Re: [TESTING] Updated 3/11/11 New Kernel - TONS of changes!!
 

After talking with WisTilt2 about it tonight, I'm curious if anyone finds any correlation between the slow-to-sleep (~30 seconds of blinking green after screen off) condition OR SoD conditions to reduced battery.
IE. Does the SoD happen more frequently when you're running out of juice?
Does the slow-to-sleep condition occur more once you're out of the 80%-90% range?

Re: [TESTING] Updated 3/11/11 New Kernel - TONS of changes!!
 

I think you may be on to something there. The only SODs I can recall in the last few kernels occurred at around 20% battery. I'll keep an eye on failed wakes.

Re: [TESTING] Updated 3/11/11 New Kernel - TONS of changes!!
 

New kernel seems to be better as far as SODs go, will report back tomorrow after heavier use as I mostly checked tapatalk here and there today, not much more.

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full screen, hangup (go to sleep), slide to black screen even before a green light flashes, power----straight to lock screen............10x in a row. No issues. full wake up on every power and unlock

did it again and waited until the first green flash----no issues. plugged into usb....trying on batti


same results----wake up instantly. on the 3/11 kernel ... no issues here.

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You've got a solid build there ;) Mine is working well now. I reduced my OC speed down to 614Mhz (614400). Been watching SlingBox over 3G data at work for the last 90 minutes; video is not as smooth at 614mhz but good enough; was watching the last quarter of the Lakers vs Magic game. :mrgreen: Go Lakers!

Re: [TESTING] Updated 3/11/11 New Kernel - TONS of changes!!
 

@ ndno---drop a new version that you compiled (from your 3/1) with the new kernel and image---same startup with oc no more than 710. I am having absolutely NO issues with the new kernel or with your scrips...I cannot reproduce any errors/SOD/lags. completely smooth sailing with me. I have tried to get a glitch and cannot-------------------unless I get below 35 free mem...then things get squirly. easy fix---quickboost...or auto kill by cycling sleep mode. I think this is a memory issue, not a kernel issue. check your base rom. get at least 105 free at winmo boot....leaving 85 free on android. Which is a bit of breathing room, but as a reference, my wifes EVO has 350 free after boot

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Yes, that anomaly does not happen because of SlideIt - I can confidently say that as I experience this issue and it's maddening.

Not quite as maddening as the repeat letter bug, but hey.

Worst part is, I have no clue what's causing it, or how to track it down... I guess I'll just have to pull logs a ton of times after it happens.

What I have noticed is that the "dead kbd" bug seems to be solved by closing the kbd and reopening - but the repeat letter bug doesn't always get resolved by closing the kbd I noticed... Odd.

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tell me exactly how to reproduce these bugs----I can't do it??????????


I know it's not always the "right" time for it---but click on the microphone on the keyboard----it will compose virtually any message with voice (standard google keyboard) any other time---standard software or hardware KB work fine---getting used to voice to text, especially with google

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If it was reproducible consistently, it's usually a lot easier to fix - at least it can be narrowed down.

The keyboard bugs, are random - and I have not found a consistent way to reproduce them other than just type lots of things. I use GV a lot, I wonder if that's a catalyst?

I noticed the other day that the backspace key usually doesn't like to behave when held down - IE it goes crazy if you hold it down, and doesn't stop if you lift your finger.

I cannot reproduce that bug in the Calendar app when adding events. Fancy that, not sure how it will help us resolve the bug but hey!

Just saw your post about voice text - use it ALL the damned time, whenever I can really. I'm addicted to it!

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@Arrrrrghh....yea, FU tellme

Re: [TESTING] Updated 3/11/11 New Kernel - TONS of changes!!
 

...What?!? Maybe I'm just tired, but I can't read this post in a positive light. Not sure what I said to warrant that comment, but seems like I'm just pissin off everyone lately. Meh.

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@Recursion, been charging for 2 hours...started at 80% ....full charge now, batti at 100% and temp at 85 degrees (still pulling data for aloqa and vlingo and email) I can't reproduce the temp spike----my guess is google sync is in a cycle (had it a few days ago, check your mem usage)

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lol, completely agreeing with you....google voice to text is much superior to samsung tellme (the only other real alternative)

no worries, I always thought you were the "troll"

"winning, winning!!!"

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LOL. I think he meant there's an app under WinMo called "TellMe"; maybe he doesn't like it so he said "FU Tellme"???? LOL

Haha, they're saying FU to the TellMe program. Not you...

EDIT: Glad that's been cleared up by like 20 people.


Sent from my DROID PRO using Tapatalk

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thanks for making it the way it was suppose to be read guys!!

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Yeah, you gotta be careful... arrrghhh is very very helpful but he's sorta stressed out with a few who are ungrateful. Just shoot it straight, no sarcasm or hidden meaning here ;) I guess unless we're into what Charlie Sheen is up to lately, we won't understand you. ;)

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@NDNO----stop messing with NDNO's perfect android script, it's working perfect for me. Just follow the directions and everything will work smooth....LOL. can't replicate the problems----it's too stable.

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I think if we could come up with 150 free at boot we'd be fine. 100 just drops too quick especially since android caches everything...I think this is the root problem.....

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EmHahaha...I think I figured out why I was crashing. I made a new folder on SD Card called FRX05 (left FRX04 there) and never updated my startup. So ran haret from FRX05, but active directory was FRX04. Maybe, maybe not.

Just reformatted SD, fresh FRX05 slapped on, 3.11 patched in...and WTF? Just got a reboot. Maybe SD Card needs to be retired?

WINNING!!!

Okay, first boot jitters. Running very smoothly now, tapatalk is the only installed app for now. Gonna test charging in almost virgin state....

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left the phone in android all night charging---this morning temp is 79.1 degrees

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FN-A...left android running off charger (was charging very cool this time) ... :) ... but just came home to WinMo. :angry1:

Just restarted android...letting it run. The only app installed is tapa...

Edit: Just to clarify, this is on a freshly formatted, virgin FRX05 image. Been messing around with the phone, took a few pictures, smooth & no problems. But it definitely rebooted into WinMo when I had left. I do have newest Airave going, and will disconnect it if it crashes again.

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complete weirdness for me today. no changes to apps from yesterday---but 4 no wakes in a row. phone goes into deep sleep, then flashing green (not charging with screen off)---than no wake up

free mem is good, temp is good. no fooling with usb.....just SLEEP

so vexed now

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Blinking LED? Phone is trying to sleep in that state, but not in 'deep sleep'. Solid green is deep sleep.

If you try to wake it when it's collapsing, it sometimes has issues with wake... Looking into resolutions, WisTilt2 thinks the long sleeps are related to RIL switching between 3g/2g. Oh that magical new RIL, when will you come to fruition? :p

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Been charging for about an hour, at 75% now, temp at 122F.

I am using an aftermarket battery, might be an issue. Are you on stock battery?

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stock batti----check background aps/mem usage...if you're below 55 or so, you're pulling data somewhere

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Hrm that is interesting.

I am not using the stock battery, but I am using a stock HTC batt - they threw in one from an EVO. Which, from what I can tell is identical other than my batt is bright freakin red lol.

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was having some random lock/no wake up issues----took off the facebook WIDGET and all seems to be back to normal. quickly cycle between manual sleep, power button, slide to unlock with zero issues.

My phone does NOT show charging on usb when batti gets to 100%


new kernel, OC to 710 and installed swapper2 (used to for making SD cache---possible degradation to SD) but this thing is so quick now it's insane.

Glad to see you got swapper 2 working; I'm running it now (just 32mb swapping)... phone is pretty stable and smooth at 614mhz. Gonna see how many apps I can launch before it gets sluggish (vs no swap). Make sure you go to the advanced settings under swapper 2 to force it to delete the swapfile every time you boot into android; this will force the swapfile to be recreated in a different area of the SD card so that wearleveling is used, preventing degradation to the same SD card location used by the swapfile. If you have a big swapfile (like 128mb), it will take a while to boot as it will delete the old swapfile and create the new one.

EDIT: recently bought a couple 2GB cards for $5!!! So I'm testing it on one of them and leave my 8GB alone... don't want to damage my good 8GB card.

Sent from my FRX05-ized TP2

Re: [TESTING] Updated 3/11/11 New Kernel - TONS of changes!!
 

Yeah, the FB widget pretty much sucks. I took it off long ago.

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A tad bit OT but let us know how swapper works on these build and if you're seeing any issues w/ sd cards after using it for a bit.

Oops, sorry about being OT; probably should create another thread for it (cons/pros of using it).

Edit: hey, ffkip911, maybe you go ahead and start a thread about swapper 2 and I'll contribute; you should do it because you're always on top of testing these new features ;)

Edit: I remembered arrrghhh saying not to use swapfile; most likely because it's bad for your SD card, but if you have a card to spare, I guess who knows what pros we can find out about swapper 2. If you're using swapper 2, I recommend you restart Android often so that it will create a new swapfile at another location on your SD card so that your card will wear "evenly" (wearleveling).

Sent from my FRX05-ized TP2

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not really off topic...seeing as the reason to use swapper2 was to verify whether low free mem is the root cause of the crashes---I do see where you are coming from though....check how smooth boot animation is with swapper installed.

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after kicking off FB WIDGET----zero locks or freezes on the new kernel. I'm OC to 710 and using swapper2. holly crap. Arrrrgh, I suggest getting the info from NDNO on how to install and set up the app. this is a must have in my book. maybe not for the EVO people, but for those of us on TP2 with very little free mem available. the more you use it, the more it cache's

currently my settings are

Vin titanium, PP 14

advanced config (winmo) glyph cache 32mb, filter cache 4049
NO OC in winmo

OC android to 710 through startup.txt

Swap place: /sdcard/FRX05/swapfile.swp
Swap size : 128MB
Swappiness : 60(system default)

I'm probably 2/3 speed of the EVO now...steady as a damn rock. I think the issue is the FB Widget....if you don't put that on---you're golden


swap size may be a bit big at 128---96 seems more reasonable for speed

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I wasn't saying you guys were off topic, my request was what was OT, for info on how it worked as far as swapping the data. Although I agree w/ you too, if this stops some of the SOD/Failed wakes, it's relative here lol. I'm still using the FB icon, not sure if that's what you're referring to on merely the widget that's possibly causing the issues as I'm not using the widget, only a shortcut to the app.

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Oops, sorry Fish, misunderstood you. :oops: I agree, the widget may have caused restarts/resets (not sure about SODs though). When I was using the SetCpu widget on the home screen, it was constantly causing resets; I took it off (it's still running in the background) and no more resets; a shortcut to it is fine on my home screen. The FB widget itself must be causing the reset instability, not the FB app (so a shortcut is OK). Maybe certain widgets don't play nice with the home launcher. ffkip911, what launcher are you using? I know Fish uses ADW, I'm using Zeam.

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fish----ahhhh, gotcha. NDNO is the man, he got me up an running on it.

Now here's a question, spinning hard drives can become "etched" also, when data is stored, the spinning disk sometimes needs to be defraged-----however, i was under the impression that flash has no such drawbacks because there is nothing physically moving. so how could pushing and pulling data from one section wear it out??

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I just remember reading in one of the threads here about constantly reformatting the sd card because there is only so many read/write cycles that a sd card can handle and that constant reading/writing to the card can cause it to prematurely die, but I'm not an expert by any means on this. Maybe arrrghhh or one of the dev's could give more info on this. I believe it was Nate who was talking about it, but don't quote me on that.

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When I bought my sdcard from newegg it mentioned there being a limit (Durability: 10,000 insertion/removal cycles) to the read/write cycles... Thats why im hesitant on reformating my sdcard all the time. :(

Im curious though if its every time I copy a file its considered one write cycle. or is it if I copyied 10 files at once thats considered one write cycle.

It cost me like 60$ its a transcend 16gb class 6.

http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/I...ID=TS16GUSDHC6

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fish is right, all current flash memory, there's a limited # of read/write they can perform before they simply wear out. think of it as number of time you can turn on a lightbulb before it burn out, even though no moving part, they can still eventually wear out, depending on the flash memory, I think the design life is typically over 10k write cycle though.