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thorfr 11-17-2009 06:34 AM

Re: Holdem Tournament Timer App?
 
I am not sur you have check this one but it s free and easy to use :)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ighlight=poker

:mrgreen:

Gardoon 11-17-2009 10:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zap! (Post 1336353)
You forgot to include an option to start the timer. Either that or I'm retarded. :)

I guess we know who needs to take the short bus! =D>

jk :)

I didn't really want to take screen real-estate to give the directions, but maybe I should. Just hit the enter key (same as select). Every wimo phone that I've seen has a enter key on the front before you the keyboard. I figured it should be intuitive, but it doesn't look like I win any points with that design...

I'm open to ideas for where to spell that out.

Gardoon 11-17-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by thorfr (Post 1336363)
I am not sur you have check this one but it s free and easy to use :)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ighlight=poker

:mrgreen:

Talk about a buzz kill.

Well, feel free to use that one guys. Not sure if there's any reason for me to continue working on this one...

Ciege 11-17-2009 06:50 PM

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Buzzkill indeed.... This app from XDA does most of what I wanted in the first place and is free to boot. It does have some issues in places and could stand to be prettied up a little, but all in all it does the basics.

Vancer 11-17-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gardoon (Post 1336589)
Talk about a buzz kill.

Well, feel free to use that one guys. Not sure if there's any reason for me to continue working on this one...

Gordoon,

Don't give up yet :) ... yours may be better looking and it is apparent that you are willing to update/upgrade yours to add features we would like!

Thanks for your work!

Vancer 11-17-2009 07:04 PM

Re: Holdem Tournament Timer App?
 
... like for instance, I see that other app tracks players but doesn't appear to have a tab to show the payouts for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place or even a 4th place etc...

Gardoon 11-17-2009 07:19 PM

Re: Holdem Tournament Timer App?
 
I kind of think the xda app is a bit noisy and bloated for my taste. Having 8 (I think?) buttons on the main display screen and the smaller text for the main purpose of the app doesn't fit my taste. But as a dev I see interfaces differently than users. If you guys are just going to use that one, I won't bother to continue with mine. If you like my design better, let me know and I'll work with whoever to get the important features in. And my app will remain free since it's mostly an exercise for me at this point. And there are only so many useful features that can be built into it.

I haven't tried the other app, but here are things I plan on doing should anyone decide to use mine:
- power support (allow for keeping the screen on bright, dim, or system settings)
- saving config to memory card (after upgrading rom, install app and tick a box and it'll grab your previous config from your memory card) - this can already be done manually with what I released last night (Program Files\PokerChrono)
- chip values if I can figure out a way to fit such information on the screen without crowding
- whatever else is requested

I do have some other ideas that would take a long time, but that's way off in the future should this even continue.

Let me know.

Ciege 11-17-2009 07:24 PM

Re: Holdem Tournament Timer App?
 
Just tried the app from XDA. It works, but not the simplest thing to use. I agree with the home screen being overcrowded. I've also managed to crash it a couple of times too.
Sooner or later I'm gonna have to gett of my a$$ and try my hand at a mobile app. I've done .NET winforms on the PC for years, but have not yet tried windows mobile apps...

I for one would like to see you continue with your app. You have already started on it, and have a ear out to us who plan on using it. Since we can help direct your featureset I think we will be more happy with that.

Gardoon 11-17-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vancer (Post 1338212)
... like for instance, I see that other app tracks players but doesn't appear to have a tab to show the payouts for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place or even a 4th place etc...

I don't see the use of keeping track of players without listing the payout structure. Especially on the first screen. Actually, I don't see the use at all. I can understand a settings screen that you tap for each buy-in with the buy-in amount. And then giving a list of payout % and the app can calculate payout amounts. So you could assign a % to each payed position (although with a mobile app, I might cap at 10? Or is 4 the most anyone would use?) and if the % is high enough to meet a threshold (either buy-in amount or adjustable), then it would list that position as a payout. IE:
1st - 60%
2nd - 30%
3rd - 10%
it would figure for 4 $5 buy-ins:
1st - $15
2nd - $5
or 9 $5 buy-ins:
1st - $30
2nd - $15
or 10 $5 buy-ins:
1st - $30
2nd - $15
3rd - $5

Maybe that's too complicated for people to use. I don't know. Basically, it would take the total * %, round up to the nearest buy-in increment for each place until the pot is empty. Maybe that's the wrong algorithm, so I'd be open to others.

Does anyone have their own ideas for why they'd use the feature in the XDA app as it stands? I'm not trying to call that guy out or anything, just trying to understand.

Anyhow, I have little interest in doing any of this stuff for myself. But as long as I get feedback, I'll continue working on it.

Gardoon 11-17-2009 07:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciege (Post 1338280)
Just tried the app from XDA. It works, but not the simplest thing to use. I agree with the home screen being overcrowded. I've also managed to crash it a couple of times too.
Sooner or later I'm gonna have to gett of my a$$ and try my hand at a mobile app. I've done .NET winforms on the PC for years, but have not yet tried windows mobile apps...

I for one would like to see you continue with your app. You have already started on it, and have a ear out to us who plan on using it. Since we can help direct your featureset I think we will be more happy with that.

the CF is a bit tougher to work with. It is VERY stripped-down. Some pain points I've had with my very limited exposure so far:
- The numeric up-down control is an Int16 (IIRC). The value stored is a decimal, but you can't display the decimal. Or apply any formatting. All of those properties/methods are gone.
- The data grid can't be edited unless you're bound to a SQL Server Compact datasource. So binding to a custom datasource requires that you pretty much create a new data grid. At least from what I could find (I researched it for probably 20+ hours).

Those are only the things I can remember. When you take a library of 230MB and squeeze it down to 34MB, you lose a lot.

But if you do want to toy with it, I'll try to help (in a separate thread or PM).


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