Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

I guess we will find out in a few weeks. :mrgreen: I'm in the dark as much as the rest of you. Hopefully they will get it all worked out so we can continue to enjoy their music without interruption. I will do what I can to keep C-ApiSRO compatible, but there are now guarantees.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

The login page should have a captcha image and text box at the bottom of the page. If you don't see this captcha then one of the following may be happening:

1. You need to scroll down to view the captcha. C-ApiSRO is developed for a screen with 320x240 dimensions. If your device is different than this then I have no idea how it will look. You should have the ability to scroll your page around to view all of it's data.
2. You aren't connected to a network. When you opened the login page, C-ApiSRO might not have had access to the network. Without the network C-ApiSRO can't retrieve a valid captcha image from Sirius. If no image is retrieved then you will not see it on the login page. However, the error message that you are receiving is indicating that you do have a network, so a captcha should be showing.

Other than these two items I can't think of why you aren't seeing a captcha. Others have done a full uninstall and reinstall and things have started working fine for them. Maybe you could give this a try. Make sure you do a reset of your phone too.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Go to XM's website and create a temporary guest account. Use this account to stream XM with C-ApiSRO. Please make sure your new account is valid by streaming from XM's online player first. Once you have verified that you can play music from XM's online player then login using C-ApiSRO to see if it works from your phone.

If it works then I know your network and audio are setup correctly and that we have a problem with the Sirius stream.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

yeah if you're on a vogue and can't see the catcha, make sure your keyboard isn't open. the captcha is behind the keyboard/keypad/etc.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Will this program work with Canadian subs?

Thanks

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

What's a catcha?

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

im still tryin to figure out wha all this means

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

No, I did not build the Canadian Sirius into C-ApiSRO. I assume it would be easy enough to do though. I have it on my list and will get to it shortly.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Is anyone else having problems getting the XM playlist to load this morning?

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

I'm sorry, a captcha (Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart) is that stupid little image with random, mangled, characters inside of it where you have to enter the text before entering a website.

Here is an example of one from Sirius:
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/2...asamplerz0.jpg
If you don't type in "RWhN" then Sirius won't let you listen to music. It's a pain in the arse, but it's done to ensure the user is a human and not a computer.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Oddly enough I have a yes & no answer for you. My development environment, which uses my home network can connect to XM and get a channel list, but my Phone network, which is Sprint, cannot.

So my question to you is, what phone provider do you use? Could this be a Sprint issue? I'm in the Baltimore/Washington DC area.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

It's now 5 minutes later and things are working for me. I have no answer. ](*,)

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Thanks for the explanation for Captcha. I don't see it on XM so wasn't sure if I was missing something. I'm using C-ApiSRO on a Dell X51. Thanks, nice program!

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

I'm with Sprint as well, could they be blocking us from XM to keep us from streaming? Yikes!

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Those things can be a royal PITA.

I have never had a problem with the ones that Sirius uses, but I have a site I have to log-in to at work where the damn things are almost impossible to read for anybody.

It is not uncommon to hear someone at work swearing after they have typed the stupid thing in wrong 20 times in a row............

~John

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

I doubt it, because my XM is working again. My logs simply tell me that I can't make a connection with remote host, which means I can't access XM's servers. It's possible there is a problem with a hop somewhere on the internet that links Sprints network to XM's backbone, which is why I mentioned I was in the Baltimore/DC area. If you are from the same area then it could be a common network hiccup that all Sprint users in this area are experiencing.

Another theory could be Sprints DNS servers aren't up to date. My logs tell me that C-ApiSRO is able to login okay, but it would provide a connection error when I requested the channel page, which coincidentally happens to be the very page they changed to Secure HTTP that prompted the last update to C-ApiSRO. This leads me to think that the problem could be a DNS resolution issue. Maybe Sprints DNS servers don't understand the new XM host name, which would be real odd. The old host name was xmro.xmradio.com and XM had changed it to xmro-secure.xmradio.com. The next time this happens I will use the physical address to see if the problem goes away.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

For those of you who seem to be having issues with C-ApiSRO getting a channel list, logging in, or streaming music then the following is for you. Microsoft has a tool available that does network diagnostics on your Windows Mobile device. It's free to download and can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en.

What I'd like you to do is download their network analyzing tool and perform the following steps:

1. This is the most important step. USE A TRIAL/GUEST ACCOUNT for the provider you are having trouble with. The network analyzer WILL give me your username/password, so create a trial account that you are willing to share with me. Again, DO NOT USE YOUR REAL USERNAME/PASSWORD, because I will see this.
2. Go to either the Sirius or XM website and play music from their online player using your new username & password. This is to verify that all is working perfectly with your new trial account. Please do not skip this step. It is important that you make sure it works correctly before we introduce C-ApiSRO into the equation.
3. Install the Network Analyzer from Microsoft. Make sure you download the correct one; Pocket PC or Smart Phone. You have a Pocket PC if you have a touch screen.
4. DISCONNECT FROM ACTIVE SYNC. Please execute these tests while using your Providers network, not Active Sync.
5. Start up C-ApiSRO, BUT DO NOT LOGIN AT THIS TIME. Just open it up.
6. Enable logging for C-ApiSRO by going to Menu->Settings and clicking on the "Enable Logging" option. The option to enable logging is done from the Main screen, so you may have to cancel out of the login dialog to gain access.
7. Once C-ApiSRO logging is enabled open up the login dialog and get ready to login. DO NOT LOGIN AT THIS TIME. Just have the login screen ready to go.
8. Open the File Explorer and traverse to the "\Program Files\Network Analyzer" folder. When you installed the Network Analyzer you chose to install it on your Device or Storage Card. This folder will be wherever you installed it.
9. Execute (click on) the startcenetutils.exe file. This file will start the network analyzer. A dialog should appear with the "Start Analyzer' done" text. You can close this dialog.
10. Go back to C-ApiSRO and log into the satellite provider of your choice. Again, USE A TEMPORARY GUEST ACCOUNT.
11. Do whatever it is you need to do to get the problem you are having.
12. Once you have reproduced the problem disable C-ApiSRO logging by unchecking the "Enable Logging" option in the Main->Settings dialog. If you don't do this then you can't access the C-ApiSRO log file.
13. Go back to the "\Program Files\Network Analyzer" folder in the File Explorer and click on the stopcenetutils.exe file. This will stop the network analyzer. MAKE SURE YOU STOP THE ANALYZER OR IT WILL CONSUME PRECIOUS FILE SPACE ON YOUR DEVICE.
14. After stopping the analyzer you will get a dialog telling you where the log files are. Please take all files in that folder and send them to me. Use Active Sync to retrieve those files, or you can send them via e-mail directly from your phone. DO NOT POST THE LOG FILES ON THIS FORUM. Please send me a private message with that information.
15. Grab the C-ApiSRO log file and include that with the Network Analyzer log files. You can find the log file in "\Program Files\C-ApiSRO\log" folder. It is named "log.txt".

Hopefully I will get all the information I need to fully understand why you are experiencing problems. Please DO NOT post your log files in this forum. Send an e-mail or private message directly to me with your information.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Can't be as bad as the ones on rapidshare.http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ptcha-cats.jpg

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Yeah the thing will work fine now if I am sync'd with cpu. Got captcha the very first time I logged in, and since I have tried multiple installs and uninstalls. Dunno. What I have been doing is syncing and not exiting all the way out. Only thing is that is aggrivating as dog doo. I have contacted alltel etc. Just wanted to say THANKS for all your help and the program is great. It's def something on my end or in alltel's server.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Sort of related but not really. I listen to XM on my phone while I work and some of the programming(O&A) isn't appropriate for office ears if someone walks by. Is there another program I can use to mute the speaker on my Titan?

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

So, if I'm to understand you correctly, you're telling me that it works if you are connected via active sync. Is this correct? This definitely sounds like your phone has a network issue. Are you in a roaming area when you try this? If so, do you have your phone configured to allow data on a roaming network? Roaming may cost your money, so check with Alltel if you're not sure

If you are brave enough, try the diagnostic steps I mention in thread #98. It will report information about your network environment that could prove to be useful.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

The XM stream and channel list has been working for me this morning. Hopefully you where right about the DNS servers.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

I will try diagnostic steps. May take me a few days to get it done. Busy schedule ahead.. Will send email when its done. Thanks again.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Hello All:
I also own the mogul, wm5. I updated to version 2.1. The program works for a while (about 1 month), after that I dont get any channels listed. I still get logged in successfully, but does not show any channels. I have reinstalled but get the same issue, no channels listed. Can anyone help. thanks ](*,)

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

XM or Sirius?

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Same issue here using XM. Im on WM6.1 with a Sprint Touch in CT.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

hi R-Capi:
I am using XM radio

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

i get this too, the "capcha" error that is, haven't had much luck resolving it. I did get it to work once after muliple reboots, then the next time I tried to use it, no capcha

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

I have a sprint diamond and I find that if I connect via data connection the XM channel list does not load. If I connect via WiFi, the channel list loads. The previous version worked fine until a week or so ago. I have tried this several times and verified that it loads if connected via Wifi but not via data connection. I am in the Tampa bay Florida area, Sprint network. UPDATE: After a soft reset, the channels loaded via a data connection.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

For all of you who are experiencing problems after this latest release, my best educated guess would be that you are having problems resolving the new host name that XM has given their channel lineup page. When I hear that it works on one network, such as WiFi, but doesn't work on another means you are probably not able to resolve domain names correctly.

What does this mean? I'm glad you asked. In it's simplest terms, a domain name or DN is a human readable internet web name such as ppcgeeks.com, yahoo.com, amazon.com, etc. These are easy to remember names for humans, however, our computers do not understand them. Our computers understand IP (Internet Protocol) addresses such as 67.228.199.237, which happens to be ppcgeeks.com. Whenever you make a request on the internet to get data from a website your computer is resolving that human readable name to a computer friendly IP address. To do this, you must have a couple of DNS servers specified in your network configuration. DNS, or Domain Name Server, servers solely exist to convert human readable names to computer IP addresses. Everytime you request a website the DNS server is first called upon to get the physical IP of that site. If the DNS server is slow, or out of date, then you may not get the physical address, which in turn will cause the "Failed to Connect" error. This is what I believe some of you are experience with the latest XM changes. Whew!

As you all know XM had recently made a change to one of their human readable internet names, which broke C-ApiSRO, and how it retrieved channel listings. They changed http://xmro.xmradio.com to https://xmro-secure.xmradio.com. It's quite possible this change is not getting propagated to your DNS servers. Two things to note with this change:

1. The host name or human readable name has changed from xmro.xmradio.com to xmro-secure.xmradio.com. This is a Domain Name change and it's quite possible the DNS servers that you are configured with don't understand this change. I can probably test this theory be releasing a version of C-ApiSRO that uses the physical IP address instead of the name. This would bypass the need for DNS and if it works then we will know for sure you are having DNS issues.
2. The second change is that they are now using a secure HTTP protocol (HTTPS). Previously they used the HTTP protocol and now they are using HTTPS. It's possible that this is causing some of you grief as well, but I haven't quite figured out how. Might have something to do with address translations or route tables on your phone providers network, but I don't know for sure.

For those of you who are able to do so, I recommend you change the DNS servers configured for your phone network. Your phone is probably set up to use default DNS servers defined by your phone provider. Change those servers to use OpenDNS or something similar. I WILL NOT get into detail on how to do this. Do a google search to see if you can figure out how to do it. Maybe someone on this group can help you out. I just don't have time to handle the tons of questions that this topic would bring up.

In any case, if you do change your DNS server settings to use OpenDNS or something of the sort, please report your findings. I'm curious to know how it turns out for you.

****** QUICK TEST ******
A quick test would be to open up the web browser on your phone and try to access the https://xmro-secure.xmradio.com website. If you get a web page then the name resolved fine, otherwise you will get a "Page not found" or something like that. No web page probably means no DNS. Make sure you run this test using the same network that C-ApiSRO fails under.

I'm sorry this post is yet another long one. There is just no way to explain this in layman's terms.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Yup... same issues for me too. Sprint Mogul... XM worked fine. Now... it shows it's logged in, but no station lineup. UGH!

Anyone find an easy fix yet?

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

R-Capi, excellent program! Worked like a charm on my PPC-6800. I recently picked up the Diamond, and when I go to log onto Sirius, the CAPTCHA box does not appear. I'll keep tinkering with things to see if I can fix it, but I just wanted to inform you of the issue (I saw it mentioned earlier in this thread too.), and would like to offer any assistance I can provide to you (logs, testing, etc).

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

If someone knows the IP address... Another way is to use a program like PocketHosts to manually add the entry to your PPC, bypassing any DNS server... Disadvantage of this method is if the IP address changes, you will need to manually change the hosts file again...

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

this version hant worked for me in the slightest. tells me username or password is wrong. it works everywhere else.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Ok, so after installing/uninstalling/resetting/repeat i have yet to get the captcha text to show unless synced to the computer(just like cal2ya, also using alltel vouge/touch) even after being synced and logging in yet to get a channel to load and play....is a headset required to hear audio? Any suggestions appreciated.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Read post #111 (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=111) and see if you can access XM's webpage using your phones web browser as explained in the "Quick Test" paragraph. Let us know if you get a page back.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Yes... I was able to open the webpage on my phone, with PIE, Opera Mini, and Skyfire.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

No, a headset is not required. This definitely sounds like you are having troubles making a connection. Don't be afraid to go into settings and enable logging. Send a private message to me with the log file for me to look at.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Yeah, some I've seen aren't CAPTCHA (which, BTW is actually Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart)... they're more like CAPTCFGA... where FG is Fricking Geniuses.


As for my ongoing issues with C-ApiSRO... I'm going to give up. It's a great LOOKING app, but it's never worked for me... ever. So it doesn't meet my most basic need in an app. I hope R-Capi continues to work on it, and will check back from time to time, but for now... I'm out.

Re: ****UPDATED**** C-ApiSRO - XM & Sirius Satellite Radio for PocketPC (PPC)
 

Any help?

THANKS! Not sure why it's not working all of a sudden. Worked fine before, now the station list will not show up for XM. Sirius works fine...