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Old 02-02-2011, 11:43 PM
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There is actually a third rootfs option as those who have been quietly running it for the past 3 or so months already know. The latest incarnation of it may be found in the New Rhodium Key Maps & Layouts - Latest Rootfs thread over on xda-devs. I didn't start pushing it heavily until this latest release though. It includes support for the rhod100 (DE, FR, IT, Nordic, NL & UK), 200, 300, 400 & 500. I expect to add the 110 tomorrow.

Traditionally I've preferred making the end button home/recent apps while keeping the power button as power/sleep. That option exists in my rootfs. I also added in support for power as home and end as power at one point, but that required a modified kernel as well, and the kernel mods that were needed were discouraged by some of the other kernel devs. So I dropped it. It does now appear that a modified kernel may no longer be required however. It's not in my current rootfs, but I may add the option to make the power button home back in at some point in the near future.
Thanks for the tip! I've updated the front post to reflect this.

Did you enable the rear mute as well? After I enabled it in my patched rootfs, I think it's a good modification. Virtually impossible to accidentally hit, and useful for the speakerphone like in WinMo.

It would be great if you could manage to add in the power button home in the future. In my opinion, it makes the most sense conceptually, since the power button as call end is pretty unorthodox, whereas power button home is easy in that it's just power button = power on, end call = power off.
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Thanks for the tip! I've updated the front post to reflect this.

Did you enable the rear mute as well? After I enabled it in my patched rootfs, I think it's a good modification. Virtually impossible to accidentally hit, and useful for the speakerphone like in WinMo.
Yup, it's been in all of my more recent rootfs images, and I entirely agree. The funny thing is that I forgot to mention that it was present in my announcement until I read your post earlier today. Your post reminded me that I really should mention that it's in there. It really is a nice little feature. I have no idea why the button was originally mapped to REAR_MUTE instead of MUTE to begin with in the layout file, there is no REAR_MUTE keycode in android, so the framework didn't have a clue about what to do with it.

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It would be great if you could manage to add in the power button home in the future. In my opinion, it makes the most sense conceptually, since the power button as call end is pretty unorthodox, whereas power button home is easy in that it's just power button = power on, end call = power off.
I don't know, personally I find thinking of the power button as a toggle between awake and asleep to be fully intuitive.

When I polled the users on XDA a few months back, almost nobody liked the current setup, but those who didn't like the current setup were split between those favoring power as power with end as home, and those favoring end as power with power as home. The ratio was about 2:1 in favor of the former over the latter. Nevertheless those favoring the later possibility such as yourself were just as highly passionate regarding their preference. Even the devs were split on the issue, and that's probably why there hasn't been a decision to change the current status quo which next to nobody likes. We'd like to eventually make this all reassignable from within android's framework by the individual user at some point, just like short-cuts, but that's later down the road.

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When I polled the users on XDA a few months back, almost nobody liked the current setup, but those who didn't like the current setup were split between those favoring power as power with end as home, and those favoring end as power with power as home. The ratio was about 2:1 in favor of the former over the latter. Nevertheless those favoring the later possibility such as yourself were just as highly passionate regarding their preference. Even the devs were split on the issue, and that's probably why there hasn't been a decision to change the current status quo which next to nobody likes. We'd like to eventually make this all reassignable from within android's framework by the individual user at some point, just like short-cuts, but that's later down the road.
Yup, it'd be great to be able to see options for both camps down (home = top vs. home = end) the road in the official rootfs. I was using your home = end rootfs prior to rolling my own, and in the end it's mostly just picking your poison, either it's weird how you turn off the screen, or it's weird how you end calls.

It's really true that the current default setup makes nobody happy. It's supposed to be for the newbs but it just confuses them that there is no Home button by default, and even after Spare Parts they lose the key multitasking recent apps button.

Maybe you should make your home = end the default, and make the startup.txt option necessary for the current system that nobody likes.
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Yup, it's been in all of my more recent rootfs images, and I entirely agree. The funny thing is that I forgot to mention that it was present in my announcement until I read your post earlier today. Your post reminded me that I really should mention that it's in there. It really is a nice little feature. I have no idea why the button was originally mapped to REAR_MUTE instead of MUTE to begin with in the layout file, there is no REAR_MUTE keycode in android, so the framework didn't have a clue about what to do with it.
Manekineko, I just remembered that you had brought this subject up with me in mid-January. DOH. I'm getting forgetful in my old age. :P I didn't get around to it for another 2 days after our conversation, but once I did look at it I pretty much came to the same eminently sensible conclusion you did on your own. So I owe you credit for putting the idea of reassigning the rear mute key in my head.

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