PhoneFusion Questions

[Austin808]

Originally Posted by vne147

1. Stop PhoneFusion from automatically launching when a message is received - That's done.
2. Make the new voicemail notification show up on the Today screen - That's done.
3. Launch the PhoneFusion app when and only when I want to by tapping the the notification - Not done.
4. Stop the PFMA formatted text from showing up in my inbox - Not done.

While testing this I found that if you do #1, then you will always get the SMS message in your inbox. I think the rule works by launching FVM and passing it the SMS message to process, then FVM deletes the message so you never see it.

I decided its best to just minimize FVM since it does not take much resources.

#2 was easy to do, but the problem is I have not found a way to make clicking on it do anything, but dial a number.

#3 I found that with FVM running and minimized that there is an icon in the taskbar that if I click on will bring up FVM.

#4 I was unable to find a way to prevent this without allowing FVM to run from the rule.

I am still looking for a good way to force audioroute to run when the message is played. But so far this does not seem possible without keeping the mortscript running in the background since I can not find a way to make the VM indicator launch anything but the dialer.

I'll see what else I can find, but I don't think a very smooth integration can be made without hacking manilla which I have no idea how to do.

[vne147]

Originally Posted by Austin808

While testing this I found that if you do #1, then you will always get the SMS message in your inbox. I think the rule works by launching FVM and passing it the SMS message to process, then FVM deletes the message so you never see it.

I decided its best to just minimize FVM since it does not take much resources.

#2 was easy to do, but the problem is I have not found a way to make clicking on it do anything, but dial a number.

#3 I found that with FVM running and minimized that there is an icon in the taskbar that if I click on will bring up FVM.

#4 I was unable to find a way to prevent this without allowing FVM to run from the rule.

I am still looking for a good way to force audioroute to run when the message is played. But so far this does not seem possible without keeping the mortscript running in the background since I can not find a way to make the VM indicator launch anything but the dialer.

I'll see what else I can find, but I don't think a very smooth integration can be made without hacking manilla which I have no idea how to do.

I agree with what you're thinking about how FVM works to prevent the PFMA text from showing up in the inbox. Right now I'm exploring API options for deleting it. If I figure it out I could have the first mortscript make that happen.

I also have been unable to figure out how to change the action associated with clicking the notification. I don't know how to hack into Manila either but this could be my oppourtunity to learn. Lots of times I'll spending more effort than necessary doing something simple just so I can learn more about it. I don't necessarily care that there might be easier ways to do it.

I also agree that leaving FVM running is an option. You can also add it to the exception list so it doesn't show up in the task manager menu. It does however use between 5-7% of my available RAM and I like to limit that as much as possible.

So, is it a giant incovienience to just use FVM as it was intended and keep it running all the time...no. But if I make my idea work, that would be much better, IMHO.

[Austin808]

Originally Posted by vne147

So, is it a giant incovienience to just use FVM as it was intended and keep it running all the time...no. But if I make my idea work, that would be much better, IMHO.

I am not thinking of leaving it running all the time. Just until you check your voicemails. Once you check it you can shut down the FVM client.

I am hoping to have something fully working by the end of the weekend. If you find out how to launch an app by clicking on the VM indicator that would make this solution very usable.

[PhoneFusion]

In case you haven't guessed already I'm one of the developers for this so I have intimate knowledge of it.

I have on my list of things to do the following (in no order):
1. build a player so I can control audio output (on certain devices)
2. create a non-sms/cached version
3. modify it so that I know if it was launced from a message or the UI and act differently. non-ui would download, notify and exit.
4. increment/decrement voicemail counter. Launching from existing vm notification is going to be an issue that I don't know we can taclke.
5. today/home screen integration


It's a long list and not a small amount of work. I'm currently working on the Android version as well as other things and we just got done with CTIA in San Diego where we were in MS's booth for the second time in a row. So busy is an understatement.


We have problems with Sprint on every device. They just don't care about subscribers and they want VM that integrates with their old archaic systems and it's just not possible.

When development starts back up on this again I'll add some people to our beta group if they want. Please don't ask me when I'm going to fire up Visual Studio!

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by PhoneFusion

We have problems with Sprint on every device. They just don't care about subscribers and they want VM that integrates with their old archaic systems and it's just not possible.

When development starts back up on this again I'll add some people to our beta group if they want. Please don't ask me when I'm going to fire up Visual Studio!

Yeah sprint is killing me with this, i really wish they would open their eyes and offer this as a product.

anyways its good to have you in the community, thanks for taking the time to explain everything. Like herbal said if you need beta testers i'm more then willing to help out. I'm probably one of the very few sprint users that actually have this service.

[vne147]

Originally Posted by PhoneFusion

In case you haven't guessed already I'm one of the developers for this so I have intimate knowledge of it.

I figured it out. I think it might have been the name that gave it away. Either that or the informed responses.

Thanks for chiming in and I would certainly be interested in beta testing.

Just out of curiosity, why do you say that launching from the existing VM notification is such an issue?

[PhoneFusion]

Originally Posted by vne147

Just out of curiosity, why do you say that launching from the existing VM notification is such an issue?

Because what it's designed to do is dial the vm # not launch an app and I haven't found anyplace to hook into that. I have to take into account all of the different devices & OS's. For example, the T-mobile dash can't use the service because for some od reason TM has changed how messaging works on that device and we can't get the text messages. Don't know about the dash 2. It's little irritating things like that can drive me nuts.

So what works on one may not work on another. So in the WM world, it's the carriers that cause problems. In the Android world it's Google, the iphone's got Apple. At least MS has given us some info to help us and devices to test with.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by PhoneFusion

Because what it's designed to do is dial the vm # not launch an app and I haven't found anyplace to hook into that. I have to take into account all of the different devices & OS's. For example, the T-mobile dash can't use the service because for some od reason TM has changed how messaging works on that device and we can't get the text messages. Don't know about the dash 2. It's little irritating things like that can drive me nuts.

So what works on one may not work on another. So in the WM world, it's the carriers that cause problems. In the Android world it's Google, the iphone's got Apple. At least MS has given us some info to help us and devices to test with.

Mr Phone Fusion, I don't know if you have a chance to play around with the new leo roms and the new messaging app. If you have the new htc messaging app installed it breaks the phone fusion program, voicemails will not download and you get the stupid text message notification, is there a simple reg edit to fix this?

[amcq10]

Originally Posted by PhoneFusion

When development starts back up on this again I'll add some people to our beta group if they want. Please don't ask me when I'm going to fire up Visual Studio!

I'll put my name in for a Beta tester for this.

I've currently got VzW Touch Pro2, with FVM+ 2.3. all seems to be working as it should be.