Worth the wait? Will it one day be "complete enough"?

[sherm420]

hopefully there are enough sero holdouts that will continue the push...

[gullzway]

Originally Posted by sherm420

hopefully there are enough sero holdouts that will continue the push...

+1 I'm not ready to fork over an extra $20/month for the same features I currently have! And I'm not even on Sero, just an older cheap Legacy plan. The TP2 is the "Last if the Mohicans" for Us wanting to stay on our low cost plans! Fully working Android would keep me on it for a long time to come! I've even got an extra one just in case.

[JDM_SOHC]

Originally Posted by mlin

Agreed. As Android released more and more bad ass phones, more and more people are switching, some of those likely being developers. I have noticed that while some of us like the idea of Android on our TP2s as a novelty, it seems many want a full replacement for WM. As was mentioned earlier, with so many 1 GHz phones coming out, why even bother with the TP2 development? I know if I were developing this as a replacement, it would be more worth it to me to spend $400+ then 400+ hours.

x2 couldn't have said it better myself...

[Cobaltikus]

The question was asked: Why spend time developing for a TP2 when you could be developing for phone with a faster processor?

BECAUSE OF THE KEYBOARD!!!

Those faster processor phones don't have one.

So WHY NOT spend time developing for the TP2? It's the best phone out there with a hardware keyboard. And the processor is not at all slow, it's just not as fast as the latest phones.

If you don't care about the hardware keyboard, then I'd say go ahead and switch phones - go for the best phone that meets your needs. But for those of us who don't want to give up the hardware keyboard they will hopefully keep developing this port until it has all features working or a better phone comes out that already has everything the TP2 has and more.

[00_MACKIE_00]

Originally Posted by Cobaltikus

The question was asked: Why spend time developing for a TP2 when you could be developing for phone with a faster processor?

BECAUSE OF THE KEYBOARD!!!

Those faster processor phones don't have one.

So WHY NOT spend time developing for the TP2? It's the best phone out there with a hardware keyboard. And the processor is not at all slow, it's just not as fast as the latest phones.

If you don't care about the hardware keyboard, then I'd say go ahead and switch phones - go for the best phone that meets your needs. But for those of us who don't want to give up the hardware keyboard they will hopefully keep developing this port until it has all features working or a better phone comes out that already has everything the TP2 has and more.

for me, the Moment smokes a TP2 and has a complete working Android on it and a slide out keyboard.

[theelite]

yeah processor wise the Moment is better, but the screen is only HVGA and 3.2"

[dishe]

Originally Posted by 00_MACKIE_00

for me, the Moment smokes a TP2 and has a complete working Android on it and a slide out keyboard.

Funny, most people I know who tried the moment had buyers remorse, and wished for either a) an HTC Hero or b) a Touch Pro 2.

Weird, huh?

But I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with most of you guys here... As someone already mentioned, the Vogue has a complete port working 100%. Bluetooth, A2DP, Camera, GPS, you name it. In fact, many people are flashing WM off their phones bringing Android into internal NAND memory. And all this happened AFTER the Vogue was considered obsolete.

When the Touch Pro and Diamond came out, Android on the Vogue was still a "proof of concept", much like ours is now. Fun to play with, not really ready for prime time. The Touch Pro 2 came out, and the EOL for the vogue came and went- but still there are dedicated developers tweaking and fixing Android on the 2-generation-old phone.
Why? Because some people actually like the design of the Vogue (it IS one of the smallest and most pocketable devices ever made), and because gosh darn it, some people don't buy a new phone just because the next best thing came out!

My point is that right now there are a lot of great Android handsets, but they all have pros and cons. There are still some things that the Rhodium is ahead with in comparison.
The keyboard is second to none (Moment's keyboard has space bar between letters on bottom row? no thank you- The Droid's is cramped and pushed over for a D-pad, found it very hard to type on... most other new android devices don't even have a KB at all, which is a deal breaker for me), the volume and speakerphone system is excellent (better than most smartphones I've ever seen), and the ability to dual mode GSM and CDMA as a world phone is still rather rare. Then there is the cute "wow" factor of the tilting screen (only sometimes useful, but nice to have). As much as many of the upcoming Android phones would be a step up in some directions, they would also be a step down in others.

In fact, I think the biggest gripe most people have with the Rhodium is the WM operating system installed on it. I've heard some folks claim that they wish there was an Android phone that came in a Touch Pro 2 body type. Well, we've proven that is possible. Maybe one day there will be an official phone released like that, but until then I see no reason for Android development on Rhodium to slow down.

Perhaps some of the early adopters who only owned the TP2 because it was the "latest and greatest" on their carrier lineup at the time will leave when the newer Android devices come out. However (and this is just an observation I made, I'm not saying this is always the case), the real hard core talented hackers/developers are NOT the types who jump at the next new fad device. They carefully buy a device, and then keep it around until it has no useful life before retiring it for something else. The Vogue would never have gotten where it is now if this were not true.

So, between the so-far-unmatched pros of the TP2 design, the packrat legacy mentality of talented developers, and the bevy of SERO users who won't give in without a fight, I think this project will go on for quite a while. Just my .02

[BBHOLIDAY]

Originally Posted by jdmsohc22

seems like this progression has already started to phase out... the updates released now an days aren't really fixing anything that's not working, just tweaking the speed of the current version...

I asked this same question in the android post, and people responded as if everything was Fine & Dandy. But the lack of updates don't lie. I wish they could get it up and running 100%.

[redd214]

well said dishe, thanks given

[dishe]

Funny- none of the nay-sayers here seem to have anything to do with the folks actually DOING THE PORTING, so this just seems like uneducated speculation.
Its no wonder that after pointing out this thread to their IRC room, the response I got was:

" it makes no sense to use ppcgeeks for android rom posting
... while there is xda"

:/

I think it will definitely happen eventually. But I think most of the posters in this thread will have moved on by then and won't care.