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Wait, so how is build number 23541 6.5.5, and the higher build number, 28014 is 6.5.3? Man, I'm confused...
Anyway, I've been on Energy for the past several months, but since he doesn't actually have a Diamond to test with, there's been a number of lingering bugs. I've got a few questions about this one before I try to flash (partly to decide which version I even want to flash..) Right now I'm on 28014 with Sense 2.1 (EnergyROM), and I'd say that it's reasonably stable, but the few bugs I've got are starting to irritate me more and more. So question 1... are these bugs present in OMJ's ROM? * The volume rocker works even if the device is locked * In call volume always defaults to middle, does not remember setting * The HTC SMS app won't show all of my messages (but the All Messages button that launches the Windows SMS app does) * The lock screen thinks I still have an appointment (on the next day) after an appointment has passed * Occasionally unlocking my phone will drop me to the dialer and dial * (I have no idea why, and it's inconsistent) Next question... has Sense 2.5 gotten any better on the Diamond? The last time I tried it, there were noticeable problems that looked to mostly stem from trying to port it to VGA. For example, it was impossible to set the Twitter update settings to the lowest value because the menu would be off the bottom of the screen, or quick launch icons on the home screen would be cut off (doesn't look to be an issue from the screenshots on page 1). Lastly, what's the difference between Sense 2.5 and 2.5 2012? I assume 2012 is a newer build, but what's changed? Is it worth it? |
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The difference between 2.5 and 2.5 2012 is that 2.5 was designed for new phones, and the 2012 version was designed more specifically for the Diamond spec'd phones. The 2012 tends to run lil faster. There are a few quirks on 2012, but overall usability has been great. The difference 23xxx vs 28xxx is not that the 28xxx is higher number, its just the series of the builds. Actually 23xxx is newer, and has threaded emails, you'll have to see it to understand. If you want the most stable build I would recommend the Sense 2.5 2012 | 6.5.3 | 28014 | v1.2, which I had been using for a long time and works very smooth. Of course a lot of people do like the Sense 2.1 because it is a lil faster in speed. Down fall of the 2012 and the 6.5.5 is that Manilla Locker has not been ported over yet. |
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Can you tell me if you've noticed any of the bugs I listed above with the OMJ ROMs? As for Manila Locker, based on the name I'm guessing it provides similar functionality to SmartLock (neat, it's been updated since I last checked!). Is there any known compatibility issue with just using that instead?
What are some of the 2012 quirks? |
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*The volume rocker does work when the device is locked. * In call volume setting does persist across calls for me. * I don't SMS so I'm no help on that one. * I haven't noticed the lock screen calendar issue, but my device lock only kicks in after 24 hours (and when rebooting or connecting to a pc). * As previously mentioned, I don't use the lock screen regularly but I've never had it drop me into the dialer upon an unlock. |
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AGPS = ability to get an instant ballpark position as soon as you open Google Maps GPS = choose use GPS and then after 5-10 seconds it will connect and get a more accuratae location |
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1) Using information known to the assistance server but not the GPS receiver 2) Calculation of position by the server using information from the GPS receiver http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS I'm sure that type 1 AGPS is working even in the newer builds. If it wasn't then it would take between 40 seconds and 10 minuets to get a GPS lock. I can often get a GPS lock (4-10 satellites) within 5-10 seconds when I'm standing outside or near a window. QuickGPS is a form of AGPS, when it downloads the GPS ephemeris data, it allows our devices to get the quick 5-10 seconds GPS lock. The problem with the newer builds is that BEFORE the GPS can get a lock, the older builds would allow a rough estimate of your location based on Tower ID (I assume it's tower ID). Try it for yourself, flash Sense 2.5 6.5.3 28014 v1.6 and DO NOT ENABLE GPS in google maps, it will still give you a rough location (within 1000m). If you disable GPS in google maps on the newer ROM builds, it wont give you any location at all. Maybe OMJ could shed some light onto this, perhaps some of the HTC packages geo location packages were updated between these ROMs? |
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Ok..this is off topic. But what are the difference btw 28XXX and 21XXX. I know someone mentioned that 28xxx is supposed to be more stable, but how about it compared to the 21877. Dose the 23xxx resemble more of the 28xxx or 21877. (WOW...thats a lot xxx)...lol
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21xxx (6.5) - Start buttons on top of screen, most stable and fast 28xxx (6.5.x) - Start button on bottom of screen, decently stable 23xxx (6.5.x) - Start button on bottom of screen, most unstable with threaded emails Sense runs on top of most of these builds, so in a sense, Sense 2.1/2.5 are separate from the Builds. |
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I finally figured out how to make my AGPS work. I am using the latest ROM OMJ released (the 6.5.5 one) with Google Maps 4.0 installed to the storage card. I also had that Aloqa program installed. I ran the Aloqa program first and it uses GPS and Wifi/CellID so it turns on your wifi and data connection. I turned off the GPS function and it still found my location. I then went to Google Maps and it found my location with no GPS turned on. My Location in Sense actually found my weather location too for the first time ever. The kicker seems to be the Wifi. It has to be turned on to work, but NOT necessarily connected to anything, just on. I have no idea why this is but if I turn wifi off, I get no location. |
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I just did a little experiment, I disabled the EVDO connection and the phone's radio by turning on flight mode, and then only enabled WiFi but didn't connect, and google still gets my location to within 90m. So how the heck is Google Maps getting my location with only the WiFi radio turned on but not connected to any network? Wtf? EDIT: Ok, I think I was a little too excited there, lol. I cleared Google's cache by reseting it from the menu and ran the same procedure, this time it could not locate me, so I think it was pulling my location from the cache. In other words it still requires an ACTIVE network connection to locate you without GPS. EDIT 2: If you disable WiFi with Google Maps open, my location will cease to function (it will still show your location, but will not update). Re-Enabling Wifi will restore my location's updates. Here's some info about "my location" from Google: Quote:
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The volume while locked thing is annoying, but I've dealt with it long enough that I'm used to it by now. The in call volume reset is by far the most annoying thing, so glad to see that's working. Based on all I've read here, it looks like 28014 / Sense 2.1 is the best one for me until some more things are ported over/fixed in Sense 2.5 2012 (most importantly QuickLinks mod). I'll give it a go either tonight or sometime tomorrow. Thanks for all the replies! |
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OMJ:
I have a request/suggestion for a useful app Sound an alarm when you walk away with your diamond and the stylus is not in the holder, or maybe even an electrical shock to get your attention I was setting some stuff up on my diamond when someone came to the door, I set my stuff down, went to the door, grabbed my diamond and left with my friend, noticed I left the stylus at home, when I got back, no where to be found An alarm or an electrical shock would be a great improvement, and I guarantee that when I get a chance to order a new one (this was my 3rd backup and hadn't ordered additional backups), that when they arrive, I will find it was wondering, I started a new job that's about a 45 minute drive, I like watching CNN in the morning, I noticed that PMD has a rom (using your kitchen) and he has mobile tv on the tabs, I haven't noticed this on any other rom and doesn't look like there is any download for an add on to another rom, since he is using your kitchen/rom, anyway you can sweet talk him into giving you the info so you could add this feature to your rom? or do you know of a comparable solution to be able to do this? I guess since I'm driving I could see if I could just find an audio stream since I am just listening to it I tried his rom just to see what the tv looked like, while that's a nice feature, your rom still kicks some... well, you know what!! |
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I just wish I could find something comparable for my gf's Touch Pro 2. |
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You can.........trash her TP and get her a diamond! |
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EDIT: Damm, to quick my idea is not worthly, google maps get no direction guide in my area, Damm it!! Anyway, I remmenber how Palm Treos user complain about "MAPS" doesn't work until A-GPS is working (which it will not work if you are off a cdma area, as a highway without mobil signal or a rural area without CDMA, which make a PAIN IN THE ASS the DEPENDECNY to A-GPS signal for PALM TREOS. but also if my memory doesn't fail I don't remmeber they complain about "MAPS" eating the Battery Life. Any old "Palm Treo" here?? So I guess there is no Perfect World. OMJ, Talking about perfect world, I was watching last HTC releases and I get this thought (don't worry asking nothig to you, indeed is for HTC developers but have no clue where to make them reach this idea as they said in Barcelona they listen to their clients). So, I like (haven't try but the idea looks great) the new "seven-screen ‘Leap’ thumbnail view" (for quick/easy access to specific screens). Yeah I now we don't have android but this can be "HTC Tab Switch "LEAP"". Imaging this: no more "TAB ROW" to scroll (anyway you can SCROLL TABs without using the bottom ROW) , I know everyone first time like use HTC Tabs row but after a while, after "NEWISH" effect, it stop and you start realize it is not so quick to go from tab one to tab nine, so "HTC TABS row" are not the heaven. Even more, Maybe I'm just imagine this but maybe if you analize better the HTC MINI HD video you can see no more "start button" soft key and "X" soft key. We don't have all it hard button but something similar to "AEButtonPlus" can help. So we can forgot of "start button" soft key and "X" soft key, so again more free space and ROW more thin. Finally it only lack that they replace "HTC TABS ROW" (I mean no more this row) with "HTC TAB SWITCH "LEAP"" and VoilĂ*, Magnific, Bravo!!! In Wish there are no SIN, but I know I left my imagination fly sometimes, also I hate HTC MINI HD resolution 320X480 HVGA, it could be so easy if it was VGA or even WVGA, but again our screen are not perfect and evolution cames naturaly. Best Regards Sabroso. |
Re: OMJ's HTC Sense 2.5 & 2.1 ROMs | WM 6.5 / WM 6.5.x | 21055 / 21887 / 23541 | 2/26
has anyone tried the new HD mini lockscreen from HTC? it was ported to VGA here . It's not too bad, maybe alittle better than the WM lockscreen.....here's a SS:
http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...z/Screen01.png to change the background pic (which the default is solid grey), take any 480x640 image, rename to nero.png, and copy to \windows. there's also another slider posted in that thread that is more transparent. |
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Which version do you use VGA or WVGA? |
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The latest 6.5.5 rom is great!! Super Fast and the font is really easy to read, lol
I installed the HD Mini lockscreen, its really good, does anyone know of a good program to autolock the phone when you press the power button? |
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A bit of a naive question for anyone...how do you update a program such as Opera that's cooked into a ROM with a newer version. Tried with regular cab but that doesn't seem to work.
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I use this for my wife's Diamond. I wish I could find a ROM/chef like this for MY TP2! I use Energy ROM with basically the same versions, but I like this much better. Tastes great, less filling.
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I've been using the HD Mini locker, and it works pretty good. As good as the default WM locker. |
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OMJ....love your work! The SMS seems a little sluggish even both keyboards (i am using the FNG KB currently). Any cabs or edits available to make it run smoothly?
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the mini locker seems pretty nice..two things i noticed (running custom 2012 6.5.5 rom). The slide motion is hardly there. it unlocks it when you swipe/slide down but no animation/motion shown. also, it doesn't lock the volume keys.
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For those who cannot get AGPS or My Location to work please check the Google Mobile Maps About page. If the second from the last line shows "myl: N/A", add the following reg keys:
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Re: OMJ's HTC Sense 2.5 & 2.1 ROMs | WM 6.5 / WM 6.5.x | 21055 / 21887 / 23541 | 2/26
So is the GPS issue sorted out in the latest build?
I havent updated for about a month now. |
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Thank you very much for posting this info! On a different note, I see you are a Bell user, what Radio are you using? |
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