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Old 11-27-2011, 06:11 PM
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Re: ATTENTION TO ALL :: : Carrier IQ threatens to sue TrevE/UPDATED APOLOGY LETTER V

It's too late for an apology, they shot themselves in the foot by issuing a C&D because if CIQ wasn't in the public eye beforehand, it sure is now. Cue the Streisand effect, they are going to go out of business.

You can see in the YouTube video posted by the company that the CEO is basically begging people to believe that they mean no harm. Maybe they truly do believe that spying on users without any notification or any way to opt out is the right thing to do, who knows.

What I'm curious about is where HIPAA fits into all of this, because a lot of doctors are issued Android phones for work purposes. I would think that if any HIPAA protected information is sent out over a non compliant network and/or stored on non compliant servers without the consent of the patient, then it's pretty much over for CIQ, federally.
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Re: ATTENTION TO ALL :: : Carrier IQ threatens to sue TrevE/UPDATED APOLOGY LETTER V

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Your Smartphone Is Spying on You - Yahoo! News


This whole thing increases my dislike of google phones.
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Re: ATTENTION TO ALL :: : Carrier IQ threatens to sue TrevE/UPDATED APOLOGY LETTER V

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This whole thing increases my dislike of google phones.

All phones have this(in some shape or form), not just Android. The difference being is that since Android is open source you can actually remove it.
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This whole thing increases my dislike of google phones.

All phones have this(in some shape or form), not just Android. The difference being is that since Android is open source you can actually remove it.
Mine doesn't.
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Mine doesn't.
if its a tp2 were talking about your wrong sir.
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Mine doesn't.
if its a tp2 were talking about your wrong sir.
Yes, a TP2.
Really? I have never heard of a WinMo device with anything on it that resembles this carrier iq nonsense. Please enlighten me.
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Re: ATTENTION TO ALL :: : Carrier IQ threatens to sue TrevE/UPDATED APOLOGY LETTER V

Another article from FoxNews - Tens of Millions of Smartphones Come With Spyware Preinstalled, Security Analyst Says
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Yes, a TP2.
Really? I have never heard of a WinMo device with anything on it that resembles this carrier iq nonsense. Please enlighten me.
htc in general has been doing it for years, google "tp2 ciq"
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:56 PM
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Re: ATTENTION TO ALL :: : Carrier IQ threatens to sue TrevE/UPDATED APOLOGY LETTER V

This seems to be grabbing attention of major news networks...CarrierIQ declaring bankruptcy in 3-2-1 lol...Its a lot of bad publicity for the carriers and due to that they may end up dropping CarrierIQ (and then replacing it with something similar)

Their biggest mistake was threatening to sue him, in doing so they got the attention of the EFF which all major news networks follow. And even though its up to the major news networks whether or not no pick up a story, privacy violations are always a hot story.

There are a few mistakes in the article though, for example, the carriers don't need CarrierIQ to see your text messages or phone calls, the carriers are REQUIRED to keep copies of all that for a few years.

This is why my favorite line in that article from sprint is:

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Sprint told CNET earlier this month. "We collect enough information to understand the customer experience with devices on our network and how to address any connection problems, but we do not and cannot look at the contents of messages, photos, videos, etc., using this tool," Sprint continued.
aka they can using another tool lol

Also they have a misconception of HTTPS, only thing SSL does is secure the connection between you and the other side. If you have spyware on your pc/phone HTTPS is not intended to secure against that in any way or form.
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Yes, a TP2.
Really? I have never heard of a WinMo device with anything on it that resembles this carrier iq nonsense. Please enlighten me.
htc in general has been doing it for years, google "tp2 ciq"
I searched using bing and google and there was some speculation by ONE user that his TP2 might have some sort if CIQ registry entry on it.


All other articles and statements say that Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 phones do not have it.
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