WM7: LG Apollo, HTC Obsession and OS info

[capthr]

Good to see Sprint getting back in the game. Now have to see if I go for the Supersonic or wait for the Apollo.

wow, the Apollo's Specs are amazing!!!! WXGA!!!!!!

• Launching: August/September 2010
• CPU: Qualcomm QSD8650; 1.3GHz
• CDMA + GSM (aka a World Phone)
• EvDO + HSDPA
• Device Size: 115 x 57.5 x 11.2 mm
• Memory (RAM/ROM): 1GB/1GB
• External Storage: MicroSD (up to 32GB)
• Screen Size/Type: 3.8-inch capacitive AMOLED “Multitouch Supported”
• Screen Resolution: WXGA 1280 x 720 px
• Camera: 10-megapixel with flash and autofocus; HD 720p video@ 30fps
• Video Support: Windows Media Video (WMV), MPEG-4 (MP4/M4V) H.264, DVR-MS4
• Audio Support: Windows Media Audio (WMA), Advanced Audio Coding (AAC-LC), FairPlay DRM, MP3
• Battery: Removable 1400 mAh
• Talk Time: Up to 7.5 hours
• Standby Time: 288 hours
• Internet Use: 4.5 hours (3G), 6.5 hours (WiFi)
• Video Playback: 10 hours
• Audio Playback: 30 hours

[brownhornet]

Originally Posted by Mike20PR

wow, the Apollo's Specs are amazing!!!! WXGA!!!!!!

• Launching: August/September 2010
• CPU: Qualcomm QSD8650; 1.3GHz
• CDMA + GSM (aka a World Phone)
• EvDO + HSDPA
• Device Size: 115 x 57.5 x 11.2 mm
• Memory (RAM/ROM): 1GB/1GB
• External Storage: MicroSD (up to 32GB)
• Screen Size/Type: 3.8-inch capacitive AMOLED “Multitouch Supported”
• Screen Resolution: WXGA 1280 x 720 px
• Camera: 10-megapixel with flash and autofocus; HD 720p video@ 30fps
• Video Support: Windows Media Video (WMV), MPEG-4 (MP4/M4V) H.264, DVR-MS4
• Audio Support: Windows Media Audio (WMA), Advanced Audio Coding (AAC-LC), FairPlay DRM, MP3
• Battery: Removable 1400 mAh
• Talk Time: Up to 7.5 hours
• Standby Time: 288 hours
• Internet Use: 4.5 hours (3G), 6.5 hours (WiFi)
• Video Playback: 10 hours
• Audio Playback: 30 hours

Im not even getting excited about this... with those specs that phone is going to cost $1000

[Malatesta]

Originally Posted by brownhornet

Im not even getting excited about this... with those specs that phone is going to cost $1000

Possibly.

But here's my hunch: look at what MS has done in the past when they want to heavily compete in a market in which they are way behind. Specifically, think of one platform and their business model:

XBox

Their model was to sell the hardware below cost and woo developers (cue Ballmer, lol). That is, MS ate the cost difference on the XBox in order to gain market penetration. And by golly it worked. To put in perspective, MS did not even turn a profit on the XBox platform till mid 2008--six years after release and after they lost, literally, hundreds of millions of dollars.

I'm not saying I know MS will do the same with Seven, but I sure as hell would not be shocked. They have the pockets to do it and they are stubborn MoFos when they decided to do something.

Shoot, I kind of hope they do that. Put dream tech into the hands of ordinary people at below cost? That would crush their competitors or at least drain their resources. A wart of attrition, lol.

[Noir]

very good and researched article
however I have some doubts. If microsoft is slating a media edition 7 by 2011 and a business os for 2010 wouldn't that ideally mean 4 oses for mobile users to play with
6.5
6.6
7 media
7 business
by mid 2011?
that's a lot to me...from one company but in some ways its a bit intelligent in that it offers market diversity and simple solutions to manufacturers. Unless windows plans on phasing 6.5 due to its lackluster reception. But even still unique

I recall having a convo with chainfire of xda developers, and he argued that (at the time) the "flagship" device (for coding purpose) was a samsung i780. This raises some questions with relation to the coding specification of the business os (as I assume this was what he analyzed)

all that aside its a unique emphasis but also one stress of cloud computing - which is catch 22. Helpful but yea... I guess we will have to see february and eveyrthing...

great article

[imtjnotu]

Originally Posted by Malatesta

Possibly.

But here's my hunch: look at what MS has done in the past when they want to heavily compete in a market in which they are way behind. Specifically, think of one platform and their business model:

XBox

Their model was to sell the hardware below cost and woo developers (cue Ballmer, lol). That is, MS ate the cost difference on the XBox in order to gain market penetration. And by golly it worked. To put in perspective, MS did not even turn a profit on the XBox platform till mid 2008--six years after release and after they lost, literally, hundreds of millions of dollars.

I'm not saying I know MS will do the same with Seven, but I sure as hell would not be shocked. They have the pockets to do it and they are stubborn MoFos when they decided to do something.

Shoot, I kind of hope they do that. Put dream tech into the hands of ordinary people at below cost? That would crush their competitors or at least drain their resources. A wart of attrition, lol.

microsoft lost 4 billion dollars off the original xbox

but MS owned xbox and its right MS does not own LG...LG wants the profit and not MS....that is a big difference....

[Malatesta]

Originally Posted by imtjnotu

microsoft lost 4 billion dollars off the original xbox

but MS owned xbox and its right MS does not own LG...LG wants the profit and not MS....that is a big difference....

lol, thanks for the clarification. That's certainly a difference.

You're right about LG wants the profit, but what I was suggesting was that MS subsidize LG, so they can lower the price without hurting their bottom line.

MS eats the cost, LG can sell a $300 carrier subsidized phone instead of a $500 carrier subsidized one.

But like I said, that's all just speculation/guessing/wishful thinking. We'll find out more in the next few months, I'm sure.

I'm also skeptical about the LG screen resolution. We're working to confirm/dis-confirm this week.

[imtjnotu]

Originally Posted by Malatesta

lol, thanks for the clarification. That's certainly a difference.

You're right about LG wants the profit, but what I was suggesting was that MS subsidize LG, so they can lower the price without hurting their bottom line.

MS eats the cost, LG can sell a $300 carrier subsidized phone instead of a $500 carrier subsidized one.

But like I said, that's all just speculation/guessing/wishful thinking. We'll find out more in the next few months, I'm sure.

I'm also skeptical about the LG screen resolution. We're working to confirm/dis-confirm this week.

i get it do like MS or Sony and try and eat the cost for market gain and publicity...it could work...just the thing is with sprint i wouldnt pay over 400 with an upgrade for this phone....but that LG Apollos specs eath the Obsession alive