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brc64 03-03-2010 12:49 PM

Re: OMJ's HTC Sense 2.5 & 2.1 ROMs | WM 6.5 / WM 6.5.x | 21055 / 21887 / 23541 | 2/26
 
Wait, so how is build number 23541 6.5.5, and the higher build number, 28014 is 6.5.3? Man, I'm confused...

Anyway, I've been on Energy for the past several months, but since he doesn't actually have a Diamond to test with, there's been a number of lingering bugs. I've got a few questions about this one before I try to flash (partly to decide which version I even want to flash..)

Right now I'm on 28014 with Sense 2.1 (EnergyROM), and I'd say that it's reasonably stable, but the few bugs I've got are starting to irritate me more and more. So question 1... are these bugs present in OMJ's ROM?

* The volume rocker works even if the device is locked
* In call volume always defaults to middle, does not remember setting
* The HTC SMS app won't show all of my messages (but the All Messages button that launches the Windows SMS app does)
* The lock screen thinks I still have an appointment (on the next day) after an appointment has passed
* Occasionally unlocking my phone will drop me to the dialer and dial * (I have no idea why, and it's inconsistent)

Next question... has Sense 2.5 gotten any better on the Diamond? The last time I tried it, there were noticeable problems that looked to mostly stem from trying to port it to VGA. For example, it was impossible to set the Twitter update settings to the lowest value because the menu would be off the bottom of the screen, or quick launch icons on the home screen would be cut off (doesn't look to be an issue from the screenshots on page 1).

Lastly, what's the difference between Sense 2.5 and 2.5 2012? I assume 2012 is a newer build, but what's changed? Is it worth it?

bugzy 03-03-2010 01:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brc64 (Post 1603794)
Wait, so how is build number 23541 6.5.5, and the higher build number, 28014 is 6.5.3? Man, I'm confused...

Anyway, I've been on Energy for the past several months, but since he doesn't actually have a Diamond to test with, there's been a number of lingering bugs. I've got a few questions about this one before I try to flash (partly to decide which version I even want to flash..)

Right now I'm on 28014 with Sense 2.1 (EnergyROM), and I'd say that it's reasonably stable, but the few bugs I've got are starting to irritate me more and more. So question 1... are these bugs present in OMJ's ROM?

* The volume rocker works even if the device is locked
* In call volume always defaults to middle, does not remember setting
* The HTC SMS app won't show all of my messages (but the All Messages button that launches the Windows SMS app does)
* The lock screen thinks I still have an appointment (on the next day) after an appointment has passed
* Occasionally unlocking my phone will drop me to the dialer and dial * (I have no idea why, and it's inconsistent)

Next question... has Sense 2.5 gotten any better on the Diamond? The last time I tried it, there were noticeable problems that looked to mostly stem from trying to port it to VGA. For example, it was impossible to set the Twitter update settings to the lowest value because the menu would be off the bottom of the screen, or quick launch icons on the home screen would be cut off (doesn't look to be an issue from the screenshots on page 1).

Lastly, what's the difference between Sense 2.5 and 2.5 2012? I assume 2012 is a newer build, but what's changed? Is it worth it?

I have used both NRG and OMJ's ROM's for Sense 2.1 and 2.5, and I have been very happy with both, but settled on using OMJ.

The difference between 2.5 and 2.5 2012 is that 2.5 was designed for new phones, and the 2012 version was designed more specifically for the Diamond spec'd phones. The 2012 tends to run lil faster. There are a few quirks on 2012, but overall usability has been great.

The difference 23xxx vs 28xxx is not that the 28xxx is higher number, its just the series of the builds. Actually 23xxx is newer, and has threaded emails, you'll have to see it to understand.

If you want the most stable build I would recommend the Sense 2.5 2012 | 6.5.3 | 28014 | v1.2, which I had been using for a long time and works very smooth. Of course a lot of people do like the Sense 2.1 because it is a lil faster in speed.

Down fall of the 2012 and the 6.5.5 is that Manilla Locker has not been ported over yet.

brc64 03-03-2010 01:45 PM

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Can you tell me if you've noticed any of the bugs I listed above with the OMJ ROMs? As for Manila Locker, based on the name I'm guessing it provides similar functionality to SmartLock (neat, it's been updated since I last checked!). Is there any known compatibility issue with just using that instead?

What are some of the 2012 quirks?

apinkel 03-03-2010 02:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brc64 (Post 1603794)
* The volume rocker works even if the device is locked
* In call volume always defaults to middle, does not remember setting
* The HTC SMS app won't show all of my messages (but the All Messages button that launches the Windows SMS app does)
* The lock screen thinks I still have an appointment (on the next day) after an appointment has passed
* Occasionally unlocking my phone will drop me to the dialer and dial * (I have no idea why, and it's inconsistent)

I'm running OMJ's 28014 Sense 2.1 build.
*The volume rocker does work when the device is locked.
* In call volume setting does persist across calls for me.
* I don't SMS so I'm no help on that one.
* I haven't noticed the lock screen calendar issue, but my device lock only kicks in after 24 hours (and when rebooting or connecting to a pc).
* As previously mentioned, I don't use the lock screen regularly but I've never had it drop me into the dialer upon an unlock.

donky353 03-03-2010 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brc64 (Post 1603937)
Can you tell me if you've noticed any of the bugs I listed above with the OMJ ROMs? As for Manila Locker, based on the name I'm guessing it provides similar functionality to SmartLock (neat, it's been updated since I last checked!). Is there any known compatibility issue with just using that instead?

What are some of the 2012 quirks?

SmartLock works fine, i had it running for a little while but it seemed to lag a little bit so i turned it off. It is defiantly not as good as the manila locker but it will work if you need a lock screen. Hopefully the manila locker will be ported soon because the latest ROM and manila version is by far my favorite

manekineko 03-03-2010 05:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mmmdieselfumes (Post 1603271)
Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.80 (Windows Mobile; WCE; Opera Mobi/WMD-50369; U; en) Presto/2.4.13 Version/10.00)

You know, my googlemaps v4 and mylocation works just dandy in the newest build. GM doesn't lock instantly anymore, maybe 5 seconds, but it does get 10 sats. And my weather updates perfectly, even when on the road.

What you're describing is that AGPS isn't working on your Google Maps either. At this point, it's looking pretty certain it doesn't work on anyone's using the newer builds.

AGPS = ability to get an instant ballpark position as soon as you open Google Maps
GPS = choose use GPS and then after 5-10 seconds it will connect and get a more accuratae location

bobram 03-03-2010 05:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by manekineko (Post 1604413)
What you're describing is that AGPS isn't working on your Google Maps either. At this point, it's looking pretty certain it doesn't work on anyone's using the newer builds.

AGPS = ability to get an instant ballpark position as soon as you open Google Maps
GPS = choose use GPS and then after 5-10 seconds it will connect and get a more accuratae location

There are 2 types of AGPS:

1) Using information known to the assistance server but not the GPS receiver
2) Calculation of position by the server using information from the GPS receiver
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

I'm sure that type 1 AGPS is working even in the newer builds. If it wasn't then it would take between 40 seconds and 10 minuets to get a GPS lock. I can often get a GPS lock (4-10 satellites) within 5-10 seconds when I'm standing outside or near a window. QuickGPS is a form of AGPS, when it downloads the GPS ephemeris data, it allows our devices to get the quick 5-10 seconds GPS lock.

The problem with the newer builds is that BEFORE the GPS can get a lock, the older builds would allow a rough estimate of your location based on Tower ID (I assume it's tower ID). Try it for yourself, flash Sense 2.5 6.5.3 28014 v1.6 and DO NOT ENABLE GPS in google maps, it will still give you a rough location (within 1000m). If you disable GPS in google maps on the newer ROM builds, it wont give you any location at all.

Maybe OMJ could shed some light onto this, perhaps some of the HTC packages geo location packages were updated between these ROMs?

Kundi4523 03-03-2010 05:48 PM

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Ok..this is off topic. But what are the difference btw 28XXX and 21XXX. I know someone mentioned that 28xxx is supposed to be more stable, but how about it compared to the 21877. Dose the 23xxx resemble more of the 28xxx or 21877. (WOW...thats a lot xxx)...lol

fr3sh_t0_d3f 03-03-2010 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kundi4523 (Post 1604464)
Ok..this is off topic. But what are the difference btw 28XXX and 21XXX. I know someone mentioned that 28xxx is supposed to be more stable, but how about it compared to the 21877. Dose the 23xxx resemble more of the 28xxx or 21877. (WOW...thats a lot xxx)...lol

28xxx is 6.5.x and 21xxx is 6.5. 23xxx is 6.5.x also. the 6.5 builds are always more stable but the 6.5.x builds show the latest and greatest work coming from microsoft

bugzy 03-03-2010 06:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fr3sh_t0_d3f (Post 1604526)
28xxx is 6.5.x and 21xxx is 6.5. 23xxx is 6.5.x also. the 6.5 builds are always more stable but the 6.5.x builds show the latest and greatest work coming from microsoft

Basic break down

21xxx (6.5) - Start buttons on top of screen, most stable and fast
28xxx (6.5.x) - Start button on bottom of screen, decently stable
23xxx (6.5.x) - Start button on bottom of screen, most unstable with threaded emails

Sense runs on top of most of these builds, so in a sense, Sense 2.1/2.5 are separate from the Builds.

Plutonium0587 03-03-2010 08:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by manekineko (Post 1604413)
What you're describing is that AGPS isn't working on your Google Maps either. At this point, it's looking pretty certain it doesn't work on anyone's using the newer builds.

AGPS = ability to get an instant ballpark position as soon as you open Google Maps
GPS = choose use GPS and then after 5-10 seconds it will connect and get a more accuratae location


I finally figured out how to make my AGPS work. I am using the latest ROM OMJ released (the 6.5.5 one) with Google Maps 4.0 installed to the storage card. I also had that Aloqa program installed. I ran the Aloqa program first and it uses GPS and Wifi/CellID so it turns on your wifi and data connection. I turned off the GPS function and it still found my location. I then went to Google Maps and it found my location with no GPS turned on. My Location in Sense actually found my weather location too for the first time ever. The kicker seems to be the Wifi. It has to be turned on to work, but NOT necessarily connected to anything, just on. I have no idea why this is but if I turn wifi off, I get no location.

OMJ 03-03-2010 08:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MOCEANWU (Post 1603039)
My phone is Diamond CDMA , The attachment of 6.5NK from the Touch Pro CDMA , I use it to build my cdma diamond rom, It is working well, except of "pull out the stylus can't wake up the screen"

I use your kitchen,replace the nk.exe


thx, I'll have to try it out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobram (Post 1603056)
Alright so I just flashed "Sense 2.5 6.5.3 28014 v1.6" and after enabling the location service, I can confirm that Google maps is behaving as I described above. When I open google maps, without enabling gps (default is off), it instantly shows my location within 1000m. The exact version is 3.2.1 (#16).

Now whether it does this because a) it's cooked into the rom, b) it's version specific, c) some other ROM issue, - I don't know. Hopefully someone can figure this out. Does anyone have a cab for Google Maps 3.2.1 (#16)? That way I could install it on the most recent ROM and see if the functionality is there (then we know it's the specific version granting us this function).


EDIT: Ok I found version 3.2.1 (#17)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...9&postcount=13

and it has the same functionality on the "Sense 2.5 6.5.3 28014 v1.6" ROM. Time to flash the current ROM.

EDIT:

Also tried Google Maps version 4.0.0 (#81) and it works in the same way on "Sense 2.5 6.5.3 28014 v1.6", so it doesn't seem to be version specific.

FINAL EDIT:

Flashed back to the most recent ROM "Sense 2.5 2012 6.5.5 23541 v1.1", enabled location service, installed Google Maps 4.0.0 (#81) to device, and it is not bringing up my location. When I click the blue dot it says "You current location is temporarily unavailable".

In conclusion, it seems that something has changed between "Sense 2.5 6.5.3 28014 v1.6" and "Sense 2.5 6.5.3 28014 v1.6" which breaks this tower-ID functionality of Google Maps.

ONE MORE FINAL EDIT:

For good measure, I also just tested version 3.2.1 (#17) on the latest ROM and it too does not do the tower-ID as it did in the older ROM.

At this point I'm passing the ball to someone else to figure out what was changed in between these ROMs, because that's an area that I'm a noob in. Cheers folks

nice troubleshooting.....saved me some time......more than likely it has something to do w/ sense 2012 or the aGPS packages from 1922 to 2011

aGPS_Confirmation_1_0_19222811_00
aGPS_Confirmation_1_0_20111829_00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawaii Tom (Post 1603078)
Bob: it looks like in the upper left they hid a "Start" menu. There's a data connection icon, battery level, etc. I tried the other click and drag thing and saw the green lettering that says 90, 270 and 360. Interesting find.
BTW, I tried Max Manila 3.0 with the latest OMJ and it was so screwed up I had to uninstall it. Such a shame. All I really want is a more visible icon on Today screen that says how many Emails I have.
Also, I see on the Page 1 jpg of the quick link screen a 4 x 3 matrix, making 12 buttons. Why do I only have 6 (3 x 2) ?

those screens shots were from the Sense 1921 ROM which had the 12 quicklinks mod....we're still waiting for a 2012 version

Quote:

Originally Posted by brc64 (Post 1603794)
Wait, so how is build number 23541 6.5.5, and the higher build number, 28014 is 6.5.3? Man, I'm confused...

Anyway, I've been on Energy for the past several months, but since he doesn't actually have a Diamond to test with, there's been a number of lingering bugs. I've got a few questions about this one before I try to flash (partly to decide which version I even want to flash..)

Right now I'm on 28014 with Sense 2.1 (EnergyROM), and I'd say that it's reasonably stable, but the few bugs I've got are starting to irritate me more and more. So question 1... are these bugs present in OMJ's ROM?

* The volume rocker works even if the device is locked
* In call volume always defaults to middle, does not remember setting
* The HTC SMS app won't show all of my messages (but the All Messages button that launches the Windows SMS app does)
* The lock screen thinks I still have an appointment (on the next day) after an appointment has passed
* Occasionally unlocking my phone will drop me to the dialer and dial * (I have no idea why, and it's inconsistent)

Next question... has Sense 2.5 gotten any better on the Diamond? The last time I tried it, there were noticeable problems that looked to mostly stem from trying to port it to VGA. For example, it was impossible to set the Twitter update settings to the lowest value because the menu would be off the bottom of the screen, or quick launch icons on the home screen would be cut off (doesn't look to be an issue from the screenshots on page 1).

Lastly, what's the difference between Sense 2.5 and 2.5 2012? I assume 2012 is a newer build, but what's changed? Is it worth it?

sorry to be brief....

yes
no
yes, that is due to the people message classic mod
havent seen that
yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plutonium0587 (Post 1604790)
I finally figured out how to make my AGPS work. I am using the latest ROM OMJ released (the 6.5.5 one) with Google Maps 4.0 installed to the storage card. I also had that Aloqa program installed. I ran the Aloqa program first and it uses GPS and Wifi/CellID so it turns on your wifi and data connection. I turned off the GPS function and it still found my location. I then went to Google Maps and it found my location with no GPS turned on. My Location in Sense actually found my weather location too for the first time ever. The kicker seems to be the Wifi. It has to be turned on to work, but NOT necessarily connected to anything, just on. I have no idea why this is but if I turn wifi off, I get no location.

well i'll be damned...turned on wifi, not connected though, launched google, hit the my location icon on bottom right, went very close to where I am.....odd

bobram 03-03-2010 08:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OMJ (Post 1604823)

well i'll be damned...turned on wifi, not connected though, launched google, hit the my location icon on bottom right, went very close to where I am.....odd

I'll be damned too, turned on wifi without connecting to a network and google maps gets my location to within 90m without GPS! This is even more precise than than the old ROM was locating (1000m) without GPS. Weird stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plutonium0587 (Post 1604790)
I finally figured out how to make my AGPS work. I am using the latest ROM OMJ released (the 6.5.5 one) with Google Maps 4.0 installed to the storage card. I also had that Aloqa program installed. I ran the Aloqa program first and it uses GPS and Wifi/CellID so it turns on your wifi and data connection. I turned off the GPS function and it still found my location. I then went to Google Maps and it found my location with no GPS turned on. My Location in Sense actually found my weather location too for the first time ever. The kicker seems to be the Wifi. It has to be turned on to work, but NOT necessarily connected to anything, just on. I have no idea why this is but if I turn wifi off, I get no location.

Thanks for discovering this! Now what does this mean?

I just did a little experiment, I disabled the EVDO connection and the phone's radio by turning on flight mode, and then only enabled WiFi but didn't connect, and google still gets my location to within 90m.

So how the heck is Google Maps getting my location with only the WiFi radio turned on but not connected to any network? Wtf?

EDIT: Ok, I think I was a little too excited there, lol. I cleared Google's cache by reseting it from the menu and ran the same procedure, this time it could not locate me, so I think it was pulling my location from the cache. In other words it still requires an ACTIVE network connection to locate you without GPS.

EDIT 2:

If you disable WiFi with Google Maps open, my location will cease to function (it will still show your location, but will not update). Re-Enabling Wifi will restore my location's updates.

Here's some info about "my location" from Google:

Quote:

The My Location service takes information broadcast from mobile towers near you to approximate your current location on the map-it's not GPS, but it comes pretty close. We are always working to improve our coverage, but we're still in beta and there may be some areas where our coverage is incomplete; if you get an error message when trying to access your location, don't worry---it should work in other nearby locations.

If you do have a GPS-enabled device, My Location can actually complement it. My Location kicks in faster than GPS in most cases, so you can access your location even faster on the map. It also works reliably indoors (unlike GPS) and doesn't drain your phone battery at the rate that GPS does.

brc64 03-03-2010 09:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OMJ (Post 1604823)
sorry to be brief....

yes
no
yes, that is due to the people message classic mod
havent seen that
yes

A chef that replies in his own Diamond thread? What crazy world have I entered?!

The volume while locked thing is annoying, but I've dealt with it long enough that I'm used to it by now. The in call volume reset is by far the most annoying thing, so glad to see that's working.

Based on all I've read here, it looks like 28014 / Sense 2.1 is the best one for me until some more things are ported over/fixed in Sense 2.5 2012 (most importantly QuickLinks mod). I'll give it a go either tonight or sometime tomorrow. Thanks for all the replies!

OMJ 03-03-2010 09:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobram (Post 1604851)
I just did a little experiment, I disabled the EVDO connection and the phone's radio by turning on flight mode, and then only enabled WiFi but didn't connect, and google still gets my location to within 90m.

So how the heck is Google Maps getting my location with only the WiFi radio turned on but not connected to any network? Wtf?

probably because it already had your location saved


I'm gonna post @ XDA about the aGPS issue

OMJ 03-03-2010 09:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brc64 (Post 1604870)
A chef that replies in his own Diamond thread? What crazy world have I entered?!

The volume while locked thing is annoying, but I've dealt with it long enough that I'm used to it by now. The in call volume reset is by far the most annoying thing, so glad to see that's working.

Based on all I've read here, it looks like 28014 / Sense 2.1 is the best one for me until some more things are ported over/fixed in Sense 2.5 2012 (most importantly QuickLinks mod). I'll give it a go either tonight or sometime tomorrow. Thanks for all the replies!

lol, yeah I'm very active in my thread....I have several roms to play w/ but I'll be honest, the 2.1 roms have been neglected. the demand is more for 2.5. if you want to try a 2.5 rom that has all the mods, I would recommend OMJ_Diamond_SENSE_2.5_28014_v1.6.7z. Sense 2012 is nice but it's not much different, but doesnt have the mods.

Nosey 03-03-2010 10:26 PM

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OMJ:
I have a request/suggestion for a useful app

Sound an alarm when you walk away with your diamond and the stylus is not in the holder, or maybe even an electrical shock to get your attention

I was setting some stuff up on my diamond when someone came to the door, I set my stuff down, went to the door, grabbed my diamond and left with my friend, noticed I left the stylus at home, when I got back, no where to be found

An alarm or an electrical shock would be a great improvement, and I guarantee that when I get a chance to order a new one (this was my 3rd backup and hadn't ordered additional backups), that when they arrive, I will find it


was wondering, I started a new job that's about a 45 minute drive, I like watching CNN in the morning, I noticed that PMD has a rom (using your kitchen) and he has mobile tv on the tabs, I haven't noticed this on any other rom and doesn't look like there is any download for an add on to another rom, since he is using your kitchen/rom, anyway you can sweet talk him into giving you the info so you could add this feature to your rom?

or do you know of a comparable solution to be able to do this? I guess since I'm driving I could see if I could just find an audio stream since I am just listening to it

I tried his rom just to see what the tv looked like, while that's a nice feature, your rom still kicks some... well, you know what!!

manekineko 03-03-2010 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Plutonium0587 (Post 1604790)
I finally figured out how to make my AGPS work. I am using the latest ROM OMJ released (the 6.5.5 one) with Google Maps 4.0 installed to the storage card. I also had that Aloqa program installed. I ran the Aloqa program first and it uses GPS and Wifi/CellID so it turns on your wifi and data connection. I turned off the GPS function and it still found my location. I then went to Google Maps and it found my location with no GPS turned on. My Location in Sense actually found my weather location too for the first time ever. The kicker seems to be the Wifi. It has to be turned on to work, but NOT necessarily connected to anything, just on. I have no idea why this is but if I turn wifi off, I get no location.

Great find! Works here too. I was actually on the verge of flashing back to one of the old versions over this, thanks a million!

manekineko 03-03-2010 11:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brc64 (Post 1604870)
A chef that replies in his own Diamond thread? What crazy world have I entered?!

Why do you think we're all such big fans of this ROM? :mrgreen:

I just wish I could find something comparable for my gf's Touch Pro 2.

ezzie1971 03-04-2010 12:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by manekineko (Post 1605240)
Why do you think we're all such big fans of this ROM? :mrgreen:

I just wish I could find something comparable for my gf's Touch Pro 2.


You can.........trash her TP and get her a diamond!

Sabroso 03-04-2010 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bobram (Post 1604851)
I'll be damned too, turned on wifi without connecting to a network and google maps gets my location to within 90m without GPS! This is even more precise than than the old ROM was locating (1000m) without GPS. Weird stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMJ (Post 1604872)
probably because it already had your location saved
I'm gonna post @ XDA about the aGPS issue

So there is a way to be sure that GPS radio is complety OFF??? (I mean it will not drop the battery life)?? If this is posible I think I will stop use "Destinator 9" and start use Google Maps!!
EDIT: Damm, to quick my idea is not worthly, google maps get no direction guide in my area, Damm it!!
Anyway, I remmenber how Palm Treos user complain about "MAPS" doesn't work until A-GPS is working (which it will not work if you are off a cdma area, as a highway without mobil signal or a rural area without CDMA, which make a PAIN IN THE ASS the DEPENDECNY to A-GPS signal for PALM TREOS. but also if my memory doesn't fail I don't remmeber they complain about "MAPS" eating the Battery Life. Any old "Palm Treo" here??
So I guess there is no Perfect World.


OMJ, Talking about perfect world, I was watching last HTC releases and I get this thought (don't worry asking nothig to you, indeed is for HTC developers but have no clue where to make them reach this idea as they said in Barcelona they listen to their clients).
So, I like (haven't try but the idea looks great) the new "
seven-screen ‘Leap’ thumbnail view" (for quick/easy access to specific screens). Yeah I now we don't have android but this can be "HTC Tab Switch "LEAP"".
Imaging this: no more "TAB ROW" to scroll (anyway you can SCROLL TABs without using the bottom ROW) , I know everyone first time like use HTC Tabs row but after a while, after "NEWISH" effect, it stop and you start realize it is not so quick to go from tab one to tab nine, so "HTC TABS row" are not the heaven
.
Even more,
Maybe I'm just imagine this but maybe if you analize better the HTC MINI HD video you can see no more "start button" soft key and "X" soft key. We don't have all it hard button but something similar to "AEButtonPlus" can help. So we can forgot of "start button" soft key and "X" soft key, so again more free space and ROW more thin.
Finally it only lack that they replace "HTC TABS ROW" (I mean no more this row) with "HTC TAB SWITCH "LEAP"" and VoilĂ*, Magnific, Bravo!!!
In Wish there are no SIN, but I know I left my imagination fly sometimes, also I hate
HTC MINI HD resolution 320X480 HVGA, it could be so easy if it was VGA or even WVGA, but again our screen are not perfect and evolution cames naturaly. Best Regards Sabroso.

OMJ 03-04-2010 12:59 PM

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has anyone tried the new HD mini lockscreen from HTC? it was ported to VGA here . It's not too bad, maybe alittle better than the WM lockscreen.....here's a SS:

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...z/Screen01.png




to change the background pic (which the default is solid grey), take any 480x640 image, rename to nero.png, and copy to \windows. there's also another slider posted in that thread that is more transparent.

tssi 03-04-2010 01:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OMJ (Post 1606238)
has anyone tried the new HD mini lockscreen from HTC? it was ported to VGA here . It's not too bad, maybe alittle better than the WM lockscreen.....here's a SS:

to change the background pic (which the default is solid grey), take any 480x640 image, rename to nero.png, and copy to \windows. there's also another slider posted in that thread that is more transparent.

OMJ, Love your ROM, Long time lurker 1st time poser.

Which version do you use VGA or WVGA?

tspideyr 03-04-2010 01:11 PM

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The latest 6.5.5 rom is great!! Super Fast and the font is really easy to read, lol
I installed the HD Mini lockscreen, its really good, does anyone know of a good program to autolock the phone when you press the power button?

tspideyr 03-04-2010 01:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tssi (Post 1606264)
OMJ, Love your ROM, Long time lurker 1st time poser.

Which version do you use VGA or WVGA?

Our Diamonds are VGA Resolution

OMJ 03-04-2010 01:22 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by tspideyr (Post 1606269)
The latest 6.5.5 rom is great!! Super Fast and the font is really easy to read, lol
I installed the HD Mini lockscreen, its really good, does anyone know of a good program to autolock the phone when you press the power button?

I posted "LockDevice" in that thread, it works great

here, i'll attach here...

tssi 03-04-2010 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tspideyr (Post 1606273)
Our Diamonds are VGA Resolution

Thanks. That answer it all.

tspideyr 03-04-2010 01:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OMJ (Post 1606290)
I posted "LockDevice" in that thread, it works great

here, i'll attach here...

Thanks! Gonna try it now...

JZR 03-04-2010 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OMJ (Post 1606238)
has anyone tried the new HD mini lockscreen from HTC? it was ported to VGA here . It's not too bad, maybe alittle better than the WM lockscreen.....here's a SS:

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...z/Screen01.png




to change the background pic (which the default is solid grey), take any 480x640 image, rename to nero.png, and copy to \windows. there's also another slider posted in that thread that is more transparent.

Does this lockscreen use the WM lock? I need to use a passcode to lock my device for work, which is why I can't use Manila locker. I'd love to have some kind of slider that prompts for a password after sliding. With Manila locker, if I use a WM passcode, the ugly/useless WM lockscreen displays over the nice-looking Manila locker. Right now I'm using S2U2, which is great, but it also doesn't use the WM passcode.

Thanks,
JZR

jelive 03-04-2010 02:36 PM

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A bit of a naive question for anyone...how do you update a program such as Opera that's cooked into a ROM with a newer version. Tried with regular cab but that doesn't seem to work.

Jim

mwalt2 03-04-2010 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OMJ (Post 1606238)
has anyone tried the new HD mini lockscreen from HTC? it was ported to VGA here . It's not too bad, maybe alittle better than the WM lockscreen.....here's a SS:

to change the background pic (which the default is solid grey), take any 480x640 image, rename to nero.png, and copy to \windows. there's also another slider posted in that thread that is more transparent.

I found out the background will change just by changing your wallpaper in sense (at least for using the weather wallpaper). It will match your homescreen wallpaper.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JZR (Post 1606352)
Does this lockscreen use the WM lock? I need to use a passcode to lock my device for work, which is why I can't use Manila locker. I'd love to have some kind of slider that prompts for a password after sliding. With Manila locker, if I use a WM passcode, the ugly/useless WM lockscreen displays over the nice-looking Manila locker. Right now I'm using S2U2, which is great, but it also doesn't use the WM passcode.

Thanks,
JZR

The vga port does not work with a pin. Don't install it or you'll have trouble using your device if a pin is set.

mikedboyd 03-04-2010 03:08 PM

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I use this for my wife's Diamond. I wish I could find a ROM/chef like this for MY TP2! I use Energy ROM with basically the same versions, but I like this much better. Tastes great, less filling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by manekineko (Post 1605240)
Why do you think we're all such big fans of this ROM? :mrgreen:

I just wish I could find something comparable for my gf's Touch Pro 2.


apinkel 03-04-2010 03:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedboyd (Post 1606551)
Tastes great, less filling.

I like that one... oddly enough, that really does sum it up.

bugzy 03-04-2010 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OMJ (Post 1606290)
I posted "LockDevice" in that thread, it works great

here, i'll attach here...

does this LockDevice work with the HD Mini locker?

I've been using the HD Mini locker, and it works pretty good. As good as the default WM locker.

bugzy 03-04-2010 04:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bugzy (Post 1606758)
does this LockDevice work with the HD Mini locker?

I've been using the HD Mini locker, and it works pretty good. As good as the default WM locker.

Im using the lockdevice and the hd mini locker, so far so good

Kundi4523 03-04-2010 07:52 PM

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OMJ....love your work! The SMS seems a little sluggish even both keyboards (i am using the FNG KB currently). Any cabs or edits available to make it run smoothly?

aeropatel 03-04-2010 07:57 PM

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the mini locker seems pretty nice..two things i noticed (running custom 2012 6.5.5 rom). The slide motion is hardly there. it unlocks it when you swipe/slide down but no animation/motion shown. also, it doesn't lock the volume keys.

scmasaru 03-04-2010 09:16 PM

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For those who cannot get AGPS or My Location to work please check the Google Mobile Maps About page. If the second from the last line shows "myl: N/A", add the following reg keys:

Code:

HKLM\software\google\googlemaps
supports_extended_ril=1  (String Value)
supports_extended_wifi=1 (String Value)

Later Google maps versions fail to create the two items so myl stopped working. Before we did not have this problem because OMJ cooked in the GMM 3.2 which creates teh reg values. So for later versions we should always cook in the two reg keys to work around the problem.

gadgetcrazy 03-04-2010 09:38 PM

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So is the GPS issue sorted out in the latest build?
I havent updated for about a month now.

bobram 03-04-2010 09:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scmasaru (Post 1607402)
For those who cannot get AGPS or My Location to work please check the Google Mobile Maps About page. If the second from the last line shows "myl: N/A", add the following reg keys:

Code:

HKLM\software\google\googlemaps
supports_extended_ril=1  (String Value)
supports_extended_wifi=1 (String Value)

Later Google maps versions fail to create the two items so myl stopped working. Before we did not have this problem because OMJ cooked in the GMM 3.2 which creates teh reg values. So for later versions we should always cook in the two reg keys to work around the problem.

Well, I'll be damned, this is the answer! I added the reg edits, rebooted, and I now get my location without wifi being turned on.

Thank you very much for posting this info!

On a different note, I see you are a Bell user, what Radio are you using?


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