Android = SPAM... New Evo/Android users be warned - Page 3

**boredandtattooed** · #1 (**permalink**) 05-23-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by edub186

Iphone free aps have mad ads. It dont affect anything. It not like things will just randomly pop up on your screen outside of the free app that you downloaded

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Originally Posted by Meanee

Ads on mobile platform? STOP THE PRESSES!!!

You haven't used any apps before, haven't you? All free, and some paid apps usually have some sort of ads in them. On iPod's App Store, there are bunch of premium, ad supported apps that cost nothing to you, but you get an ad once in a while. Developers need to make money somehow too.

There always will be ads on anything popular. Mobile platforms, TV, billboards. They even installed ads in a subway tunnel in NY, as train moves, ad moves with you. So remove your tinfoil hat and accept it.

were not talking about iCrap products now are we.. ads are something you dont see in winmo apps

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Originally Posted by elephant007

Bored, thank you for pointing this out for users that are new to Android. I think though that no matter which smartphone you use, you will still be in the same situation (iPhone, WinMo, Android, Blackberry, etc...)

Edit:
SPAM is unsolicited ads/emails
Since we are agreeing to the terms of use by installing the free/paid software, we are in essence agreeing to receive the adds we see. So since we agree to receive ads in order to receive free apps, this means the ads aren't SPAM.

tell me some winmo apps that have ads, cuz i use about 70 different cabs, apps, games, and utilities on mine and never do i have an ad thats attached to the bottom bar of my screen the whole time im in that app..

someguysmms had a nag screen, which was just a 10 second wait between screens or however it was..

i used elecont back in the day on a trial and when it ended it remined you eery 3 uses to upgrade..

SKTools.. trial gives you only a few options.. doesnt give you ads..

WMWifiRouter.. 30 day trial.. no ads during that trial..

SPB MObile Shell.. has a trial.. dont think i saw ads when i tried it..

should i keep going?? winmo is not know for ads so i dont know why anyone would say they are.. trials and limitations on what a free version will do, sure, absolutely understandable and justify-able...

but puting an ad in a free app just for the sake of saying "hey, it was free, so you cant complain", well that just doesnt seem like anyone has my best interest in mind...

and i do agree with elephants *edit* - i know that by downloading it your saying its ok... i get that..

im saying why though.. its not some apps.. its every free app... how many free things you have on your winmo devices guys??? how many of them have ads?? please tell me..

im just saying until i toyed around with android on my TP2, i had no clue.. because its NOT like this on winmo at all... winmo apps limit usually.. android/google adware you.. thats a big difference

**apristel** · #2 (**permalink**) 05-23-2010, 05:11 PM

90% of the WM apps you install are probably the real versions that were found on warez sites

But I do agree WM has way less ads then anything else.

**boredandtattooed** · #3 (**permalink**) 05-23-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by apristel

90% of the WM apps you install are probably the real versions that were found on warez sites

But I do agree WM has way less ads then anything else.

i disagree... tell me, show me, link me, screenshot, to winmo apps with ads..please, id love to see them.. because they dont.. winmo and MS dont do that.. i dont have any warez anywhere on my phone, never have, never will.. i even paid for WMWifiRouter back when it was still $30 bucks.. everything i get comes from our own PPCG, freewarepocketpc.net, XDA, or ever occassionally from 1800pocketpc.. and nothing ever has any ads..

id love to be wrong here guys, just show me though, because winmo doesnt have the whole adware compaign going on that Android does

Munroe · #4 (**permalink**) 05-23-2010, 06:06 PM

not sure this needs to be discussed as much as simply suggesting adblock. People can react ( which is negative ) or respond ( Positive ) to the informative information you're giving. Thanks for that, since I Had NO idea that the android platform applications are going to have ads. I dont care either way though, im so excited for the EVO and I am a WinMo person right now, so I'm a complete n00b when it comes to android apps.

Everyone will always find a reason to complain. Evo and everything that comes with it is not that reason.

**Cicatrize** · #5 (**permalink**) 05-23-2010, 08:07 PM

I'd rather have free apps with ads than pay for them. The ads are really not all that distracting. As for the keyboard thing...I've never heard that. Weird.

**orangekid** · #6 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 09:20 AM

MS may not have ads on winmo like iPhone and Android.

But let's see how well MS is doing in the mobile OS platform these days. I wouldn't take MS as the paragon for anything right now. They are trying to turn into some freakish ugly mutant stepchild of Android and iPhone OS.

I agree with you to some extent on the ads, but frankly Android has so much more to offer than WM that it's a minor annoyance at worst, and there are ways to handle/disable it.

**BlackDynamite** · #7 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 09:44 AM

WinMo has free apps that are ad supported too. For example, go to the Windows Marketplace and install Mo Tweets. There is a paid version and an ad supported free version.

By the way, AdBlock says "AdBlock blocks HTTP requests. It may be used for blocking unwanted ads on webpages.
It will NOT block ads in apps."

So I don't think it will stop the ads in apps...

http://www.appbrain.com/app/de.ub0r.android.adBlock

**bradart** · #8 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 02:46 PM

I know a lot of this has been answered already, but i have quite a bit of Android knowledge and would like to clarify:

1) The keyboard thing:

The android sdk and libraries REQUIRE that message to pop-up every single time you install a new keyboard. It is simply a warning that states that you better trust the source of the keyboard, because it could POTENTIALLY be used maliciously to log your information. As far as i know, there has never been such an issue thus far. Again, this is simply a WARNING that the operating system itself REQUIRES be presented to you upon installation of a keyboard.

2) Ads:

Android works a lot like iPhone in the way it handles apps and marketplace stuff. A lot of android apps are made by companies. Companies that like money. I can say with 100% honesty, that i have never found an app that has ads that i would consider to be intrusive. 9 times out of 10, i completely don't notice the ads are there. Its actually a very good system, because the devs make money and, therefore, are motivated to make more apps. If you pay for an app to remove the ads, they make money on that also, and you get more features.

Let me also state that Android is FREE. FREE as in beer. Manufacturers don't pay a single cent to put it onto a phone. A license to use windows mobile is CRAZY EXPENSIVE. I'm alright with the ads, because this free operating system makes it much more accessible to developement. Thats my 2 cents.

**boredandtattooed** · #9 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

WinMo has free apps that are ad supported too. For example, go to the Windows Marketplace...

who the heck uses the marketplace lol, there less than 900 apps.. MS MArketplace is a joke

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Originally Posted by bradart

2) Ads:

Android works a lot like iPhone in the way it handles apps and marketplace stuff. A lot of android apps are made by companies. Companies that like money. I can say with 100% honesty, that i have never found an app that has ads that i would consider to be intrusive. 9 times out of 10, i completely don't notice the ads are there. Its actually a very good system, because the devs make money and, therefore, are motivated to make more apps. If you pay for an app to remove the ads, they make money on that also, and you get more features.

Let me also state that Android is FREE. FREE as in beer. Manufacturers don't pay a single cent to put it onto a phone. A license to use windows mobile is CRAZY EXPENSIVE. I'm alright with the ads, because this free operating system makes it much more accessible to developement. Thats my 2 cents.

1) then whats iPhones excuse for their ads since their OS isnt free?

2) right... a FREE PLATFORM, that people are tryign to get rich from by placing ads/allowing ads in their apps...
just shows that Free, doesnt actually mean free... and Devs dont really care about their craft anymore, they just want money..

its like the famous "Earl Scheib discount paint job"... sure its damn near free.. but then they charge you to tape the doors, tape the windows, tape your door handles, etc... and its 1800 bucks before your done.. just like Android, OS is FREE but if you want things without Ads, itll cost ya a feww 100bucks by time your done..

its fine im still getting the phone... just saying it isnt neccessary.. its all just to generate more money... nothing to do with giving a rats @ss about the end users experience.. not caring about the end user is a big deal, atleast it should be...

and theres little to NO ads on winmo, so please people stp bringing it up

**bradart** · #10 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by boredandtattooed

who the heck uses the marketplace lol, there less than 900 apps.. MS MArketplace is a joke

1) then whats iPhones excuse for their ads since their OS isnt free?

2) right... a FREE PLATFORM, that people are tryign to get rich from by placing ads/allowing ads in their apps...
just shows that Free, doesnt actually mean free... and Devs dont really care about their craft anymore, they just want money..

its like the famous "Earl Scheib discount paint job"... sure its damn near free.. but then they charge you to tape the doors, tape the windows, tape your door handles, etc... and its 1800 bucks before your done.. just like Android, OS is FREE but if you want things without Ads, itll cost ya a feww 100bucks by time your done..

its fine im still getting the phone... just saying it isnt neccessary.. its all just to generate more money... nothing to do with giving a rats @ss about the end users experience.. not caring about the end user is a big deal, atleast it should be...

and theres little to NO ads on winmo, so please people stp bringing it up

Name one developer who has gotten rich off of an android app. Better yet, find me one single dev that doesn't doesn't work a full time job on the side.

Dude, it takes time and money to develop an app. Being a developer takes time and skill. Android/devs are ALL ABOUT the user experience, and i find it damn near offensive that you are taking such an ignorant, pissy standpoint because of .25 inches of words you didn't expect on your screen. Get the hell over it. If you don't want to pay for apps for no ads, deal with it. The apps, whether ad supported or not, a f***ing awesome and do their job very well. If you like no ads and a shitty user experience, stick with windows. If you want to bitch about stuff, get an iPhone. You don't know shit about android or how the, you know, ECONOMY works. Somebody get a mod to close this thread. The questions have been answered and he wants to keep all his money in his training bra instead of giving it to talented developers.