Omnia vs. Iphone
 

I hate to say it, but this phone is not by any means an Iphone killer.
Yesterday, (after 3 weeks of playing around with it) I returned my Omnia and got an Iphone instead.

I can;t tell you how happy I am that I did. I am not writing this tread to gloat, but instead to voice that I really think that Samsung dropped the ball on this device.

Stylus - It's a phone after all, and I shouldnt need a little pen or tiny little fingers to use it. Having a pen tied to the phone is also pretty 'feminine' looking.

Apps and Games - I have been playing with my Iphone all day today (instead of trying to hack it to be more like the iphone). The caliber and selection of apps and games are incredible. Many are free or.99 cents. Many games are put together by lagitimate game studios which also make full use of the accelerometer and the iphone's bigger and more sensitive touch screen.

Even apps that work on both phones, work much better abd faster on the iphone - I downloaded the hacked Shazam from Cingular onto the Omnia.
I showed the working 'Shazam on the Omnia' to my brother in law who already has an iphone. I about crapped my pants when I saw how much better the app worked and looked on his iphone.

Google Maps - I know Verizon will be opening up the ports of the GPS so other apps can use it, but I promise, it wont work any where near as smoothly on the apple device.

Exchange - Since I am a business person, I have to say that the Exchange application on the Iphone is also much better. Its more intuirive and much more accessible (especially because stylus isnt required)

On screen Keyboard - Don't get me started. Samsung's keyboard is horrible.
The autocorrect feature (which I was unable to turn off) made me want to throw the thing through the window.

The Phone itself anf the phone lock- The phone lock on the Omnia is the worst thing ever. If your calling your answering machine from the Omnia, you need to take your phone away from your ear to enter numbers and you have to first unlock the phone, and Then select 'keypad'.
Caomparitively - The on-screen 'slider animation' to unlock the iphone is way cooler. When you take the phone away from your ear, the display intuitively lights up and prompts you if you would like to enter numbers or end the call.

Lastly, the Camera - Omnia's higher resolution camera and the camera application for that matter is better.(but the Omnia's flash was pretty useless)

IJust my 2 cents.

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I respect your choice and opinion, but I just wanted to point our a few things:

1- Omnia had never been advertized as an iphone 'killer' That is a moniker reviewers and marketing place on any new device that even vaguelly resembles the iphone.

2- The Omnia is actually very finger friendly. I am a past Treo user and never thought my pudgy digits could adapt to no physical keyboard, but not only have I adapted, the only time I ever see my stylus is when I need a reset and don't have a paper clip handy LOL!!! (I do agree fully with youe description of the stylus..I hate it as well)

3- The screen isn't as sensitive as some other devices out there, I have the iTouch, and have used the iphone, and yes the screen is a bit larger, and I will admit a lot better resolution, but the iphone is very frustrating to use, and usually needs more than one touch to get things going.

4- The iphone app-store is a good idea that WM is developing as well, but as far as the quantity, you have to keep in mind the g-sensor is still relatively new in the WM realm, and there are admittedly not as many apps out there, but in time, there will be just as many and anywhere from free to the obnoxiously priced (like we need more of them)!!!

5- There are admittedly apps that are unique to or just run better on the iphone, but there are also the ones that run better on WM, that will happen. As for a keyboard, Omnia's works well and you can turn auto-correct off. I use a RESCO because the buttons are a bit larger and actually work like iphone's!!

6- A lock? I agree the in-call one is irritating, so I will give you that one. For a device lock though...I use A_C's S2U2 and it may be based on iphones, but it actually does more and is more customizable than the iphone's.

Just like anything else in life, the iphone is for some, the Omnia for others, and the same for any other device out there, so good luck with your choice, and please feel free to stop in and compare or see what is going on in the WM world!!! :-)

Thanks for the input!!!

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Honestly I'm not sure why you even posted here (OP), since this forum is made up mostly of Windows Mobile power users who know about the iPhone but don't want it's limitations and/or want a device that is infinitely more customizable. Granted the iPhone and it's apps may be prettier and in some cases simpler, but other smartphones have had apps for quite some time. WinMo is certainly due for a makeover, but not only do most manufacturers put their own layers on top of the default software, a WinMo phone can use anything that's been created for it (no inconsistent App Store judges, and no needing to jailbreak the phone for simple yet missing functionality, only to have it reversed in the next update, or become bricked). And the whole iPhone killer thing...it's from the media. They all compare any full touchscreen device to the iPhone just because Apple is a media darling and almost always look good to them. I personally don't care about needing to feel superior to anyone, I just want a device that fits my needs. This forum exists for a reason - it's a place where owners of many different devices can share apps, tweaks and other knowledge to make their devices better. Your iPhone may be pretty, but doesn't have the same level of customization - and you can't replace the battery when it stops losing a charge, you just buy the next iPhone with one or two features more that the last one was missing.

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Have fun with ur "toy" thats what the Iphone really is and gang of gimmicks grouped together with nice colors and advertising to draw in people who are too lazy to figure things out...

The Omnia is FAR more customizable then the Iphone, I don't know why you posted here but I might as well let you know we don't really care that you went from an adults phone to a kids toy... so have fun playing ur games...

heres a link where there may be people that care that you went to the Iphone...

http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/

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Well said.....

I personally have never used an iphone (except about 30 seconds at Best Buy). I will concede that the screen was very sensitive and responsive, but I didn't like the 'feel' of it. It felt... ... ... too 'basic'.

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I could list the iPhone's shortcomings vs. Omnia, but what is the point?

Different strokes for different folks. The OP is just trolling.

Enjoy ATT's network shortcomings. What good is a phone if you can't use it as such?

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First to answer the question as to why I posted in this forum. I like many of you, resisted the notion of getting an apple device , really just because I decided in my own mind that I didn't want to "jump on the bandwagon" with everyone else.

I thought I would share my thoughts with everyone, now that I finally conceded that if you can't beat them, join them (and the fact that I'm happy i did).

Regarding 'customization' , yes Winmo seems more customizeable, but you really shouldn't have to spend all day "Customizing" the phone and trying to make it more finger friendly.

The battery is a good point, but I'll cross that bridge probably next year.

Regarding AT&T - I thought the same thing about the network shortcomings, but I live in Atlanta and frequently travel the east coast on business.
In Atlanta since I've had the phone (4 days now) , I haven't had a single dropped call yet. That being said, we'll see how well the network works as I travel.

Regarding the phone itself. The phone keypad makes the iphone much easier and more intuitive. I asked my wife to pick up the Iphone and make a phonecall. She did it on the first go. This was not tha case with the Omnia. During the same exercise on the omnia she needed to hit (#) and the in-call lock and little tiny 'keypad' in the bottom menu definately perplexed and frustrated her (to which she replied, "why does this thing have to be so complicated?"
Lastly, I would like to add that the Omnia's voicemail and missed call notification is also very poor. On the Omnia, I frequently missed that I had pending voicemails. Huge design flaw.
This is why I ask the same question back to you "What good is a phone if you can't use it as such?"

Again , I am not trying to aggravate anyone, but simply voice an opinion which I thought others may find interesting. This is after all , a 'forum'.

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Well said nitrous

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doseman....I understand your intentions with posting, and I see what you mean about the differnces in the two devices. That being said, I can also understand a lot of the frustrated sounding replies in here!! A lot of people are tired of all the comparisons made between the iphone and [insert almost any new WN device at the time here]. As I mentioned in ,y first post, the iphone and WM devices are very different, and I really think that about 90% of the comparisons shouldn't even be made, basically we are comparing apples to oranges (I knew I could get that analogy in there LOL)!!!

As far as your concerns witht he Omnia:

1- With making a phone call, all you do is press the left button (normally green) and the dial-pad pops up and you just dial and hit send, I really don't get whay people say it is complicated (not a did at you at all, I have seen others mention it as well) admittedly, maybe I am missing something!!

2- Battery life is an issue with almost all apple products...I would hope eventually they will allow easy access/change of batteries in not only the iphone, but all the ipod versions as well!!

3-missed calls and VM....I have never had an issue there either! I use S2U2 and in the past Phone Alarm and either one gives constant reminders (if anything...too much hence me not using Phone Alarm on the Omnia)!!

4- The customization is half the fun (OK maybe more LOL) of a WM device...a lot of us live for the constant changing, tweaking, showing off new looks/capabilities!!!!

I hope you continue to be happy with your iphone!! :-)

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Since this is a discussion, regarding the point - "a WinMo phone can use anything that's been created for it" - What about google maps? Not working (yet) on the Omnia.
A few of the games I tried were simply not compatible 'control-wise' with the Omnia (ie. 3D Super-G Stunt).

Honestly, I found the selection of quality apps for the winmo pretty limited considering how long the OS has been available. Having no keyboard, makes this list of working apps even more restrictive on the Omnia.

Also, I havent played around with Jailbreaking at all, but it appears (from reading) that Iphones don't traditionally become bricked as you can easily restore them to factory defaults if you encounter issues.

I understand that 'iphone killer' is a media moniker, but I think the phrasing stems from a phone's ability to capture market share. I don;t think this phone will do it.
I think the Storm will sell more units (better marketing and just because it's a blackberry)

Please see my comments in post above regaridng basic usability and cutomization.(i.e The keyboard, the phone keypad & the in-phone lock.)

Also, to adress syrguy1968's (and other's) comments. - I do believe the comparison is vaild and I do not belive this is an apples to oranges comparison at all. They are both smartphone's/pocket 'computers' with multimedia capabilities. Am I missing something?

I understand the 'green button shorcut' to dial out, but again I simply was expressing what happened when I used my Wife as a litmus test.

Again, I am simpky sharing my frustration(s) after using the Omnia for 3 weeks. I am not bashing the device, but I do believe there is room for vast imporvement of the default options offered. As it is, many have spoken of purchasing 3rd party apps to make up for many of the phone's shortcomings (Resco Keyboard or S2U2 for alerting)
If other's are considering buying the Omnia, I just thought that my comments may be helpful.

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dude your battery last two hours!
TWO HOURS!
your stuck with whatever apple gives you AND you have to pay for it.
i mean...if that what you really wanna do...

my sammy o is perfect!
im actually mad i dont have anything else to customize.
its perfect...once i have gps that will bring it back to life.
the iphone is toooo restricting..
too..bland!
im tired of seeing that same screen.
BORING!

check out my baby! :)

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment...1&d=1230918360

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment...1&d=1230918344

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment...1&d=1230918358

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Both phones target different audiences. That said, every complaint you have given so far can be addressed. In regards to the screen locking on dialing...unless you are dialing 1 digit every few seconds, it doesn't become an issue until you are using a system that requires more input or an extension to be dialed. In those cases, you can press one extra key (just one) and continue on your way, or disable it altogether in the registry. WinMo devices are not for the technically inept, imo. I'd daresay that WinMo isn't really game friendly, either. My phone isn't a toy, though. If I want a gaming system, I will get a PSP or DS, and both of those beat the crap out of the iPhone for gaming.

The issue with google maps is not within Samsung, Verizon, or Microsoft's control.

:violent2:

I tell you what drives me nuts mostly about the iPhone, is the need to hack it, just to be able to install other applications besides what Daddy, I mean Steve Jobs, allows you to.

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I have a question. Can the iPhone tether to a computer via wifi?

My Omnia can. How many different browsers can the iPhone use? What about shells? Different dialers? What about the ability to create and edit Office documents in OOXML format? How is the landscape keyboard? MicroSD support? Camera flash? Can you overclock it? Can you customize the ROM and roll your own version?

I truly don't know, so if you could address these questions, that would be great.

I dont think anyone can deny that Apple has one hell of a device in the iPhone, but it does have its shortcomings, like anything else. Would I say the Omnia is better? No. Would I say the Omnia can do more? Depends on what you use it for. As I said, different strokes...

I don't even think the Omnia was touted as an iPhone killer other than by reviewers? It seems like every touchscreen phone has to be an iPhone killer or clone. The iPhone was not even the first touchscreen only phone.

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[quote=doseman;613355]First to answer the question as to why I posted in this forum. I like many of you, resisted the notion of getting an apple device , really just because I decided in my own mind that I didn't want to "jump on the bandwagon" with everyone else.

I thought I would share my thoughts with everyone, now that I finally conceded that if you can't beat them, join them (and the fact that I'm happy i did).

Regarding 'customization' , yes Winmo seems more customizeable, but you really shouldn't have to spend all day "Customizing" the phone and trying to make it more finger friendly.

The battery is a good point, but I'll cross that bridge probably next year.

Regarding AT&T - I thought the same thing about the network shortcomings, but I live in Atlanta and frequently travel the east coast on business.
In Atlanta since I've had the phone (4 days now) , I haven't had a single dropped call yet. That being said, we'll see how well the network works as I travel.

Regarding the phone itself. The phone keypad makes the iphone much easier and more intuitive. I asked my wife to pick up the Iphone and make a phonecall. She did it on the first go. This was not tha case with the Omnia. During the same exercise on the omnia she needed to hit (#) and the in-call lock and little tiny 'keypad' in the bottom menu definately perplexed and frustrated her (to which she replied, "why does this thing have to be so complicated?"
Lastly, I would like to add that the Omnia's voicemail and missed call notification is also very poor. On the Omnia, I frequently missed that I had pending voicemails. Huge design flaw.
This is why I ask the same question back to you "What good is a phone if you can't use it as such?"

Again , I am not trying to aggravate anyone, but simply voice an opinion which I thought others may find interesting. This is after all , a 'forum'.[/quote

sorry im way off, im a driver and got an itouch to kill time, you know play games and what not, but when it came down to get a phone touch pro all the way

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Regarding the comment "If I want a gaming system, I will get a PSP or DS, and both of those beat the crap out of the iPhone for gaming."
I invite you to read this which just so happens to be an article which pretty much clinched my decision to buy the iphone http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/goodbye-sony-psp/1276225
When waiting for an airplane, I also dont want to be carrying around a nintendo DS or PSP. I'm a dork, but I'm also a busioness proferssional and I draw the line at carrying around a portable gaming system on top of my phone, laptop, and mp3 player. It is a double standard I know, but I also feel much more comfortable/adult sitting in an airport using my phone to play such games. (rather than a PSP or DS)
Besides the phone itself, I should add again that the Microsoft Echange application also works much better (and is more finger friendly) on the iphone.

Just clarify - To unlock the Omni'as in-call lock (for number entry)- 2 buttons need to be pressed. The unlock buttoin and THEN the 'keypad' menu bar needs to be selected. Very annoying when checking voicemail (to have to do this every time).

Having to disable the lock in the Omnia's registry along with all the other issues I've mentioned (which 'can be addressed') gets tiring.
Again, I though my comments would be helpful to those considering the Omnia. - It appears you have to change every default (The Alarm, The keyboard, the lock, the widgets, etc) on the phone to get it to be usable.

If customizing a phone is what your into, than maybe the Omnia is a perfect fit for you.
However It seems that if USING the phone is more of a priority to you, that the Iphone may be a better fit.

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exactly what we are saying! :)



we sadly do not agree, att network sucks!
plus...POOR battery life!
ugh!
on average im getting 2 days battery.
idk...my gphone and iphone coworkers are too jealous of my phone for me to be interested in theres.

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Once again, different strokes. What you consider usable, is not what another considers to be the same.


The Omnia works fine out of the box for many, but certainly not everyone. As for Exchange support, I think that there are some fairly large disagreements there. Without Mobile Me, you have no Exchange support. In fact, when Mobile Me first came out and for a while, it was a joke. I am sure it is better now.

My wife deplores touchscreen phones. In her opinion, if you want real usability, get yourself a smart phone that is non-touch. Everyone has different needs, abilities, and desires. There is no blanket statement for what is best, and what is most usable. As for games...once again, different strokes. I think people playing games on any device in public looks unprofessional, and silly, so meh.

Back to what I originally said, what are you trying to accomplish here? You no longer use an Omnia, but an iPhone. Plenty of iPhone forums out there, why choose this one to debate? Is there a point to the debate? You have already made up your mind. Are you simply trying to divert people from getting or using an Omnia? I really don't understand. I came from an LG Dare, and the Omnia smacks it around. But I have not once gone to an LG Dare forum to express my feelings or gloat about it. :scratch:

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And this is also posted in the wrong forum as I'll move it to Phone Comparison.

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I just wanted to touch on this for a second. This is a lot like Windows, vs. OS X, vs. Gnu/Linux.

All can be used to get the job done. What people are "into" generally decides what people will choose. MANY choose Gnu/Linux not because its user friendly, or usable out of the box, but because they can customize and tinker and make it what they want. Others choose OS X because it is very attractive and user friendly. Then there are those that choose Windows because it offers a compromise of both, and there is a lot of software support. I think that is very similar to the discussion here.

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Doseman
I've been reading your posts and for one I still don't understand ur reasons for posting ur negative opinions about a phone you no longer have...in a forum you no longer need to visit...
I am by no means a hater, I like the Iphone, but I don't like its lack of MMS, tethering, landscape keyboard, Flash with the camera, upgradeable memory uo to 24gigs with the Omnia that's pretty close to a 32 gig Iphone...
its just not a "customizable" phone...it is what it is ever going to be right out of the box...nothing more...

Not so with the Omnia or other "Real" Pocket Pc's, I had an XV 6800(loved it) and it could do anything the I phone could do...with the exception of things that needed an accelerometer...when I switched to the Omnia I didn't go to the Titan Forum and tell everyone that I moved to a better phone and so on...

You bought the Omnia because the truth is you ALWAYS wanted an Iphone, you read somewhere it is an "Iphone killer", so u ran to go get it, for someone that's says you're a business man, that's not a good way to do business (just a joke, relax) anyway so with your heart set on an Iphone you grab the Omnia, and without truly giving the Omnia a chance (3 weeks is nothing) you run for what u wanted the whole time...that's fine, but for the rest of us willing to be patient and wait for the software to be tested and developed for the Omnia, we would much rather you just say..."thank you to those who tried to help me with my Omnia but I decided to get an Iphone" or say nothing at all and move on...don't come here and use gaming and the stylus and your arguments for why not to get the Omnia.
Real Pocket Pc users all know the WinMo has some screens that from time to time require a stylus, the Omnia is not for you plain and simple...WinMo is too complex for you...the challenge and satisfaction of customizing ur PPC is not a priority to you...you enjoy being just like everyone else, I just feel the Iphone is a kids toy...used for games, music, and movies...it is cool but I'm not a kid anymore.

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Of course the GPS is not unlocked yet - but Verizon will be setting it free "in the 1st half of 2009." ...that is if you want to talk about individual shortcomings. And perhaps saying EVERYTHING will work exactly the way it should isn't quite accurate, but the point is you don't have to go through the App Store (convenient as it may be) to download apps specifically certified by Apple.
Everyone knows that WinMo is currently a creaky, ugly old platform that simply has loads of band-aids to pretty it up, and they don't always work together as they should. And you're right, most people don't want to have to deal with these shortcomings and/or having to purchase other programs to get the devices to work properly. But this forum is here for that reason, and most of the users here probably found the site because they were willing to tweak a little bit to get a great device. Furthermore, the option is still there to improve the software wherever possible with these 3rd party addons; no jailbreaking is required that could mess something up or brick the phone with the next update. (Landscape texting keyboard, anyone?) So yes, your iPhone does have some advantages over the Omnia, but anyone reading these forums probably knows about them already (as well as the iPhone's disadvantages) and they're trying to make their experience better. And of course, not having to hear about all of the comparisons to it is also nice.

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iPhone: http://ebayinsiderblog.com/wp-conten...all-popper.jpg





win mobile: http://www.germes-online.com/direct/...n_Home_Gym.jpg

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I respect your opinion doseman, and as many have said, the iPhone and WinMo phones are very different beasts.

The iPhone is not a smart phone. Let's face it, it will never be a smartphone. The iPhone is a phone and multimedia device. The reason I would buy the iPhone is for the apps, music, and web browsing. If I were wanting something that not only offers multimedia support and applications, I would go with a WinMo Smartphone. The abilities and applications available with WinMo phones are vast. Browsing through the applications I have on my phone now, I have Divx, FM radio, Google maps, Pandora, opera mobile, mobile im, Podcasts, Remote desktop, video editer, and Microsoft Office (view and edit) among many others.

The possibilities of a smartphone are really amazing and I love being able to find really any application for my phone and download it easily. I have edited the registry for wider scroll bars and other aspects to make WinMo more touch friendly so that I could remove my stylus. I find myself using the optical mouse alot more in replacement of the stylus and I am fine with it.

So really all of what I am saying is that you can't compare these phones. They have different strengths and they are for different users. I like the iPhone, but for me, WinMo is a better match for me. I want the ability to connect to my desktop wireless, make my phone an access point, or edit word documents.

I'm glad you found the right phone for you.

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Wow be easy here guys. If he loves the iPhone and hates WM let him. I love my TPro.

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Omnia and WinMo are for folks who like to customize and mod their phones to make them look better, work better, and do much more than they did out-of-the box. Plus, the Winmo especially in the Omnia version is much more versatile than the iPhone. I tried an iPhone for about a week and did not like it. Took it back. Besides being a poor phone (or maybe it's ATT network) it simply did not have the PDA functions I was looking for. No sync of Outlook tasks for example. You cannot charge an extra battery and swap out when needed. No cut and paste. You can only put apps on it that the Arrogant Mr. Jobs says you can put on it. It is a Toy, not a serious business phone. The Omnia brings together both the serious business phone, and the fun and play factor. For example, in addition to all the music and FM radio enjoyment, Divx videos, I have read you can mod it to play many Nintendo games. For versatility, ease of use, customization of user experience the Omnia at present rules the roost.

Let the iPhools of the world go merrily on their way, but I won't be among them.

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actually the iphone IS considered a smartphone...

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It runs the same OS as the iTouch: how can it be a smartphone? The Instinct is as much a smartphone. What is considered a smartphone will likely run WinMo, PalmOS, or Blackberry operating systems.

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U sound silly, any device that can sync directly with exchange servers or other types of emails, and has PIM functionality, i.e. robust calendar/contacts/note taking/record keeping functionality, is considered a "smart device" by public standards. Microsoft has its own standards on what whats considered a smart phone and whats not.

You saying a instint as as much as a smartphone as an iphone is also not correct. The instinct was designed with one type of user in mind, one who wants an easy to use entertainment device. The iphone was aimed at business users, as well as people who want mobile entertainment.

Why do u think 2.0 brought so many upgrades to the iphone to help corporate users? Im not defending the iphone, its just that were WM users here, aand tend to bash other devices just becuase its not what we use

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This thread is so silly. It makes my laugh.

If you like the iphone...bully for you. But you're posting on a message board targeted to WM operating users. And the reason most of the people in THIS forum like WM...is for everything that it offers which iphone does not.

If you want a phone that you can play with right out of the box...then the iphone is for you. IMO, the iphone is like a "personal gaming/multimedia system" that you can use to make a phone call. You can add games to it and listen to your music...but you can't customize it to be what you truly want it to be. The device itself has no potential. What you take out of the box is all you are ever going to have. Just like an xbox...you can buy/get all the games you want...but you're never going to be able to add actual functionality to your xbox to make it something else.

My Omnia (and previously owned xv6700) is much like my laptop. I can add software. I can change registry specifications. I can add memory. I can completely change the way it looks. It has Mobile Office on there...I can do my homework/business on my phone! I can connect to wi-fi and/or use it as a modem. I can put my own videos on there to watch, I can listen to FM radio, and I can even hook it up to my tv and show a slideshow of my photos. I can also remote desktop to my laptop.

I refuse to own an ipod. I refuse to own an imac. I refuse to own an iphone. Why? Because I am not a sheep that lives in a fence. I like to explore my limits and customize my world. When I was using itunes back in the day...I absolutely hated it and when I went to remove it from my computer...it completely screwed it up. I don't need to purchase any special software in order to use my omnia. I am not limited to use only their endorsed products. And I don't feel like I have a media***** being shoved down my throat. I don't buy hype.

I also have great battery life and a great network. I live in smalltown kansas...if I had an iphone I wouldn't even be able to use it in the town that I live. I'd have to travel about 20 miles north just to make a damn phone call. AT&T has terrible coverage area here and lacking customer service.

So...like everyone else said...if you want a toy that you can play with right out of the box and be limited on what you can actually do with your phone...then the iphone was a good choice for you and we're glad that you're happy.

However...the rest of us are going to continue to be happy with our customizable smartphones.

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see...i am a hardcore WM FANBOY. Always have been, but you, my firiend, say this thread is comical. U sound just like an apple person, just opposite! Biased is the word im looking for. I just hate when people post things that arent entirely correct....

2.0/2.2 has brought so many updates/programs that it dont make sense. From a what it can do standpoint....the 2.0 update REALLY opened up what it can do. Check your facts bruh

again..I own a diamond and will always own a WM phone..but you clearly havent used an iphone or iphone 3g running 2.0 or later..

2.0 really opened up the things u can do with it. So its not just some close ended multimedia device anymore...do some research before u bash a platform...not just the iphone OS, ANY platform.
Again, I am not defending iphones...or WM, but you bashed an OS that you dont seem to have a clue about.

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If your phone would have been ready with Spb's software, winterface 1.16, coreplayer 1.3, Opera 9.5, Tomtom7/igo8/McGuider, Flash 3.1 and CF2.5 you would know why it's called the "Iphone killer"

And yes indeed, the iphoone has a better screen and is more slippery! :evil4:

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My Point is that the Iphone came ready to use right out of the box with most of these such tools AND the iphone does it MUCH better.
For example, the on-screen keyboard (which by the way (before anyone says it again)there is a landscape keyboard version available in the appstore for .99) that's 99 freaking cents! I can buy 20 apps from the appstore for the cost of 1 WM app. (that is if we assume that most people are even paying for thier WM apps vs downloading from .torrent sites)

The GPS for the Omnia isn't unlocked yet (if you live in the US and use Verizon) so good luck with TomTom .
Also, 'Winterface' appears to be a front end to make your Today screen 'look' sort of like an Iphone screen, but drawn in pencil.

After more time playing with the Iphone I realize how Amazing the device is.
What's more amazing though is the number of Applications available in the appstore for free or for .99 cents. NOT JUST GAMES, but business apps too. Exchange on my Iphone works much better than it did on my WM. (IMHO)

Do yourself a favor. before replying to this to tell me how 'customizeable' your WM phone is, why not visit the appstore online just to LOOK at the sheer volume and prices of quality applications being offered for Iphone (that's all I ask).

I said it once and I'll say it again - Having to use a Stylus is FEM. Having to 'hack' your WM device to make it finger-friendly is bush league.

Everyone keeps saying how compatible WM is, when I have first-hand witnessed ALL kinds of incompatibility issues with WM.
Conversely, when I connect my Iphone to download an APP, I can feel pretty confident that it will work.

Let me end on this note, since I switched from WM to the Iphone, I have NEVER been happier with an electronic device in my entire life. How is that for a statement?

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Can't be that happy, if you are still wasting your time trying to win people over from the Omnia to the iPhone.

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Actually Dr. Freud, I am even happier with the device now than when I started this thread.
Also, this is not a waste a time. Just google 'omnia vs. iphone'.
(This thread appears on page 2 of the google search) Someone in the market for a new phone like the omnia may easily happen upon this thread. which is the very reason I started it.

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I agree with Success when it comes to the bashing. I wish both sides would stop with the differences already...Have any of you also noticed of how SIMILAR both phones and the recent WM phones are at all? Seriously im waiting for someone to say Blackberry to spiral this Thread out of control.

I really agree with Syrguy the most when it comes down to it. Apples and Oranges. There both fruit. Omnia and Iphone They are both capable Smartphones (yes the I phone is a smart phone and for those bashing the gaming. Both phone have gaming capablities (as does the TP which is my phone) As for cost. That really shouldnt matter much considering the fluxing prices of ALL products when it comes to software thats free to software that cost a second leg. I mean might aswell throw Blackberry and Palm into the mix ...they are also considered smartphones with the same features as WM and Iphone yet the implement it in different fashions

Both phones can do both Business and Multimedia functions so why say the Iphone is for children or that WM is for business. I play games around my work all the time on break on my TP (mostly SNES games) and I connect to an exchange server for work aswell. My brother has the same setup with his Iphone 3g. He plays games on break and connects to the exchange at work....calls us children...call us business men...call us ....human?

As its already been said certain phones are for certain users. Its not even ABOUT fuctionality anymore its about how a person wants to implement these features. I mean Ill go toe to toe when it comes to features with TP, The omnia, Iphone, Palm Pre (next gen), Blackberry Curve (new curve), and the list can go on and on...just go to a store play with a phone and use the one you want already.

Now I would like to sway trying to persuade people to buy one phone over another is just dumb and yes I mean DUMB. Leave that to the advertisers for the carriers. Let people choose for themselves. They have ways to trying these devices out...try them first...I personally cant stand ANY virtual keyboard but that due to my fat fingers. others rather have a skinny phone then to have the bulk. Thats THEIR choice.. oh and speaking of carriers....thats like a never ending spiral. People hate Verizon, People Hate Sprint, People Hate AT&T, People also LOVE Verizon, Love Sprint, Lover At&t...that will never die as its all based on experience and area coverage of the home. stop throwing it out there.

Really EVERYONE that reads this take a break and like success states read your facts and try the phones. Looks at the similarities aswell as the differences. Some would say one is better than the other and visa versa. Its ALL on opinion.

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great post man...really good post. I have to whole heartedly agree. I have to say i went an bought an iphone3g the other day and i have to say i am BLOWN AWAY by this thing. The app store is nuts. I have so many QUALITY apps that were free it makes no sense
. B4 i wasnt impressed with iphones at first but the app store and exchange support really opened this thing up exponentially. Dont get me wrong i love wm but i havent really used my diamond for days. Ive played with an omnia and i think its a sweet device. But this thing makes it hard to go back to wm(and ive been using it for years)...and with web os on the horizon. Wm is really going to have to do some ground breaking for me to come back all the way. Needless to say my beloved diamond is for sale now. The omnia on paper is still a better device but go use both...and im 75% sure i know where your money is going. Lol and the worst part is i work at sprint...with an iphone as my 2nd phone!! Lmao.

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Try Blazingwolfs 6.5 v1.4 MS3 rom on the Omnia and then tell me if you still like the iPhone.

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I think the reason he choose this fourm to debate is because the title of the thread is OMNIA VS. IPHONE. It makes sense to me to talk about these diffrences here.

Adrynaline, if i wanted to be a **** i could ask you a similar question and ask "if you have already made up your mind that the omnia is better, why are you wasting your time and reading this tread????" I personally am reading this thread out of personal intrest... to see what other peoples opinons are on the pros and cons of each. I did not come here to have people encourage me that i made the right decision by buying the omnia... just looking for real info. If you need support please go to a support goup.

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Originally Posted by Adrynalyne (Post 613717) I have a question. Can the iPhone tether to a computer via wifi?

I have the omnia, and my girlfriend has the latest iphone (3gs). I have used both alot, and am familiar with the functionality and use ability of both devices. As stated several times on this thread they are similar, but very different. There is no better device, just personal opinions as to which is better.

I am an IT professional so my personal preference is the omnia, because i like to play with things and tweak them, and it has some capabilities i enjoy which the iphone lacks (ability to save any document, download anything, put anything on the device even if it does not recognize the file, customize things, edit registry, no need for itunes, transfer via bluetooth, wireless tethering etc).

That being said, the iphone has several advantages over windows mobile. For one the user interface is much more intuitive and easier to use (im talking beyond comparison), iphone does not need to be tweaked for anything and seems to run fast and smooth all the time (never gone more than 2 days on WM without opening task manager at an inconvenient time), the apps from the app store always run flawlessly and the touch screen on the iphone is way better (captive... resistive is an old technology that will soon be obsolete). Graphics rendering is also faster and better

To sum things up, when im going to work, or want to tweak things i reach for the omnia... when i am at home, want to relax or want to surf the internet, i find myself almost always reaching for the iphone. Just because the omnia does everything the iphone does, does not mean it does everything well. The iphone is simply more pleasurable to use.

As for your question on how many browsers the iphone can run, i have never had to look... safari is easily the best mobile browser i have used with a touch screen interface, hands down.

As for your other questions you should know the answers by now, but i will answer them for you. Without jailbreaking the iphone, no over clocking, no shells, no sd support, camera is 3.2mp and the 5.0 on the omnia is better (but neither will replace a real digital camera), cant customize rom, you can however open doc, xls, ppt, pdf and many other documents.

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Well you can compare iphone with the any of the phone but no one can reach at the level of iphone. Apple have made world's best mobile with the great facilities and the features, thats why iphone is so famous in the mobile market in all over the world.