the same 16gb SD card. At least don't go into a contract till you can afford a faster phone with more storage.

The TP2 has great flexibility, but it's a slow phone, and not nearly as fast as the optimus, I dont care how many tweaks or overclocking you do, it's just not happening. The benchmarks speak for themselves, and if the OP isnt convinced by an article, go into your sprint store and play with it for an hour. I would use the browser extensively and open full web pages when possible, and compare it to your TP2. You'll be amazed how much faster the optimus really is. Opening apps, scrolling through pages, ect. It's a very snappy experience in general, which is reminiscent of the iphones. Scrolling is probably even smoother than the evo(stock).

I dont know why you are comparing apps, it's a widely accepted fact that the android market is bigger than the wm platform.

I think today is the last day to order the optimus s from sprint for free.

One huge advantage it has over the premium phones is the battery life. I can get nearly two full days on my setup, but I have a very tricked out setup which automates a lot of processes, like automatically jump on know wifi networks when possible based on gps location. Evo's/epics have notoriously bad battery life, but I guess the screen makes up for that inconvenience.

I've had my LG for less than a week, and I love this phone. it's easily the best phone I've ever owned.

it does have a few concerning flaws though, no led notifications, no led flash, and photos in 4:3 aspect ratio (though they are decent in quality). Cant select all emails/mark as read.

[rockruleslp]

im also wanting to upgrade my TP2... but ppl at my work already have the evo and i want a phone that they dont have yet... lol...