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PropagandaX

03-06-2008 09:51 PM

Re: Mogul Update

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moekind (Post 205421)

minozo
any word on when the touch update will come out?

Just curious, did you trade your mogul in for a touch?

delawaresace

03-06-2008 09:55 PM

Re: Mogul Update

Quote:

Originally Posted by alabij (Post 205481)

What I would like to know is why Sprint MMS has been removed/ never added to the Windows Mobile Platform. I'm pretty sure its not a billing issue. I was with T-Mo for 6 years and used the XDA, Ipaq 6315 and Wizard(MDA) on their network and all phones fully supported MMS.

I'm not upset I'd just like to hear a logical reason WHY?

i've kept up on all the threads on SU, XDA, Buzz & here, and i **** you not, the reason why it was removed was becaue it was pirated software. sprint never paid for the liences. they figured we can send pic to email and thats good enough. there was never a stink about it because we always had the hack. now that that's been shot down, we need to let them know that we want MMS and they need to stop being so cheep.

cj10488

03-06-2008 10:34 PM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

They just told you in Tier2 support about this?

I have been posting said information since last week and it was Officially qualified in the Labs Last Friday... Talk about prep for you guys...

Anyways No it will not have WM 6.1... No it will not have SprintTv.. No it will not have picturemail.

James

gbm85

03-06-2008 10:39 PM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizono (Post 205284)

The application ... cannot be downloaded over the air.

no2chem would beg to differ :p

blasphemous_prime

03-06-2008 10:42 PM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Well, I too will hold my breath for this one to be released... Otherwise, I'm jumping right to the Touch regardless of if it runs up a fever pitch in my pocket for no reason. lol. J/K, I'm patient.

dshedrick

03-06-2008 10:55 PM

Re: Mogul Update

Quote:

Originally Posted by chirulz (Post 205524)

but if they unlock gps will it only work with theyre program so you have to pay for it, or is it one of those "work around" things. I really like google maps. but at the same time I dont want to have to pay for it. i know i'm not alone on this. By the way just a question but is there going to be a kitchen like Helmi's. it was the best and easiest i ever used. thanks

It works with other gps programs. I'm using google maps with mine and it works fine.

cansofspam

03-06-2008 10:57 PM

Re: Mogul Update

Quote:

Originally Posted by mines03 (Post 205423)

yeah i work for sprint too, just left a meeting with HTC, and can comfurm that the rom will come out 9:00 am eastern time. The touch will recieve the GPS update within 2 months

Do you know if EVDO rev A will be included with the touch/vogue update?

ricchini2007

03-06-2008 10:58 PM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

its funny that i have to carry a sanyo m1 for picturemail because sprint lacks features on the mogul. it makes me want to turn back on my dumb phone so i can belong to a dumb company makes no sense.

cj10488

03-06-2008 11:02 PM

Re: Mogul Update

Quote:

Originally Posted by cansofspam (Post 205670)

Do you know if EVDO rev A will be included?

Rev A will be included..

James

dbigyun

03-06-2008 11:05 PM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Its about time. Will this also fix the BT problem? I didn't see anything about it in the email.

cansofspam

03-06-2008 11:08 PM

Re: Mogul Update

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj10488 (Post 205679)

Rev A will be included..

James

perhaps I should've been more specific since this is a mogul thread...
maybe you realized I was talking about the vogue.
but in case you didn't I'm referring to the touch/vogue

[sammich]

03-06-2008 11:31 PM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Seems credible. Thanks for the information!

Just a word of warning... there will be a lot of angry people if this doesn't happen, your fault or not. People here are getting very anxious about this ROM!

Keep us posted!

cj10488

03-06-2008 11:38 PM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

No the only enhancement for BT what Stereo Headset support...

cj10488

03-06-2008 11:38 PM

Re: Mogul Update

Quote:

Originally Posted by cansofspam (Post 205692)

perhaps I should've been more specific since this is a mogul thread...
maybe you realized I was talking about the vogue.
but in case you didn't I'm referring to the touch/vogue

Thats what I was talking about... Yes it will be included for the Touch when It comes out...

James

i360	03-06-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Thanks for the info!

I hope it addresses the frequent internet disconnects that occur with the test rom.

I find it troubling that we are unable to use picture mail. My co-workers all have different carriers with basic kinda phones and send things back and forth all the time. Where as I have this expensive over the top phone which cannot. I mean granted the things that can be done with these phones, but no picture mail? Yeah that makes perfect sense......:scratch:

iceblue

03-06-2008 11:56 PM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

This matches the time date I received from Alltel. but I see no further word on Alltels WM 6.0-1 release. Should we expect this ROM to be ported as 6.1 for alltel?

Glad someone else final posted the reason MMS is not on sprint is because they didn’t pay for the license for it on there phones. All devices with WM6.0 are capable of sending MMS.

bedoig

03-07-2008 12:40 AM

Re: Mogul Update

Looks like I'm late to the party, but two things.

First:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nautica2450 (Post 205436)

(having Mr T in my avatar is having strange effects on me.... sorry)

and,

Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 205533)

good info... looks like a good month - apple released a free iphone/touch sdk and htc/sprint finally got this turd pushed out... yay!

Too funny, LOL! Literally, laugh out loud. I'm reading this in bed and I almost woke my wife up.

Second. This actually sounds somewhat credible. If nothing else it is a reason to look forward to Monday morning : )

monkey

03-07-2008 01:05 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricchini2007 (Post 205672)

its funny that i have to carry a sanyo m1 for picturemail because sprint lacks features on the mogul. it makes me want to turn back on my dumb phone so i can belong to a dumb company makes no sense.

I have to carry either my V3XX or my CDM1450 in order to send pictures. I'm getting tired of Sprint being so damn cheap. It makes me want to also get a dumbphone or just change carriers...but i don't want to pay the ETF...This update better be the Jesus of the MOgul updates!!!11

JoeBobOneHalf

03-07-2008 01:09 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

I love how this is turning into a no mms thread.
Still i hope it doesn't have the memory problems the beta did

nutymez

03-07-2008 01:13 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Am I the only one who still wishes Sprint gives us OZ Messenger in a Rom update.... but this update seems credible, I look forward to Monday

Genjinaro

03-07-2008 01:26 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Man I hope it's available before 5pm Monday or else sleep is not going to be the highlight of the night.

monkey

03-07-2008 01:31 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutymez (Post 205862)

Am I the only one who still wishes Sprint gives us OZ Messenger in a Rom update.... but this update seems credible, I look forward to Monday

Alot of us wish alot of things from Sprint.

Success100

03-07-2008 01:36 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

thats the only thing I want from sprint is OZ. Its not hard for them to do, the mogul and touch has the exact same chipsets, that use the same exact network, and runs the same damn operating systems. i just dont get it sprint

Genjinaro

03-07-2008 01:57 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Quote:

Originally Posted by Success100 (Post 205883)

I see this brought up a lot so it must be good.

Can it be taken from the Touch/Other HTC or does it throw a unauthorized "blah blah blah" like statement?

Radar

03-07-2008 02:01 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

if this comes out monday then I am going to have a very looong day at work and a long night tweaking this thing again.. new rom.. new setup!

just a quick question.. what's OZ?

mofotrucker

03-07-2008 02:31 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Oh well I'm going to be working in Hobbs, Nm start my new job In HalliBurton, :headbang:! but I will have my Laptop hope theres Evdo up there so i can tether :D

SDODOM

03-07-2008 04:58 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

I have been awaiting this since early September. I have the $25 data plan which includes GPS, SprintTV, etc. All the stuff that I pay for, but can't use. Stuff that Sprint has the capabilities of including in this very expensive phone, but chooses not to (for whatever reason). If they can monitor all of the updates that are out there to tweak the PPC & make SprintTV work on our Moguls, just so that they can throw out a counter update that blocks the access, why not put some of that energy and money into providing us with what's needed to bring this thing up to par? If they keep on the roll, they may just spend close to what it would cost them to get SMS, TV, GPS, etc in order. Just ranting. I look forward to Monday's update.

Sprint, GIVE US OUR TV, SMS, GPS that many of us are already paying for anyhow, or let us develop something that would give us that access, and leave us be.

majickman

03-07-2008 08:19 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

I'm using the beta version of 3.16 and OZ works and can be found here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment...3&d=1201854534

Oh an I must say having the built in GPS is nice I do a lot of driving for work so it comes in handy and means I don't have to use my BlueTooth GPS unit causing more power drain.

jrbowie

03-07-2008 08:29 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

OK, I have to put this out there, please forgive me.

I don't think Sprint is being cheap right now. I think Sprint is in some serious money trouble.

Did anyone here see the reports that Sprint lost 6 billion more than they are worth in the last quarter of 2007?

We should be grateful anyone gets anything right now. I work in the commercial finance world and most companies that loose 6 billion more than they are worth start pushing up daisies.

Just one mans opinion.

dzuchowski

03-07-2008 09:05 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizono (Post 205284)

Ok I know how many threads have come and gone about this. I do work for sprint I am Tier 2 support. We just recieved literally a minute ago stating that 3.35.651.2 with a ROM date of 2/22/08 will be released 03/10. I have coppied as much as I can from the email regarding this. Please dont flame im not trying to stir anything up.

A maintenance release for the Mogul (PPC 6800) will be available on 3/10/08 from HTCs site. The new ROM version is 3.35.651.2 with a ROM date of 2/22/08.
It provides several key updates:
Added GPS Support
Added Sprint Navigation ApplicationAdded Qualcomm EVDO RevA upgrade
Added Task Manager to Today ScreenIt is recommended that all users update their ROM to take advantage of these enhancements. Users must back-up any data added to their device before updating the software. Instructions and the software download are posted at http://www.america.htc.com/mogulupdate
Customers must download the software upgrade application (RUU) to a PC, and then install it to their Mogul by connecting the Mogul to their PC using the USB cable provided in the box. The application will not run on MAC machines, and cannot be downloaded over the air.
Before running the ROM Upgrade Utility (RUU), customers must make sure they do the following first::
Tip: If you are having challenges connecting with ActiveSync, please try: Start > Settings > Connection Tab > USB to PC > Deselect Enable advanced network functionality.
The standby and hibernation modes are disabled on the computer.
All running applications on the computer have been closed.
Ensure that you device has a battery level of at least 50% (Start > Settings > System Tab > Power > Battery Tab). If the battery "dies" during the upgrade process, there is a chance that it will not recover and will need to be sent for repairs.
The update can take up to 25 minutes so set aside time when you will not be interrupted.
All data will be deleted from the device during the upgrade (music, pictures, 3rd party applications, etc); be sure to back up all of your data using ActiveSync prior to upgrading.
Do not interrupt the upgrade process or press any buttons until the process has been completed (the device will reset itself when the update is done).
General Procedure on Installing the ROM Update
Back up your personal data from the Mobile Device to your computer using ActiveSync if you want to ensure you don't lose any of your data. For more information on how to back up and restore your data, click here.
On your computer, run the ROM Update Utility (RUU) to install the ROM update to your Mobile Device. (The next section provides a detailed procedure on how to install the ROM Update).
Restore your personal data back to your Mobile Device using ActiveSync. (Optional)
WARNING: During the upgrade process, do not attempt to make/receive calls, press any buttons on your device or disconnect the device from the USB cable as this will stop the update and your device will be rendered inoperable!!!
The upgrade process takes up to 25 minutes. It is recommended that you close all programs on your PC prior to starting the update program and do not open any applications or files while the update is in process. All personal data stored on the device will be lost. Make sure you save all pictures, videos, and important files to your PC prior to performing the update process.
©2007 Sprint Nextel. All rights reserved. SPRINT PROPRIETARY - INTERNAL USE ONLY

WHAT NO FRICKEN WINDOWS MOBILE 6.1 THAT HAS BEEN THE RUMOR. i WILL BE VERY UPSET THAT IT WILL NOT HAVE WM6.1 ON IT.

PLEASE CALL:
Office of the CEO
Meghan Land - 703-433-4094

Goddbody

03-07-2008 09:26 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutymez (Post 205862)

Am I the only one who still wishes Sprint gives us OZ Messenger in a Rom update.... but this update seems credible, I look forward to Monday

Why would you want OZ when you can use Palringo which allows for IMs with other Messenger programs?

I am also glad that this ROM is finally coming out, but it will be interesting to see what bugs we face considering how long it took to get here. I expect a well polish update and nothing less.

jourabchid

03-07-2008 09:31 AM

Re: Mogul Update

hmmm maybe we can get our hands on another leak...heh

good lookin out guys, when i came around to read this i thought it was just more speculation, but i just got a confirmation about the release so its only a matter of hours or 3 days....ill keep you all in the know...

oh yeah PARLINGO FTW....the best client ive used for sure...

mugsymd

03-07-2008 09:41 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Where can you find your contacts - I don't want to lose that file?

l33tlinuxh4x0r

03-07-2008 09:45 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

use dotfred's PIM backup found > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705 or you can use NS Contacts backup found > http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities...tsbackup.shtml

DAMBRO24

03-07-2008 09:58 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

I see that the gps program is going tot be included. does this mean that we can use this for free? no charge since we have the gps biult in now?

Machinehead

03-07-2008 10:10 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMBRO24 (Post 206117)

I see that the gps program is going tot be included. does this mean that we can use this for free? no charge since we have the gps biult in now?

No way, it's included so you'll want to pay for their service rather than install a 3rd party app.

crimekilla

03-07-2008 10:11 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Oh what beautiful timing,
I just got a brand new replacement Mogul (due to the growing white dot on the bottom left corner) and its not even a refurb.
ahh such a pretty new screen, such crisp buttons, and a new rom to complete it.
life is good. yes life is good
is it wrong to love a piece of electrical equipment with such ferocity.

Success100

03-07-2008 10:12 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goddbody (Post 206100)

because we hate the fact that palringo has bugs and that it rapes the battery by keeping the data connection open. The reason we want OZ is because its not data connection driven program. OZ uses texts messages, and in this day in age, the vast majority of us have unlimited text. On top of that palringo goes thru some type of server that then connects to the clients servers, whereas OZ communicates directly with the clients servers, if i am correct. If i am wrong someone feel free to correct me.

tech	03-07-2008 10:22 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

use the sprint force lol!!!

proxcee

03-07-2008 10:23 AM

Re: Mogul Update - ROM "Speculation" Thread Part II

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMBRO24 (Post 206117)

I see that the gps program is going tot be included. does this mean that we can use this for free? no charge since we have the gps biult in now?

Although one can never tell with Sprint...I would definitely assume so. It would be like handing you a knife, fork, and and empty plate and saying "Enjoy your meal". Sorry to be the one to knit pick but wouldn't Mar. 10th be considered "late" Q1 08? While this rom is ..."and has"...been something to look forward to, I would suggest waiting to see what happens on Monday before we all start caressing each other. ;)

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