Started testing 3.11 today full.time and connected wifi...deep sleep...woke up fine...pulled down top menu from home and couldn't slide it back up. Couple seconds later bombed out to Winmo.. :(

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Yep, that's how was acting yesterday and some today with the latest kernel. Deep sleep, woke it up, was able to use for a few seconds, then everything seems to stall, and then boom, restart to WinMo.

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Is there a way to get ahold of the last kernel package you posted here? This one seems pretty unstable, but the last one never really gave me issues.

thanks

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Hrm... that's really unfortunate. I've been using this just fine for the entire weekend. I haven't really changed anything with my setup either...

Really need logs to pinpoint it, and I assume dropbox is still borked - double-check just to make sure.

If not, might have to guide you thru ramconsole - which I failed horribly at, so I'm not the best person to guide you guys thru it probably :p. Need to talk to WisTilt2...

You're missing the point. These kernels are for testing, not stability. Please report instability, and I'll pass it on to WisTilt2 and hopefully he can try to remedy it. Obviously klog being disabled is painful, as I really need logs to give WisTilt2 so he can see what is blowing it up. There's some new battery code in there, but it technically shouldn't be in use until the userland app runs... But perhaps there is something tripping it up.

Are you having the same instability as others above? Your vague response really helps no one, and since you do seem to be missing the point of this thread... perhaps I'm just getting frustrated, sorry.

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Arrrghhh, was running the latest kernel without issue until this morning. Tried tossing in my 11 pin usb adaptor to listen to music and when I removed it the freaking phone borked. Rebooted to android sluggish as all hell, just like the other night when running that test for Jonpry, I rebooted ti winmo, it erased every startup.txt to 0B even a spare one hidding in a folder. Rebooted back to android, FC's on system, ADW, etc, back to winmo, back to android and sluggish, can't even get past the flying androids. Back to Winmo now, gonna erase the data.img and see what happens, but only started once I plugged in the 11pin and removed it. Any thoughts, ideas, etc? And yeah, Dropbox is still not grabbing logs.

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Bleh...

Might ask you to start over clean, formatted SD card, whole schebang.

You can feel free to backup all your stuffs, but for testing just to make sure you can get a build running again, starting clean might be the best method.

If you want, start with a new data.img, that's basically starting clean from a user perspective.

I don't understand how it could persist after a reboot like that... data.img seems suspect.

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/facepalm... ok.. if you go back a few pages I clearly posted the problems I had..

Secondly. How anybody deals with your attitude is beyond me... Nearly every thread you post is filled with some sort of hateful crap and is just completely out of control because you are obviously better than everybody else here.

Between the way you treat everybody, that junk you started with tiad, and your general attitude towards everything not posted by you.. it's a wonder anybody ever listens to your crap.

I just asked for the prior package because it ran well and you act like a complete jerk.

Go get some coffee or something to improve that winning attitude, jerk.

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Wow, you're a real winner yourself. Just reviewed your posts - voice command is the only issue you're having? Are you serious?!?

You really make me want to help... Hrm, wait no - you make me not want to help you.

I don't really care what you think of me, if that isn't obvious. If you feel that I started "junk" with tiad8, you really, truly are clueless. Please, move along troll - don't need you here.

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Cool story captain attitude & the whole troll thing is pathetically funny.

I was going to start researching all the programming ins and outs of droid on the rhod since I know linux fairly well now after being so impressed with the droid project and learning it.. but I'm just going to pick up a desire today & move on.

You sir are a mean, jerky, ill tempered cancerous tumor in this community and the fact you're even still here & treating the newer members like you do holds it back in so many ways it's stupid.

Have fun chasing off the rest of your community mr. I'm better than everybody else.

Oh...I hear paxil helps with those tude problems you have.. check into it please for the sake of everybody here.

:wave:

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Can't we all have a civil discourse especially when in disagreeing? Please ya'll...

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You're getting a Desire and I'll never have to deal with you again? Sweet!

I'm really upset that you think I'm "mean & jerky" and I'm sure we've really lost a great dev in you...

NOT! Have a nice life, please let's get back to testing this kernel folks!

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It's running good for me again :) I uninstalled SetCpu, I wondered if that was the culprit (maybe screwing up the system clock when it went to sleep - I had a profile to clock it at 122mhz when it went to sleep). Anyways, I installed SetCpu again but this time, I only have a couple profiles under SetCpu and I'm not creating one for when my TP2 goes to sleep, gonna let the system do its own thing; so far so good, run on 5 hours now... smooth as butter! Good thing is that I haven't seen any SOD lately... Insta sleep/wake works great!

Is it just me or does it seem like charging under Android is very very slow? :scratch:

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[QUOTE=stckmojo;2068326Secondly. How anybody deals with your attitude is beyond me... Nearly every thread you post is filled with some sort of hateful crap and is just completely out of control because you are obviously better than everybody else here.

Between the way you treat everybody, that junk you started with tiad, and your general attitude towards everything not posted by you.. it's a wonder anybody ever listens to your crap.
[/QUOTE]

Bro, let me tell you a few things about how helpful Arrrghhh has been... I've personally been on IRC and watched him walk people who can't even speak english through loading up android many a time, people who don't even bother reading the threads that he has given them a link to that would explain everything. He personally has helped me understand this process better and even remoted into my freaking computer at home to bail my ass out getting adb set up because I'm too much of an idiot to figure it out on my own. Personally if you have that much knowledge of linux I'd hate to see you leave as you could possibly help along the project but if not, good luck with the desire. And if you decided to leave your TP2 for the desire only because of arrrghhh's response, I'd say you need to drow some thicker skin... this is the internet, not your personal life, don't let it get to you like that lol. However if you take a look at any of the posts that arrrghhh has posted where he's had an attitude, take a look at who he's answering and think about it. I personally have snapped on a few people around here because there's too much asking stupid questions that were just freaking answered 3 posts before or in the FAQ that many have taken the time to right and keep up to date. I'm not sorry if any of us here have gotten sick and tired of spoon feeding some of these people (and I'm NOT implying you) but to be completely honest with you, I'd love to see some of them go get a full android phone and jump in another thread to ask repetitive questions because they're time is too valuable to spend reading or searching for the answer that's also been posted.

As far as the issues between Tiad and Arrrghhh, leave them between them.

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Good to hear!

On the charging question, the battery meter is... not accurate, we'll just put it that way. WisTilt2 and jonpry are working on a new battery calibration app - the kernel code is done (in this kernel in fact) but there's no hooks in userland yet so the code is 'dormant' if you will. I will post instructions on how to manually use it once it's ready, and then hopefully jonpry can automate the calibration process fairly quickly and have a functional battery calib tool to test soon :D.

Heh, just saw your post - thanks for the vote of confidence man - I just ignore it, let them roll off... If I worried about everyone that thought ill of me, I'd constantly be worried... So I just go about my business without letting it effect me!

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Deleted the data.img and set it all up again, reduced OC too but still acting funky. Just had another sod, blinking green light, but KB lights never lit up, couldn't get it to wake at all, even after just leaving it for a few minutes. Rebooted to winmo and that's it. Now if that's happening at home I could just hook it up to adb and take a look and see what it's doing correct? Not near my computers right now so can't, but I'm gonna try later at home and see what happens.

Yeah I think that Set CPU app may have caused some issues, my phone was acting funky with it on so I removed it without changing anything else and seemed to stabilize.

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If the phone is completely dead, adb will not work.

You will only be able to pull active logs from a functional phone, although whether or not adb works is a good litmus test to ensure if the phone is actually dead or not ;).

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Running my TP2 with FRX05 (vin titanium base) against my wifes EVO---side by side, batty drain is almost identical. though TP2 will iitially show a few % lower than EVO. once I boot into winmo I get the same % as the evo....then when I boot back into android, % reads the same as winmo and virtually the same as EVO. it's all meter reading


EDIT: audio + charging through dongle (usb adapter) working great in my car.

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Latest test kernel and FRX05 are working pretty well so far for me. Been using phone, messaging, facebook, tweetdeck, email and they all seem problem free. Battery life is pretty good. I have only been testing at home though where signal strength doesn't change and always full bars. Overclocked to 750Mhz and not using setCPU.

Looking forward to the new battery code.

Edit: Also, I switched back to the regular 1276 kernel to test and the amount of failed wakes was crazy! Every other time was a failed wake. I have yet to have one with this kernel.

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1. Previous bullshit content ignored. Not the place for it, this thread is for "testing," not for fine-tuning a working product. I'm pretty damn sure the first post spells this out pretty clearly. Anyhow....back on topic:
2. ndno, is that all you did? Hmmm...
3. Had another crash last night, fresh boot, untouched...crashed about 10 mins later. Was a completely fresh FRX05 folder w/ 3.11 kernel. Notably, when I copied fresh FRX05 folder to SD, I had connected phone (as Disk Drive) to Win 7 machine under Vindows latest Titanium build, W7 checked SD Card for errors and "fixed" them. This may have something to do with it? Gonna reformat Fat32 & do a virgin run.
4. Regarding battery issues, what do you all think about the battery code possibly overcharging? I don't think these batteries have on-board ICs to control charging; I'm thinking the battery code oversees charging. My reasoning is simply because the batteries get so &@#$ hot when charging under XDAndroid. Charging under WinMo never gets that hot. And not to freak anyone out, but my prior battery that was performing like a champ lost its ballz after I charged under XDAndroid all night. Next morning the battery was hot as $41t. Under Vindows, the performance loss was very noticeable. Popped in a new battery, and feeling the Vindows love again.

If (I'm totally off-base)
Then (Don't serve me anymore alcohol)
Else (We may want to avoid, or at least drastically limit, charging under XDAndroid until there's some clarity on this topic.)

Hell, my battery could've been ready to die (it was a year old, but ballzy as hell). :dontknow:

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copy/cut/paste old kernal to folder "xyz" and installed the new kernal and image...startup.txt is still OC to 710...all data pulls up fast. goes to bed fast, and wakes up on a double latte.....wakeup is instant (so far :-)

auto kill seems to actually work when phone goes nighty-night---getting lots of free mem on wake-up -- upwards of 90mb free

been on for a whopping 5 min, will test for the rest of the day

@Recursion...will check batti temp on/off charger on/off data....give me a few hours to get numbers


baseline: off charger, no data 80.5 degrees (ambient is 70) batti showing 100% charge---plugged in with NO charge icon in taskbar OR sense clock (with data--temp, SD mem, HD mem)

plug in usb with screen off--batti still at 100% waiting 5 min.

time's up and with screen off/phone sleep, plugged into usb----no temp change.

You may be pulling data (google sync????) check mem usage

Yeah, if you're using setcpu, un-install it; it's probably causing instabilities messing around with the system clock.

Yeah, I'm worried about charging under android also; I had a few times in which my tp2 didn't go to sleep (an app or process probably running in background) and I left it charging overnight; next tomorrow, it was sizzling. I don't think the battery driver is working quite right under android yet; maybe the battery is fully charged in reality but the driver thinks it's not full yet and continues to allow the charging to go on, causing overheating. Overheat for long period = shorter battery life.


Sent from my FRX05-ized TP2

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Battery charging is not correct in Android, for sure.

I heard there's two methods for charging - fast and slow. Basically the way it is supposed to work, is it is supposed to fast charge up to a certain %, then trickle charge the rest - I have a feeling it's constantly fast charging, so when it hits that certain % it just keeps on going... and never ramps itself down.

I'm thinking with the new batt code they're going to address this, but there is a lot the devs are throwing around.

I never charge in Android overnight, as it does get ridiculously hot in Android when charging for long periods.

Don't know if this is better or worse for the battery, but I leave it overnight to see how deep sleep drain is, then I charge it at my desk while tethering USB. Phone still gets hot as heck, but it's also tethering while charging - not saying this is the right way to do it, but I've done this for a couple of months now and haven't had any significant battery-related problems.

However, as far as batteries affecting performance? I highly doubt it, but I guess stranger things have happened...

As for the crashes, that is confusing. It almost has to be the new battery code... but why isn't everyone having those crashes? Hmmm. I'll have to do some more investigation on this.

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I charge overnight every night and have had no issues. I don't even find it to be hot when I pick it up in the morning.

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off usb for 2 hours, push email, media, aloqa (pulling data), vlingo (pulling data)---batti to 84% and verified against WM.

again, off usb for 2 hours and batti temp is 80 degrees---charging now...will check temp in 1 hour

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Interesting - do you charge off USB or AC? Also, do you know what mA your charger is running at?

I'm curious if that effects it. I haven't charged my phone overnight in Android really ever, but when I used to charge for a few hours it would get pretty hot. Now I just charge at work when tethering, so of course it's going to get hot :p.

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It's a 1A AC charger, but as I said in IRC i'm not really sure if it pairs at 1A because it's not necessarily a matched charger for the phone.

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Sounds like battery code is trickle charging when that happens.
noob alert!! auto kill? is that an app, or built into the OS?
Don't have setcpu installed.
Arrrghh's note regarding battery code acting nutty sounds like the issue. Forgot to mention that my battery was actually slightly warped after it got hot. So yeah, I'm only gonna charge under android between 0 and 70% just to be safe.
Sounds like that's it, bro. Fast v. trickle charging problem. Nomo overnight charging for me...0-70% is it.
Not what I meant by "battery performance." I meant how strongly (long) the battery holds its charge under load. New battery under Vindows stays at 100% unused for 4-5 hours with new battery.
Thanks for the checking, bro. I'm thinking the code isn't properly picking charging mode. It might be that apps, data usage, etc. might be mucking up the state determination, or maybe the logic may be wrong in the first place. I'm sure it'll get fixed up sooner than later, since that's a pretty important part of the OS. \\:D/
I wouldn't doubt that it does. The less ballzy charging source would definitely make a difference. So yeah, drawing some of the current for other tasks (data) would pull down the amps fed to battery charging.

Ahhh...on topic is nice. :confused2:

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temp got up to 103 and stayed----charging indicator on both taskbar and on my sense clock stopped showing charging (showing 100%)

trying to see if I can get this hotter. (103 is warm---nothing like tethering)

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I think autokill is installed (set it up to kill aps on sleep--usually get back to at least 75-85 mb free)) quickboost (dl from market) is a quick mem free up tool. also, HTC sense clock (DL from market) with settings ---sense flip clock but displays outside temp, batti temp, free mem, storage mem, and batti charge

I did have my PP set to 14 and running Vin's titanium---WM gives me 108 free, android gives me 100 at boot, then drops to 75 when it's done caching (aloqa, vlingo, live wallpaper, google talk)


ohhhhh.......................charged to 100%, unpluged, pluged back in....batti at 100% and temp is FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!! 99degrees now in 5 min

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I've been using android 100% of the time on my phone since September 2010 with the same battery my phone came with and have't had a single battery problem except the occasional failed charge.

The only times where I notice the battery is getting warm is:
1. Orange LED SOD (thing is on fire) not plugged in
2. using the device a bunch
3. using device while plugged in

I almost always use AC charging with the standard HTC chargers (TP1 and TP2). I have not noticed much increased heat while charging. Again this is the same battery I've been using since the beginning. For me, it is safe to say android hasn't affected my battery at all.

I have not ever had any heat problems with the TP2. The thing can get pretty warm sometimes, but nothing close to hazardous to me or the components. I remember the days where my TP1 would overheat and refuse to charge. Design flaw!

I charge regularly overnight w my standard TP2 charger and original batt too, never noticed it gets warm in the am but does get hot if I'm charging n listening to music streaming. Been having a hell of a time today w this thing, lots of sods, orange led, backlight but just frozen, blinking green led frozen and solid green too. Goona leave it as it is for the night n try to use adb to see wtf its doing tomorrow when it happens. Arrrghhh or anyone, how do I see what its doing when its frozen to see if its a true sod or if something is freezing it up?

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Wow, sorry to hear all the probs you've been having. I think you had something like this a few weeks back. Have you tried disabling stuff under winmo before booting to android? For example, I disable the gps device under winmo, bluetooth is also disabled; I used neither). My backlight under winmo is set to auto everything. Don't know what else can be the issue. You've tried stock speed, correct?

Sent from my FRX05-ized TP2

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NDNO, using your UL from 3/1 with swapped kernel and zimage-----zero issues...using your original startup.txt with OC (currently at 710) no problems at all. did the pull usb dongle multiple times while on audio with no ill effects----have not been able to stall this (3/11) out at all

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Good to hear about that :) I'm still using that bundle I put together too :)

Everything was running great until I tried SetCpu and got a few SODs and many reboots to WinMo. I'm off SetCpu for now and everything seems stable. Was gonna PM you on my status but here it is :mrgreen:

OK, anyone notice this anomaly. I'm using the physical keyboard to compose a post and once in while, I can't type anything (no chars will show up); at this point, I would have to wait for the backlight on the KB to go off and then I can type again using the physical keyboard. Happens to me quite often now.

Doh! just happened to me and restarted to WinMo.

EDIT: OK, I forgot I had installed a swype-like app called SlideIt. That may be the culprit... gonna remove it now and try again. I guess some 3rd-party apps just make this unstable :(.

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I think I have the jem.....no usb issues, no charging issues, no KB issues, no sod/lag and I'm OC to 710???????? running 3/11 like it's made for my phone

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I've noticed this too as well as the random massive letter repeats. Though I wouldn't say I've noticed it any more now than in the previous test builds. Isn't much to do except wait it out. No reboots because of it though.

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@NDNO---bet you're mem is below 35 free

I actually get around 70-80mb free after booting up to android. Of course, this varies depending on the apps I have installed that launches automatically and from their background services.

Sent from my FRX05-ized TP2

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Just wondering if your stall was at 35.

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Yup, me too, phone remains cool or at most warm to the touch.

Ran into a very graphic demonstration of the RIL SOD today. Was riding an elevator playing with the phone. Slept the phone, and then changed my mind and hit power again within 3-5 seconds. Phone hadn't even hit full green sleep, was still blinking green, but was fully SOD. No response to anything, no keyboard backlight on slide.