{{Basic Clock Array for Sense 2.5.xxxx}}{{with and without B4all}}

[laymanspc]

Originally Posted by santod

Thanks! I appreciate that! I'm still learnin' though! Hope I always am!

A day spent a man doesn't learn something new, was a day spent in waste. Unsure who originally coined the phrase, but my grandfather said it often.

Originally Posted by santod

I have not heard that from anyone else yet, and have not seen the issue yet on my device, with multiple roms. So I'm guessing something in the clock files you installed has interfered, or overwritten. As it is setup to read the same on both, always by default with my setup. If you would like to reinstall and restart to see if the issue is corrected, then you will know.

My flip clock has no AM or PM listed, it is one of your clocks. AM/PM exists only on my analog (it just stays on PM). The 'Santod Mods 2.5 Chrome Trans Flip Outlined' is what I use for the flip. I'm going to test removing the two clock files, then your array. Check for proper operation by manually changing the time, then reinstall your array, your flip, then the analog, and I will test at each step and report back shortly.

Originally Posted by santod

Or if you would like to post the clock files you applied, I could take a look and see if I can correct the issue that clock that you found is causing. Let me know.

Attached, enjoy.

Thanks for the fast reply, sorry I'm not as quick. I get all sorts of compliments on your clock array from people who just happen to see it (I carry my phone in hand most times and it is typically never idle enough to lock). Just wanted you to know the love for your mods extends even beyond those that use them.

[santod]

Quote:
Originally Posted by santod
Or if you would like to post the clock files you applied, I could take a look and see if I can correct the issue that clock that you found is causing. Let me know.

Attached, enjoy.

Thanks for the fast reply, sorry I'm not as quick. I get all sorts of compliments on your clock array from people who just happen to see it (I carry my phone in hand most times and it is typically never idle enough to lock). Just wanted you to know the love for your mods extends even beyond those that use them.

Ok, I have seen that. That pack will interfere with my mods slightly, but I can gladly recab just the clocks out of it individually, if you would like.
Also, I will look into the AM/PM in all clock packages. My original intention with them was to leave the AM/PM out. Which would result in you keeping the one you have. Typically white. The reason for that, was because the AM/PM share the same image as your calendar and alarm icons. If you have removed those, or colored them and I add the image into my clocks, then it will have undone your calendar and alarm icon mod. I hate when one thing changes another. That was the reason for leaving it out completely. However. If you remove all clocks and then just install those. You may result in losing the AM/PM, calendar and alarm icons completely, as you experienced with the AM/PM.
Anyway, I hope that makes some sense and I will probably just make all clocks include the AM/PM in white, with white calendar and alarm icons and then let others re apply any mod they want to do to those.
Well I hope that explains things a little and I will work on adding that file back in to each clock.
Glad you find that others like it too.
Oh and you should remove that file now as it may only cause issues being posted in this thread. Thanks! I've got the files.

[laymanspc]

OK,

I uninstalled all three, the two clock skins came out fine, the array said uninstall had failed and asked if I wanted to remove it from the list, I said NO. Softreset and tried uninstalling again, still claimed to fail, although after the soft reset it came up with Mighty's stock clock. So I tried to install it again, it complained the old version was there and would need removed, allowed that, then went through the install, requested a soft reset. It came back up with Mighty's clock, checked "remove programs" and the array wasn't listed. So I soft reset one more time, same thing, so I tried installing it and it installed properly with no complaints about previous version. Now the flipclock in the array is fine and the analog is stuck on PM, even with no clock skins installed. Hard Reset here I come.

[santod]

Originally Posted by laymanspc

OK,

I uninstalled all three, the two clock skins came out fine, the array said uninstall had failed and asked if I wanted to remove it from the list, I said NO. Softreset and tried uninstalling again, still claimed to fail, although after the soft reset it came up with Mighty's stock clock. So I tried to install it again, it complained the old version was there and would need removed, allowed that, then went through the install, requested a soft reset. It came back up with Mighty's clock, checked "remove programs" and the array wasn't listed. So I soft reset one more time, same thing, so I tried installing it and it installed properly with no complaints about previous version. Now the flipclock in the array is fine and the analog is stuck on PM, even with no clock skins installed. Hard Reset here I come.

No. don't hard reset! Remove the file above in your post. Still editing this post!
Let me look at something first. The uninstall of the array will always claim to fail when uninstalled, if you have changed out any clocks. After it fails, then reinstall, it will say it wants to remove the old, say yes, let it install. Then without a restart, reinstall again, it will not see the old at all now and will install. Then restart. I have gone through the same process many times with cabs that got modified when something else was installed. It will always work that way in that scenario.
Let me check the AM/PM issue before you go doin a hard reset though, as that is your only real issue at the moment. Although that may just be a result of you installing that cab above as well. That cab is actually written slightly different and although intended for 2.5.1922 it is really coded for 2.5.1921.

[laymanspc]

np, waiting, take your time. I was stating I was about to do it right then,, just that I foresee it coming

As far as recabbing that whole package of clocks, no need unless it is something you want to do. It would be appriciated if you could do that one single ring clock that I attached earlier. I'm a creature of habit and once I get things where I want they will not change. US Cellular has been after me for a year and a half to get a new phone and new contract, nothing they had interested me any more than my old moto razr I was using at the time. They had to give me this TP2 for free to get me to change (their four day sale starting black friday '09).

Between the lean and mean MR WAR12/30 and a few mods (mostly yours) and my apps I've deemed useful, I'm right where I need to be for speed, stability, and functionality. That's why I love your mods, I can get the perks of things I like without the weight or issues of the average mod. I've had no use to softreset my phone, and it's remained powered on and 100% functional since Saturday. I just so happened to FINALLY see the AM/PM issue last night (I actually see the home screen very little, a second at most before going to the function I'm after).

[santod]

Ok, first, remove that cab you posted, so we don't cause any conflicts. I got the cab already.
Now try installing this AM/PM fix .cab, reset and let me know what you get. I have not seen that before, but this might just fix it!
If not, yes hard reset. Then don't install clock arrays on top of one another. After installing an array, you need just the clock .cab itself for individual clocks after that.

Let me know and don't forget to remove that attachment. Thanks!

[laymanspc]

Originally Posted by santod

The uninstall of the array will always claim to fail when uninstalled, if you have changed out any clocks. After it fails, then reinstall, it will say it wants to remove the old, say yes, let it install. Then without a restart, reinstall again, it will not see the old at all now and will install. Then restart.

Tried and failed. Still locked on PM on the analog. Notta big deal to me to reset. But would love the single ring clock to not break things, it's nice with your 2.5 chrome trans flip outlined.


Thanks for all the assistance.

[santod]

Originally Posted by laymanspc

Tried and failed. Still locked on PM on the analog. Notta big deal to me to reset. But would love the single ring clock to not break things, it's nice with your 2.5 chrome trans flip outlined.


Thanks for all the assistance.

I will be happy to make that clock into something that is compatible with my array. What you had installed, over wrote my call settings for what sets the AM PM on the analog clock. That cab actually calls up something seperate for each clock. Which I see no point in it doing. As they should always be the same, so why not have them call up the same file for it. Less resources used.
Anyway, I will ask you again though, please remove that cab from your post as it is likely to only cause more issues by being there.
After you reset, and reinstall the clock array, please be sure to check your AM/PM first thing and let me know if that issue comes back! It definitely should not, but if it does, then I need to dig deeper. But I am almost certain it was that cab you installed, as I mentioned it is written differently and all you need on top of my array are the basic analog clock components. Not full arrays, as they will cause conflicts such as what you have experienced. Thanks!

[santod]

Dont reset, hang on a second!!

Da--it! Guess I missed ya'.
Here's the fix!

[laymanspc]

A KB? nice fix. Thanks a billion.

**edit** tried it, and the dang thing is STILL stuck on PM in the analog and doesn't change AM/PM when I change the time settings. The flip clock indicator goes away.

I'm thinking something else in the background is affecting it. I've performed some testing of mods and apps that were crap prior to getting it in the groove I liked. I've been planning a hard reset to clear out any file or registry reminants. I'll only do a hard reset if you say so, I haven't been in a hurry to up to this point, AM/PM issues don't put me in a rush any as long as appointments work (which they do). I realize this may be something you'd rather fix and am more than willing to be your guinea pig. I just want you to be aware it could possibly be due to something else I had installed and removed previously since my last hard reset. I can always get back to this point, and knowing the install is clean may help.

*edit2* Have tried a few installation scenarios for the AM/PM fix cab. First time was where we had left off and I only had your array installed and the PM locked in the analog but AM/PM displayed properly on flip as described above. Then I thought maybe you intended the fix to go over my clocks I had chosen, so I removed the patch, installed the clock skins, and reapplied the patch. Still the same, analog with a locked PM indicator. Removed it all, applied the patch, it removed the AM/PM indicator from Mighty's stock flip clock, same as it had from the flip clock of your array. removed it again, started step by step and tried it all a second time in each possible order. Everytime the patch is applied it applies to only my flip clock.

Also: faulty analog skin cab is removed from the post above