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Old 10-02-2009, 09:49 AM
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Re: Decisions...Verizon or Sprint?

I have made a decision. I switched to Sprint. My final bill for phone was $199 after the $150 price match discount, all the rebates, and I got the rebate department to mail me a check without having to do any paperwork. =)

Instead of $145 from Verizon, my bill with Sprint is $83. I didn't see an overall loss in quality. I actually have better signal and sound quality overall.

To Derrick, I'm still $40 less then your best $700 minute plan. And I have free calling to all 240+ million mobile phones, including the 80+ million verizon mobile phones =)

If Sprint does go bankrupt, then I'll switch back and I'm not really out any money. I've already got a VZW TP2 to use if I need it.

In the end, price with nearly identical performance weighed out. If it was 2 years ago, I'm sure I would have stayed with Verizon, but times change. Thanks for everyone's suggestions.
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:42 PM
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I have a big decision to make. I know this can be as much a personal deicsion for some as it is technical, but I am SOLELY interested in the technical. I personally have no allegience other then staying with a CDMA carrier.

I am currently a Verizon customer with a Touch Pro 2. I have been for 7 years. I ported my number over from Sprint, where I had been a customer for over 5 years. I currently have a 900 minute plan for $119.99 so I can get the 5 favorites (not available on the 450 minute plan). Montly costs after taxes are right around $145.

I have also just signed up at Sprint and received my Touch Pro 2 Monday. Their plan includes 450 minutes for $69.99, about $83 after taxes. The big thing being that the mobile-to-any-mobile eliminates 90% of my off network calls that I needed the 900 minutes for, either for minutes or to use a 5 favorite.

I am in North East Indiana and have been using these phones side-by-side for almost a week now. Outside of a pocket in Roann, IN where I could only get roaming voice/data on Sprint, the two carriers have performed identically, and Sprint has actually been a little better in terms of signal strength SHOWN. Data always works on both, even if at 1x on Sprint (Roann), but even when I had no voice signal on Sprint as soon as I dialed it picked up a roaming tower and I had a clear call.

These are the factors I'm looking at:

Equipment: Maybe it's me, but Sprint sees to be beating Verizon on getting phones out, and while Verizon has had only 1 ROM update for Touch Pro, I think Sprint just released their 2nd or 3rd. I like the fact that Sprint includes more customer friendly tools on the phone to update the system and give you a direct link to updates, though none are available to test just how effective that really is. Since the TP2's are nearly the same, I don't see any build or quality issues. Outside of some minor OS memory allotment differences, the two phones are identical. As for software, there are graphical color and button placement differences, but they phones operate exactly the same. I think the only things I noticed were more "under the hood" stuff with the TF3D DLL's and basic registry changes we have been used to. What works on Sprint (more of what we're used to), may not work on Verizon. Perfect example is the SMS Sent notifications. The old reg hacks work on Sprint, but Verizon has changed the HTCVOLUEMCONTROL.DLL that controls that and you have to change different registry entries in order to properly disable SMS Sent notifications. Who knows what else we will find.

Dropped calls?: I haven't had a dropped call on either. Haven't really heard of anyone having that problem recently. Wonder where some of the problem areas are? I was in Middleville, MI last month and Verizon access was poor. I wonder what Sprint service was like. I've heard that area (20 minutes South of Grand Rapids) was more Nextel/Sprint friendly.

In-call sound quality: Maybe it's just me, but for some reason Sprint sounds a little better. Verizon seems to have static and can sound "broken" and in the past several months I've had trouble properly hearing people in calls on Verizon. I don't have the time to properly test Sprint vs Verizon on this, but I do remember when I switched from Sprint years ago noticing that Verizon didn't seem to sound nearly as clear. Has anyone else had the same experience?

Data quality/speed: This seems to be about the same using them side-by-side. Either one could have better overall speed, but from my one week trial they both seem to load web pages at identical times. The only thing I've noticed is that I rarely, if ever drop to 1x on Verizon where as with Sprint, out in the country I've dropped to 1x a couple times. Even then I could use a data connection

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Accuracy: With Verizon, every store and every phone tech/dept I talk to gives me a different answer. LITERALLY. My wife thought I was just being difficult until she started listening in my calls to them. Every single person I got on the line gave me a different answer. It's nice knowing that you can eventually call and get someone to do what you need to do, but it's extremely time consuming and a pain in the ***. On the other hand, with Sprint, every phone call I've made and every different store I talk to tells me the EXACT SAME THING. That has really been one of the nice things about dealing with them.

Verizon phones/cost: I personally received a free upgrade to a TP2 from a TP at Verizon because I was going on my 4th one for defective hardware. Since they didn't renew my contract I can still get another TP2 on my account in January and have 2, one for me and one for my wife. My wife is on her own plan and we are looking to move her over to mine soon. To get 2 lines with unlimited data/txt, it's gonna' cost me $200+taxes.

Sprint phones/cost: I got the TP2 for $450 and if I port my number from Verizon back to Sprint they are going to give me the $150 price match and $100 instant rebate (instead of MIR since I'm out of town). To get the phone my wife wants will be another $80. For BOTH of us to be on the same plan will cost $10 less then what I pay alone at Verizon, for $130. Not to mention I may be able to get another 15% off my bill through work for Sprint.

If Verizon actually does add VCast to the options for our Windows Mobile phones on Oct. 6th, you know they are gonna' charge for those again. That's gonna' be another $10-20? That would make my plan $160 to get what Sprint has. Almost twice as much.

What I like/dislike:
- I like Sprint's consistency when talking to all their support people and reps. I hate Verizon for the lack of consistency.
- I like the Sprint TP2 phone better (for now, who knows what the Oct 6th or after ROM updates will bring). Mainly based on what seems to be a more consistent, less "Verizonized" version. Verizon's phone date was a month newer, so maybe Sprint just didn't have the newer TF3D pieces yet.
- I like Sprint's plan and pricing better, who wouldnt'? I do like that I get Sprint's TV and Navigation for free with my plan, while I would have to pay extra for that with Verizon.

So which would you choose and why? I am really interested to know what your experience has been with either, or both carriers. Why did you leave, or not leave?

Thanks!!!
Whoa, Whoa Whoa! First off that was way too long, its gonna take me 2 days to read all that but any way you should check the coverage map and see if you'll get a good signal in your town and $119 for 900 min? Thats a rip off I get 900 min gor $89.99 with unlimited data so I would say if you want a cheaper plan with unlimted data then Sprint and you might be able to get the phone for $199 like everyone else on here. Ur Welcome my man.
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:40 AM
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Re: Decisions...Verizon or Sprint?

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Whoa, Whoa Whoa! First off that was way too long, its gonna take me 2 days to read all that but any way you should check the coverage map and see if you'll get a good signal in your town and $119 for 900 min? Thats a rip off I get 900 min gor $89.99 with unlimited data so I would say if you want a cheaper plan with unlimted data then Sprint and you might be able to get the phone for $199 like everyone else on here. Ur Welcome my man.
I added unlmited txt to my account. That addes another $20 per phone for Verizon. Sprint includes all that, Verizon bends you over the more you want to add.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:06 PM
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Re: Decisions...Verizon or Sprint?

Hey zim2323, my name is BJ DeHut and I am a representative for Sprint. You are correct about the equipment; Sprint has been pushing out better phones and software updates for all of our products, including slight variations of certain phones. It is our priority to solve any bugs or further develop existing phone functions so that the phone is always what you want. As for the network themselves, I’ll let these third party sites do the talking for us:
http://gizmodo.com/5111989/the-defin...t-3g-data-test
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/...-test-results/
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