PPCGeeks boycott??

[Goddbody]

Originally Posted by wldthng842

The biggest problem is that us users were attacked for voicing our opinions about the mods. That is the reason that this thread has not died. If the mods would have taken our opinions with a grain of salt then this thread would have died where it belongs. I think this is especially evident that the most prominent mod on the forum (Pibe3 simply quit posting. I'm sure he read everything as he usually reads everything, but he read the comments, understands them, and moves on. It is the mods that felt the need to defend themselves that kept us explaining our thoughts. I think this has reached and pointless end and should be closed. I'm sorry you didn't like our comments, but they are what they are, comments. Take them or leave them.

I'm staying out of the spam infraction but that does sound pointless if true. I would suggest the admin looking into it to make sure the mods did as they should have. Giving an infraction for a post months old is just dumb.

actually it wasn't even a post. It was a hyperlink in my signature which I have justed removed. How many times has a user put a link in the room with advertisement on it. I encounter them almost every day in here. But I think it's save to say that it was a direct result of what I posted. The infraction reads "We don't need that here". smh

[wldthng842]

how much sense does that make? I thought that was the point of the sig line? Say what you want as it can be turned off by users that want to ignore it. I see links in them all the time. Who knows, there may have been another reason. I'm staying out of it and letting this thread die. The mods clearly heard my comments, it is up to them to do with it as they please. Peace

Out

[Pibe38]

Ok, stop... I'm typing my reply at the moment.

Goddbody, check your PMs. The infraction was not issued for the link on your signature, it was issued for the post that is linked to on the infraction PM. It is also on your quoted post.

While the infraction may say Spam Advertisement, it was meant that the content of the post was spam. That is simply a system limitation.

I will continue to type my reply now...

[wldthng842]

That comment did detract from the thread that it was in and was pointless. I have to agree with the mods on that one. I have not heard of any infraction abuse/misuse from mods, more along the lines of closing threads. Which in the end is their own decision as they were given the power and we were not.

P.s. I only came back to hear pibey and because I got a PM from Goddbody

[Goddbody]

okay I am officially mad now. How many times has a person put an acronym in a post to respond to something they felt was humerous but was off topic? Wldthng842 you comment in pms that it was wimpy..thats an understatement. i bet ole dude went to look something up to flag me for, but like you I am done with it now. I don't have time for childish games.

[Pibe38]

Regarding the point that seems to be predominant, is that some mods seem to close more threads than others. And even though I should not have to explain this, I will for the betterment (is that a word?) of the community.

This is a combination of some moderators being online more than others, and also the power a moderator has. For example, moderators (orange user names) only have power in their specific forum, while Super Mods have power all over the site.

Moderators help by posting about threads/posts they see in forums they don't have access to, then the first Super Mod to come online and see those posts goes in and takes care of them.

So... if, for example, I am online more often than others, and see all the posts by Moderators in our staff section, I will look like I am closing more threads than any other moderators.

Originally Posted by Goddbody

If you reread my post I never said that I had saved any threads. I said I started to but thought better of it. Anyway, your arguement today is better and more realistic then doing the thread in question. Yes you are human and Mods make mistakes. When these issues occur then simply say that, Don't try to defend the undefendable with puffed up arrogance like many of the Mods did during the subject thread and like one did in this thread "Not that it is any of your business". That is simply immaturity at best. One true point you made though, if you dont like the way a forum is run then leave. Great point, but what if we all decide to leave? Blank stare! My point here is that you all are not on the same page as far as moderating goes, no matter how many times you try to convince people that things are discussed. I'm too educated and have to many years under my belt to fall for that one.

Please don't misunderstand me, I never referred to us as being humans for making mistakes... I said we may miss things, and that is where we require assistance from our members by reporting the posts.

While you may not believe us, we discuss almost every thread closing, user infraction, and banning done on the site. A few exceptions are spam bots, questions done without searching, etc.

Also, I did read your post... by saying you started to save threads but then decided against it, at one point you had to have saved threads, and I was just pointing out that instead of saving them, pointing them out to moderators would be a better choice.

I don't feel anyone has defended their point with "puffed up arrogance". If a mistake is made, we will recognize it and apologize for it.

Originally Posted by Goddbody

One true point you made though, if you dont like the way a forum is run then leave. Great point, but what if we all decide to leave? Blank stare!

The point here is, that not everyone has left... in fact, the number of users that have left (at least publically) is far less than the amount of users we gain every day.

I also assure you that if Wideawake felt users were leaving for a specific moderator, that moderator would be removed from the roster. This is his site, and he wants nothing but success for it.

Originally Posted by Goddbody

Dear Goddbody,

You have received an infraction at PPCGeeks.

Reason: Spammed Advertisements
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please dont spam.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...679#post200679

we dont need that here. if you have any questions or feel you did nothing wrong, then dont hesitate to contact me or another moderator. have a good day.
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This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

All the best,
PPCGeeks

This is too funny!! Now I recieved an infraction point for spam advertisement today after voicing my opinion . As I recall it this is how it started out with ole dude who started the boycott ppcgeeks petition. I guess I am next on the chopping block. I think I can strongly defend me arguement at this point.

For one I spoke to Wideawake before Christmas about developing a Noob site to help assist with the redundant questions that were being asked in the forum. I also created a forum for them over there to discuss issues. Noobs own place. Wide saw the site Pibe saw the site no points for the aledged spam ads. Now today some petty Mod who didnt like what I posted decides to check me out and decides to give me points for a website that has been up for months now. Now thats personal. So I'll be direct. Pibe and Patmannyc do a hell of a job moderating the rooms, but it's that childish and petty 2% that this very thread, Thread in question, and others that gives merit to the guys original arguement as well as my own. I think I rest my case. Drops mike walks off the stage.......

As I said above, and on the PM I sent you. Noone is out to get you, although the system limits us with the option of Spam Advertisement, the content of the post linked on the infraction was the reason for it.

You are more than welcomed to have a link to your site (as long as it is within the rules) in your signature.

Originally Posted by wldthng842

The biggest problem is that us users were attacked for voicing our opinions about the mods. That is the reason that this thread has not died. If the mods would have taken our opinions with a grain of salt then this thread would have died where it belongs. I think this is especially evident that the most prominent mod on the forum (Pibe3 simply quit posting. I'm sure he read everything as he usually reads everything, but he read the comments, understands them, and moves on. It is the mods that felt the need to defend themselves that kept us explaining our thoughts. I think this has reached and pointless end and should be closed. I'm sorry you didn't like our comments, but they are what they are, comments. Take them or leave them.

I'm staying out of the spam infraction but that does sound pointless if true. I would suggest the admin looking into it to make sure the mods did as they should have. Giving an infraction for a post months old is just dumb.

Sorry, can't be online ALL the time, I just had to drive 30 miles to get home, it doesn't mean I am not answering to other users' comments/concerns

I don't feel anyone got attacked for voicing their opinions. With all due respect, this thread was not even about that. It was about another thread, on another site, about our site.

Evetything was fine until the reasoning behind why that user left/was banned was questioned. And this was questioned without having all the facts, it is not that we feel the need to defend ourselves. We do so for different reasons, one is because we do not want our users to think we are ignoring them. Two, it is because it's not fair for moderators to be attacked or called out on their decisions when the person questioning them doesn't even have all the facts.

Let's be sincere, do you think that if someone is banned/warned and they create a thread/post about it that they are going to tell you other things that they may have done in the past? Infractions or PMs from moderators they may have received in the past? Of course not, they just want to start a movement against the staff.

All these other infractions/PMs from moderators are documented in our staff area, so that if another issue comes up about a user, we have reference to check if there have been issues in the past.

Originally Posted by wldthng842

That comment did detract from the thread that it was in and was pointless. I have to agree with the mods on that one. I have not heard of any infraction abuse/misuse from mods, more along the lines of closing threads. Which in the end is their own decision as they were given the power and we were not.

P.s. I only came back to hear pibey and because I got a PM from Goddbody

Thanks for recognizing that. We really don't get kicks out of issuing infractions, moderating takes time from us acquiring knowledge as well. Don't get me wrong, we do it because we want to... but we don't go wasting our time closing threads or issuing infraction with no merit.

After all, we are all here for the same reason, to learn and get the most out of our devices.

This has been talked about many, many times... if you feel a thread was closed with no grounds, then please PM the moderator that closed it, or another staff member if you prefer not to deal with that specific person.

I still don't see where the "abuse" is, lately all I have seen closed are threads that have gotten way out of hand, or threads that ask what is ALL OVER THE PLACE.

Like the friggin' PicMail/MMS issue that is driving me nuts!!! /rant

[Pibe38]

Originally Posted by Goddbody

okay I am officially mad now. How many times has a person put an acronym in a post to respond to something they felt was humerous but was off topic? Wldthng842 you comment in pms that it was wimpy..thats an understatement. i bet ole dude went to look something up to flag me for, but like you I am done with it now. I don't have time for childish games.

Nobody went looking for something to get you. That post where you received an infraction was posted TODAY. So please don't try to make excuses.

While many users use acronyms when something is funny, it is also accompanied by content. Posts that only say something like "lol", "ROFL", etc. are considered spam... because that is what they are. The post did not contribute anything to the discussion.

If you had been posting on an Off Topic thread, then maybe I could see your point.

At this point I know nothing will make you happy, if you really want to be mad because of an internet forum, then that is up to you.

I am glad you are done with this thread and don't have time for more "childish games", this means we, as a community, can move on as well.

I apologize if take all this the wrong way, but I feel I have backed up all my statements.

[wldthng842]

Wimpy or not, this is their site and they can do what they want with it. I have no further comments about it. Plus it's not like they banned you, it is an infraction. Not really a big deal, more of a warning.

Pibe, thanks for your comments. This would probably be a good closing point.

[Goddbody]

Originally Posted by wldthng842

Wimpy or not, this is their site and they can do what they want with it. I have no further comments about it. Plus it's not like they banned you, it is an infraction. Not really a big deal, more of a warning.

Pibe, thanks for your comments. This would probably be a good closing point.

you say one thing in pms then another in the room, but uh do you dawg? I am done with it and thanks for your comments.
Pibe what are you talking about looking for excuses? I get mad when i feel I am treated unfairly, yes I made the post today, and yes the Mod that flaged me was also in this thread today also, so I don't see your point here. Do you know how many times I have posted in a thread hereLastly, with simular acronyms? Lastly, like wldthang842 said its really not a big deal, but when I see what I saw posted in here today happen again I will respond, because the person the thread originated from had a valid arguement. I could careless about any rationalizations that may be offered. I think we have all exhausted our opinions on this and time to move on.

[InvincibleLiving]

Let it go people, we've been talking about this all day. dang even presidential candidates dont beat an issue to death like this!