[3/6/2010] Google Android for TP2 CDMA [In Dev]

[LiquidX]

Originally Posted by Eschelon

Updates flowed freely once the TP1 port was virtually completed and once most features were working - we're nowhere near that point yet with the TP2 port. Take a look at those daily updates you listed; they're all minor tweaks or kernel updates that were done AFTER the full port was nearing completion - notice there's nothing in that list about a major update like a full RIL port (which civic is working on now)

Civic is only a one-man army in this fight so updates will only occur at his pace and according to his schedule. Once/If he gets things rolling at a rate to where the TP2 CDMA port is as completed as the TP1 was, then you'll likely start seeing updates more and more often

Once again, this isn't totally true, if we could get a hold of civic and his source code for the changes he has made, we have others devs that are offering to help, they just need his changes so they aren't doing over what he has already accomplished.

[Eschelon]

Originally Posted by LiquidX

Once again, this isn't totally true, if we could get a hold of civic and his source code for the changes he has made, we have others devs that are offering to help, they just need his changes so they aren't doing over what he has already accomplished.

If someone else (other than civic) has formally announced that they are currently working to rip open the RIL in order to enable CDMA data, then you and I and everyone else has missed it

Until someone else comes forward with an announcement that they're working on a CDMA Android port, then I stand by my original statement that civic is currently a one-man army (which he is)

Sure, he could release his work so far. But he hasn't yet. So there's nothing untrue about what I said

[LiquidX]

really we don't know that, the other devs could be working on things that would make the port work better itself such as sound, or screen calibration, gps, who knows. I don't want to down play anybodies work, certainly not civics, and definitely no other devs that MIGHT be working on this right now. We have had devs say that they had setup a workstation like civic told em to and that they were making some attempts, so that sounds to me like they are working on it.

[biff6789]

Originally Posted by LiquidX

really we don't know that, the other devs could be working on things...

Name for me one of these devs that you are referring to...

Sorry LiquidX, but I gotta agree with the other guy on this one. Civic himself said he's alone on this one:

Originally Posted by 95-civic

I apologize for the slow progress, but I am an army of one :P

Not that we wouldn't want anyone else to sign up, though

[nasa1303]

really loving my new tp2. had the android running decent on my tp and just loaded everything on my tp2 for the android. accelerometer doesn't seem to be working on mine. it was stuck sideways. any ideas

[razorloves]

Originally Posted by nasa1303

really loving my new tp2. had the android running decent on my tp and just loaded everything on my tp2 for the android. accelerometer doesn't seem to be working on mine. it was stuck sideways. any ideas

the stylus controls the view.
stylus in = portrait
stylus out = landscape

[nasa1303]

well thanks for that it worked fine in portrait while i had the stylus in.

[LiquidX]

Originally Posted by kitts

I was able to setup the dev environment on a Ubuntu Virtualbox. Built the zImage but it doesn't boot up..(jus shows the blank screen after the system messages)... I need to look into it further..hopefully can figure it out soon..

Originally Posted by ndno

Awesome... I will try this out if I have time. I'm a little familiar with the embedded Linux dev tools as I have worked on the TI OMAP processor on the BeagleBoard development board (www.beagleboard.org). Is a majority of the work in the TP2-related device drivers area of the Linux kernel to get the TP2 going? I'm assuming most of the apps on top should start to work if we get the device drivers working.

Originally Posted by variance

just set up a dev-environment. Does anyone know of any CDMA android phones where their stock roms have been dumped and I could take a look at how they handle their CDMA data and try to get a feel or handle of how they operate normally. (preferably ones that use same or similar (same manufacturer) chipset as the TP2.

any other HTC cdma phones I should look at for ideas to approaching the data stuff.

also looking into the senseUI thing.

/disclaimer more of a integrator guy who looks to tweak things already written from different places to somehow work together. Most of my coding from scratch experience was developing for MUDs a lifetime ago.

Originally Posted by [ACL]

I have a working sence ui system.sqsh but the dimensions are all wrong. The keys and the widgets appear all squished together.

My next step is to take a clean eclair system image and try to add the htc libs and packages manually. Unfortunately right away i can see that Rosie will not install easily.

Does anyone have a eris system.sqsh that i can look at?

ALso i wanna thank civic for posting that cdma compile config. ive been beating my head for a while to get cdma working from source.

Originally Posted by bobafatt

I think I will join on this dev project. I had some success with using the GSM build, and editing the boot file with the cdma. I could place calls, buy did not have voice or sound. I was suprised because it registered the time with sprint. I will setup a box tonight, but civic you might see what you can salvage from the GSM cab @ xdm. It should save you a ton of time as the drivers are the same for most of the things.

ok finally figured out the multi quote thing, these are some of the posts I was talking about

how can we get more devs involved? maybe if this was more than a one man war we might get somewhere

[makkonen]

Originally Posted by [ACL]

why cant we use gitorious again?

We can. We should. We do.

Originally Posted by matthewb57

I agree. There are several free Git hosting sites for public code it seems (gitorious is one of them I gather) and we should use the "Android on HTC" wiki as a place to put all the updates and FAQs and such.

My offer for hosting was more just to replace the current megaupload hosting for the compiled builds. I don't know much about Git, but I assumed it was only a source code versioning system, and did not contain compiled builds. If it can contain compiled builds for download (packaged for the end users), then everything is covered already.

If someone wants to take up cleaning up and bringing the Android on HTC wiki up to date, that's noble... I feel like it fell by the wayside a long time ago. There's so much data on all these ports in so many different places, it's exhausting. (there's the xda-devs wiki, the android on htc wiki, the androidhtc wiki at sourceforge, the wave, the xdandroid and android on diamond threads at xda-devs... I could go on.)

Hosting builds is a very useful service, and probably the only hosting that needs to be offered. Gitorious doesn't fill that niche. Glemsom's site has the kernels covered, and Stinebd has just made an autobuild site for the rootfs (I assume those aren't much use for rhod400 at this point, if 95-civic has his own changes in the rootfs), but it is nice to be able to wrap up whole device-specific packages.

Originally Posted by Eschelon

If someone else (other than civic) has formally announced that they are currently working to rip open the RIL in order to enable CDMA data, then you and I and everyone else has missed it

Until someone else comes forward with an announcement that they're working on a CDMA Android port, then I stand by my original statement that civic is currently a one-man army (which he is)

Sure, he could release his work so far. But he hasn't yet. So there's nothing untrue about what I said

I'm pretty sure phh has made some changes in the RIL to try to enable cdma data (not successfully, but it's something). MrPippy now has a rhod400 and has put some effort into getting the wifi driver up to speed, as well as just looking around at the state of things.

There haven't been any FORMAL announcements , but there are other folks out there putting in effort. That's the nice thing about open source... the whole community can just jump in and get to work. Speaking of which...

Originally Posted by LiquidX

Once again, this isn't totally true, if we could get a hold of civic and his source code for the changes he has made, we have others devs that are offering to help, they just need his changes so they aren't doing over what he has already accomplished.

Originally Posted by rdwing

how can we get more devs involved? maybe if this was more than a one man war we might get somewhere

Seconding that. I don't know how many out-of-tree patches 95-Civic has made to get things to the point they're at for CDMA, but having them available for everyone else to see can only help. It's Linus's Law: "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow."