Why is Opera mobile so crappy? (Rant)

[eric12341]

This is another one of my multi-site threads, allright now lets get started with my claims. I will start with talking about the very first version of opera mobile ive ever used, it was 8.5.x it loaded the PC versions of every site BUT it would often cry low memory and then crash and it would also not display text right (larger than normal even with settings on minimum) and when i would type it would input large spaces in between words and yet we were expected to pay $29.99 for it (were they crazy?).

Now that i am on my HTC touch pro which comes with opera 9.5 preinstalled it runs pretty stable but there are still problems.

-it cries low memory even tho i have plenty of RAM free and then stops loading a webpage.

-regular links dont respond when i click them unless i do it about after 20 times or so

-mobile site redirects (but this is fixed with the UA hacks)

-rendering problems on sites, certain boxes dont pop up (ie. facebook friend request dialogs.),cant respond to messages on myspace.com or compose new ones, this means i cant do a new browse when away from the computer.opera officials and tech bloggers cite that opera mobile has excellent ajax and web standards support tho my experience is quite the opposite.

-when typing the screen does not scroll over as i type.

-CANT even close it or access it from the task manager unless you do some hacking.

-links sometimes dont respond unless i pull out stylus or press on it multiple times.

-CANT render the frames on my schools student websites properly (ie blackboard NOTE: PIE does this perfectly)

-CRASHES when trying to access this site.

I've also tried most of the opera 9.7 betas and its improved all issues I've had with opera 9.5 except:

-mobile site redirects are worse even with the UA hacks

-screen corruption problems when i recieve a text message, email or IM
-tap and hold menus sometimes dont work
-still cant send messages on myspace and other networking sites

now we are at opera 10 the latest beta suffers these problems

-memory hog
-graphics on sites are pixelated
-does not play nice with OzIM
-mobile redirects are solved with UA hacks tho i would like to see them resolved without having to do this.
-STILL cannot send messages on myspace and tagged.com but at least can send friend requests and access notifications on facebook so thats an improvement.
-when typing with the touch screen, the type cursor moves back to the top line which causes me to have to use the hardware keyboard when typing 2 line messages.


WHY cant they get it right? the iris browser does not suffer these problems only thing i dont like about it is theres no text reflow when zooming in IM not giving them any of my $$$ until all these problems are resolved and also if it will have flash support. has anyone found other issues other than those i have reported? and is there a build of opera mobile that does not suffer these issues, if so can i have a link to it?

[PropagandaX]

I tried to read your entire thread but then I was thinking "why is internet explorer mobile so crappy

[snowplow54]

I am using opera 10 Beta 2U, and I am not having these issues on my diamond.
- I have had no memory issues, maybe using a program like memaid might help you free up some space.
- if you have the "turbo" option selected, graphics may show up pixelated.
- I don't use OZim so i cannot help you there
- mobile redirects happen on every device, and every browser. sorry
- by sending messages to you mean using the myspace IM option, or just sending someone a PM? if its just sending a PM, you can do that easily through the mobile site. as for tagged.com, i don't use that site, so i cannot offer a solution.
- I have no idea why you're having this issue, i have never had a problem with using the keyboard on opera mobile. Maybe someone using the same phone/ROM would be able to shed a little more light on it.

No browser is perfect, and Opera is still in Beta, so it's bound to have some bugs. Luckily you don't have to give them any money, as they are offering it to the public for free. One of the reasons they do this is to get feedback on what to fix, and what features the consumer wants. so if these are issues you would like fixed in the next version, I'm sure opera would love to hear from you. It allows them to develop a better product, and thats good for everyone. Go here to reports bugs: http://www.opera.com/support/bugs/

[muyoso]

I only scanned your post for keywords because I really didn't feel like hearing your gripes with every version of Opera Mobile when no one even uses the old versions anymore, but I can say that I have had none of the issues that you complain about in 9.5 and 9.7, the two versions most widely used right now. I have used the same phones alongside the same versions of Opera that you have, and have run into none of those problems.

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by snowplow54

I am using opera 10 Beta 2U, and I am not having these issues on my diamond.
- I have had no memory issues, maybe using a program like memaid might help you free up some space.
- if you have the "turbo" option selected, graphics may show up pixelated.
- I don't use OZim so i cannot help you there
- mobile redirects happen on every device, and every browser. sorry
- by sending messages to you mean using the myspace IM option, or just sending someone a PM? if its just sending a PM, you can do that easily through the mobile site. as for tagged.com, i don't use that site, so i cannot offer a solution.
- I have no idea why you're having this issue, i have never had a problem with using the keyboard on opera mobile. Maybe someone using the same phone/ROM would be able to shed a little more light on it.

No browser is perfect, and Opera is still in Beta, so it's bound to have some bugs. Luckily you don't have to give them any money, as they are offering it to the public for free. One of the reasons they do this is to get feedback on what to fix, and what features the consumer wants. so if these are issues you would like fixed in the next version, I'm sure opera would love to hear from you. It allows them to develop a better product, and thats good for everyone. Go here to reports bugs: http://www.opera.com/support/bugs/

on myspace i mean when you browse and send someone a regular message from the browse , you cant do that, and you cant browse at all from the mobile site. iris browser does not do any mobile redirects (as long as desktop mode is enabled)

and in the Internet explorer i used in the custom roms, these issues werent present but my phone always bricks within 24 hours of flashing one so no go there

[lipidfats]

i like opera mobile 10, but it's too slow and still has poor rendering. i hate the lag when scrolling through pages. its also crashes or has problems with several custom ROMs cause of memory and other issues. om9.5/9.7 were faster, but didn't have some of the cool options. I end up using opera mini for its speed, but that has big problems too - when you click links sometimes it opens the wrong address and you have to try several times....

it seems you covered most browsers, but what about the latest version of skyfire? no rant for that?

[Maltadav]

The irony of all this is that I am posting this from my HTC Kaiser, using opera mobile. I have the java that came installed with the kaiser itself, maybe you have an old java version?
I find it extremely fast when compared to any other browser. The only problem is that you can't select text and that flash movies don't play.
Sometimes I use skyfire which is slower than opera, but way cooler, and frendlier. Make sure you have the latest version of opera and java, and you won't be saying that opera sucks anymore!

[inixs]

Originally Posted by Maltadav

Make sure you have the latest version of opera and java, and you won't be saying that opera sucks anymore!

You sure you're talking about Opera Mobile? I've never heard you need Java to run it. But I know for sure that that's the case for Opera Mini. Both come from the same company but are completely different affairs.

[Maltadav]

Sorry, my mistake ^^
I meant opera mini

[Erik123]

I have noticed it to, while using opera 10, that some of the pages dont load up properly, sometimes when I'm trying to see a pic in a bigger format, i get a an X and nothing shows up, frustrating, i think i might have to go try skyfire.