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Success100 11-20-2008 05:22 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bullet2300 (Post 532222)
Geez Jethro Static... someone must have hit a nerve with you :D

I am curious what you have to say about the list. Not because I want to argue or something, but you sound like a very proud multi device user. I would appreciate a list too!

nah bruh!!! lol thats jethro in the flesh, he's ruthless round here. get used to it!
the man speaks wisdom, check out that thanks count!

chronster 11-20-2008 05:22 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
The info about how the iphone became unstable makes sense to me. Now I understand apple's clenching on the apps that can run on this phone.

If this phone is meant for your average user and ease of use, then I can totally see why Apple would want to avoid anything that could lock the phone up. The problem is, some of the coolest apps are the ones that lock it up :/

jethro_static 11-20-2008 05:23 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chronster (Post 532228)
LMFAO

I had to give thanks because this made me laugh.

Dude, reading your posts is like banging my head against the wall. Do you see how everyone else conveys their message? You remind me of that Sacha Cohen character Ali G LOL

HAHAHA! He's borat too.

jethro_static 11-20-2008 05:24 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Success100 (Post 532238)
nah bruh!!! lol thats jethro in the flesh, he's ruthless round here. get used to it!
the man speaks wisdom, check out that thanks count!

Somebody figured me out! I am impressed for real. I tell U peeps. Success is oneof the persons I see here when I'm new. This dude is no BS. he's post are absolutely areality. It's lke ur talking to him face to face If U have conversation with him.

Success100 11-20-2008 05:26 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 532252)
Somebody figured me out! I am impressed for real.

yeah u know me, im like the underBOSS of the forums lol. i project sarcasm on dumb posts and knowledge everywhere else lol

orlandojumpoff 11-20-2008 05:27 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagual (Post 532206)
Not to take this thread too far off course, but this doesn't worry me. Everyone I know who used to be with a now-nonexistent carrier with a special plan got their plan grandfathered in to whoever bought them out. Not that Sprint are a sure thing for getting bought out anyway. No AT&T for this boy.

it dropped sharply cause of an approved deal with clearwire.. both are trying to get a jump on att so well see how that goes. but if they crumble im assuming theyll be bought out or merged with another and we'll all be alright. just like cingular turned into at&t a while back.

jimd144 11-20-2008 05:30 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
CDMA would have to be Verizon, and I doubt they will honor $20 a month contracts. No need for them to do so. The carriers might see that liquidation of Sprint is better than buying and holding ridiculous contracts.

orlandojumpoff 11-20-2008 05:32 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
only if they wanna see sprints customers go to at&t lol
i hope nothing happens though i want to keep my plan

edit: what happened to the op, i want to hear what he thinks about everyones input on the phones

jethro_static 11-20-2008 05:36 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
he is rushing to apple store. LMAO! JK guys

chronster 11-20-2008 05:37 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
if i ever get an iphone, it'll be through best buy because they offer the 15 dollar per month replacement plan...

jethro_static 11-20-2008 05:43 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chronster (Post 532286)
if i ever get an iphone, it'll be through best buy because they offer the 15 dollar per month replacement plan...

Apple offers protection plan too. They will replace it free. I think U only pay 69 bucks. I'm not sure because my Iphone has no service. I use my friends sim card if I need to make a call LOL. I have Sprint as my primary carrier. Sprint's plans are amazing. Maybe that is the reason why they are going bunkrupt. LOL

bullet2300 11-20-2008 05:44 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
^^

Na... it's Nextel's fault. Sprint was awesome until they picked up Nextel, then their money went down the crapper.

/me raises glass to Sprint - IMO Best service and plans and phones :)

jethro_static 11-20-2008 05:46 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
IDK why sprint pickup a dying company like nextel. nextel drag sprint with them.

jimd144 11-20-2008 05:53 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
There is also a referral fee where existing ATT customer and referral both get $25 gift card. It looks like WalMart and Sam's Club will have them after Xmas, and Costco will probably not be far behind. That means discounted phones.

jimd144 11-20-2008 05:55 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 532306)
Apple offers protection plan too. They will replace it free. I think U only pay 69 bucks. I'm not sure because my Iphone has no service. I use my friends sim card if I need to make a call LOL. I have Sprint as my primary carrier. Sprint's plans are amazing. Maybe that is the reason why they are going bunkrupt. LOL

The $69 Apple Care is only for warranty on the phone for second year. Lose it, break it, brick it, have it stolen....Too bad for you ](*,)

PdaOd 11-20-2008 06:02 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
For what it's worth one can tether a ipod touch to a wm phone. A bit expensive and not a single device, but you can get the best of both worlds.

sikclown 11-20-2008 06:19 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Anyone else think Jethro and Success should get a room? haha So kidding guys

Existentialism 11-20-2008 06:22 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 532213)
What r U here in this thread anyways? U tryin to sound like a mod telling me what should I do. U have not make a useful post yet. Make a sensible comment first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 532198)
Ok. Dude, 1st I think ur just looking for an arguement. 2nd, I claimed to have both phone as a best option. I said I have both. I did not say everyone should have both too. read my very first post on this thread. Is giving a list mandatory? Why don't U give an unbiased list to him.

U wanna help the OP? post something useful to him and stop calling me out.


I don't have the insight to help him, but you claim to. I was trying to help by getting you to provide insight on the level you claim to have. But they're right, it's like trying to explain it to someone who misinterpret my every intention and statement. Like borat.



Quote:

Originally Posted by rastataoist (Post 532161)
I figured I'd add my 2 cents into this discussion, as it seems like everyone is so hardcore for their specific device.

I had the original iphone (jailbroken) and an iphone 3g (didn't bother to jailbreak it for a bunch of reasons) and then decided to move over to a touch pro for a number of reasons.

I would say the biggest are the hardware keyboard, copy/paste, multimedia messaging, simple custom ringtone use, flexibility right out of the box.

And for those of you who say the iphone can do anything that the touch pro (or any windows mobile device) can do, I'd say you're probably right in assuming that, but you also don't mention the loss of stability once you start adding unsupported apps through Installer/Cydia. My iphone would crash multiple times a day once I finally got all the apps I wanted (needed?) on it, and occasionally even holding down the home/power keys wouldn't work to reset the phone. There're occasions where I've had to wait for the battery to go dead in order to fix problems with any app that I'd installed.

I really like the iphone, I think it's a great device, but it definitely caters to a certain type of user (not me). And, to be honest, it took a giant crack in the screen and the thought of replacing the phone at the full unsubsidized price that made me start to consider what else is out there... but I'm glad I did.



EDIT : Ok, I'll add the pros of the iphone -

Integrates very well with mobileme (.mac) and mac os X
the touch screen is unrivaled
Very stable if you don't screw around with it too much
The interface is simple and intuitive




See, this is a hugely helpful post. This is what I was hoping you could do for the OP.

jethro_static 11-20-2008 06:41 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Existentialism (Post 532423)
I don't have the insight to help him, but you claim to. I was trying to help by getting you to provide insight on the level you claim to have. But they're right, it's like trying to explain it to someone who misinterpret my every intention and statement. Like borat.








See, this is a hugely helpful post. This is what I was hoping you could do for the OP.

I'm sorry if i did not do what ur hoping me to do. But understand that this is a forum and posts are coming from every directions. people that agrees and people that disagrees. If it did not come from me, Maybe from somebody else like him.

jethro_static 11-20-2008 06:43 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimd144 (Post 532342)
The $69 Apple Care is only for warranty on the phone for second year. Lose it, break it, brick it, have it stolen....Too bad for you ](*,)

Oh ook. i don't have it. LOL

speedy523 11-20-2008 06:43 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
well i just came from owning an iPhone since almost the beggining, and i got to say, its an amazing phone, but compared to a phone like a Touch Pro, it doesn't last. It has a great touch screen, and can end up being a great device, but out of the box, you have no customization what so ever, and to get an app you usually have to start shelling out cash, that is unless you jailbreak it to allow some of the functions that come out of the box with a phone like the Touch Pro. As for me, i jailbreaked since my day one with the phone and never lived without it. That is because, the only way to get anything remotely decent on the phone was by the jailbreak. And even after Apple released the AppStore, you can get almsot any app, and an even better version of it for free through the jailbreak. But even though you jailbreak it, after a while you'll start to notice that the phone starts to slow down, freeze up, and in a rare occasion completely crash. Most of the time, to bring the phone back to full speed, you restore it, this takes time no matter what, and if your like me, it somewhat longer since i unlock it (im on tmobile for iphone since theres no 3g in my area so att is pointless), have to spend time to do apps, custimize, etc.

Now as for a phone such as the Touch Pro, i must say it has a steeper learning curve. Don't be msitaken, im also a so called "iphone poweruser" since i've done just about everything with it including the full hardware unlock. But the Touch Pro, mostly WinMobil, seems to have a higher learning curve and more advanced for the options that you can do. im currently on my 3rd day with the Pro so im still learning, and personally i like the phone, but now and then i still miss using my iPhone because of just how visually beautiful the OS was. But i like having the extra feeling of safety on my Pro though, since i've had times before when my iPhone would just "die" while im outside, but now with the Touch Pro, i can just hard reset on the go and ill at least be able to use the phone. I also like having the option of just copying my files over like videos and just playing them without the hassle of converting and such.

So IMO, the Touch Pro is better if you like to have more freedom, as for the iPhone, even if you do jailbreak it, always expect to run into some problems down the road.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 531849)
Iphone SDK has policies. It's made like that to protect their business and the developer of that app. Let's face it. WM devices are so open most people get all the apps that they install for free(warez). If that thing keeps continues, The WM app business will die and eventually the OS itself which is already starting.

No warez on iPhone? haha thats a funny one. Back when the AppStore was released and long before, i was very active in the iPhone community, and let me assure you, on Day One of the AppStores release, it was cracked. Even to this day, Apps are being cracked, and nothing has been done to stop it. And frankly, its much easier in general than anything with WinMobile. For the iPhone, all you need to do is run a debugger and a couple other quick programs on the device with the App, and viola, you have a DRM Free App, which all you need to do is copy over and it's ready to use.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 531819)
I am an Iphone poweruser. Iphone has a hardcore 3d engine. it can perform 1080P full HD video. Same quality as Bluray disc. It can be a remote control for various devices including roomba.LOL. It can be a touchpad for PC's. It is customizable in a different level. WM customizes by immitating other devices. Iphone owners does not do that coz they think it's a downgrade for the Iphone. Tethering functions is coming soon. Pls seach Youtube for videos of their games tht will amaze you. Start searching with this keywords. iphone starwars then go to related videos for more.

Yes the iPhone can do 1080p, but in the real world, thats really doesnt help the device that much right now. The only possible storage configurations are 8gb and 16gb, and after some compresion and conversion, you *might* be able to fit one 1080p movie on the 8gb by taking up all the storage, so in the OPs case, i think this is an insignificant point.

jethro_static 11-20-2008 06:44 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sikclown (Post 532413)
Anyone else think Jethro and Success should get a room? haha So kidding guys

HAHAHAHA!!! He's a goodman thou.

jethro_static 11-20-2008 06:49 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by speedy523 (Post 532478)
well i just came from owning an iPhone since almost the beggining, and i got to say, its an amazing phone, but compared to a phone like a Touch Pro, it doesn't last. It has a great touch screen, and can end up being a great device, but out of the box, you have no customization what so ever, and to get an app you usually have to start shelling out cash, that is unless you jailbreak it to allow some of the functions that come out of the box with a phone like the Touch Pro. As for me, i jailbreaked since my day one with the phone and never lived without it. That is because, the only way to get anything remotely decent on the phone was by the jailbreak. And even after Apple released the AppStore, you can get almsot any app, and an even better version of it for free through the jailbreak. But even though you jailbreak it, after a while you'll start to notice that the phone starts to slow down, freeze up, and in a rare occasion completely crash. Most of the time, to bring the phone back to full speed, you restore it, this takes time no matter what, and if your like me, it somewhat longer since i unlock it (im on tmobile for iphone since theres no 3g in my area so att is pointless), have to spend time to do apps, custimize, etc.

Now as for a phone such as the Touch Pro, i must say it has a steeper learning curve. Don't be msitaken, im also a so called "iphone poweruser" since i've done just about everything with it including the full hardware unlock. But the Touch Pro, mostly WinMobil, seems to have a higher learning curve and more advanced for the options that you can do. im currently on my 3rd day with the Pro so im still learning, and personally i like the phone, but now and then i still miss using my iPhone because of just how visually beautiful the OS was. But i like having the extra feeling of safety on my Pro though, since i've had times before when my iPhone would just "die" while im outside, but now with the Touch Pro, i can just hard reset on the go and ill at least be able to use the phone. I also like having the option of just copying my files over like videos and just playing them without the hassle of converting and such.

So IMO, the Touch Pro is better if you like to have more freedom, as for the iPhone, even if you do jailbreak it, always expect to run into some problems down the road.



No warez on iPhone? haha thats a funny one. Back when the AppStore was released and long before, i was very active in the iPhone community, and let me assure you, on Day One of the AppStores release, it was cracked. Even to this day, Apps are being cracked, and nothing has been done to stop it. And frankly, its much easier in general than anything with WinMobile. For the iPhone, all you need to do is run a debugger and a couple other quick programs on the device with the App, and viola, you have a DRM Free App, which all you need to do is copy over and it's ready to use.



Yes the iPhone can do 1080p, but in the real world, thats really doesnt help the device that much right now. The only possible storage configurations are 8gb and 16gb, and after some compresion and conversion, you *might* be able to fit one 1080p movie on the 8gb by taking up all the storage, so in the OPs case, i think this is an insignificant point.

Did U see me put "iphone has no warez" U want me to give U a link of 1.4 gigs of iphone apps? the purpose of the post is to explain that being as free as wm devices has it's disadvantages too. On the iphone side, Atleast it's being minimized by the app store.

Existentialism 11-20-2008 06:52 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 532472)
I'm sorry if i did not do what ur hoping me to do. But understand that this is a forum and posts are coming from every directions. people that agrees and people that disagrees. If it did not come from me, Maybe from somebody else like him.


It was not meant as a demand, it was intended as a suggestion as to how you might better help. Since you have a unique viewpoint, I felt you had a lot more to add aside from just the iPhone side. But you're right, plenty of others came forward with their own posts, so the need was satisfied.

jethro_static 11-20-2008 06:57 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Existentialism (Post 532495)
It was not meant as a demand, it was intended as a suggestion as to how you might better help. Since you have a unique viewpoint, I felt you had a lot more to add aside from just the iPhone side. But you're right, plenty of others came forward with their own posts, so the need was satisfied.

That was my point. Look at my posts this way. The glass thats containing wm was filled already. I am just adding stuffs on iphones glass.

jeremy3721 11-20-2008 07:08 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
I bought an iphone and then ended up returning it and getting the TP. I really like the iphone and if they enhance the camera, increase storage to 32gb and add real navigation come January I'll be sold again.

I just can't quite justify the extra monthly charges when I can tether my Touch Pro, use Slingbox and Copilot Navigation for about half the price.

jethro_static 11-20-2008 07:12 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
I'll pass on the TP for now. I'm waiting for similar device like the Touch HD. then I'll have this in my hands. LOL Isn't it beautiful? I'm inlove with these 2. I'll have 3some with them. LMAO

http://www.pocketnow.com/html/portal...iew/iphone.jpg

mike171562 11-20-2008 07:32 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
What about when Android is ported over to WM phones, where will the Iphone be then??

ACHlLLES 11-20-2008 07:34 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eptd (Post 531672)
Stopped by the Apple store while I was at the mall yesterday and played around with the iPhone for a while. I know everyone here is an iPhone hater but I have to say I was very impressed. The touch screen much more responsive and internet pages are rendered a lot more quickly. And of course the screen is a lot more impressive (even with the lower resolution, can't beat size).

I know the plans are more expensive, can't customize as much, and blah blah blah. I'm wondering who has one or came from one has to say about the phone. I don't want to hear from people who have just played around with one or knows someone with one. I'm wondering what regrets I would have if I switched to the iPhone.

2 possible deal breakers for me would be Slingbox and Pushmail. I've seen a youtube video of the iphone slinging, but is this 'hack' readily available like custom ROMS are for the touch pros? And I'm guessing push mail is probably available but just wanted someone to confirm it.

What other regrets would I have?

I do have both, and I love em both.

I am able to watch tv on Iphone 3g via ORB, but can't change the channel as of right now. I did order a remote that should work so we'll see about that.

As far as slingbox on Touch PRO vs ORB on Iphone, slingbox quality is better in my case because; I have Slingbox PRO, which is connected via HD cable to my cable box while Wintv 1950 only offers composite/s-video connection.

I do like the fact that Iphone does offer bigger screen, and quality is quite impressive as long as I don't compare screen vs screen.

I do love em both.

Success100 11-20-2008 07:35 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 532533)
I'll pass on the TP for now. I'm waiting for similar device like the Touch HD. then I'll have this in my hands. LOL Isn't it beautiful? I'm inlove with these 2. I'll have 3some with them. LMAO

http://www.pocketnow.com/html/portal...iew/iphone.jpg

they say both the HD and sony experias resolution make the iphone look like crap

Noir 11-20-2008 07:36 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 531867)
HAHAHA. I was just gonna colect videos like this for people that do not know what iphone can do. Thanks I'll add this list on my collection.

sadly been there got all of that
the emulation sucked...period summerboard wow omg wummer and winterboard...made me quite bored
iphysics...that was nice granted but again
most of the applications are niche
I'm not a niche user, I am a user that needs things done yesterday and if something doesn't have it, then its gone
Iphone didn't have it. And you are stuck even after a jailbreak
so yes I know iphone pretty darn well...and jailbreaking nowadays makes absolutely no sense. At all...

mxl180 11-20-2008 07:36 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
BUT if you go with iPHONE you will have too much time on your hands... everything works so well. I mean you cant even fool around with regedit!

jethro_static 11-20-2008 07:41 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir (Post 532591)
sadly been there got all of that
the emulation sucked...period summerboard wow omg wummer and winterboard...made me quite bored
iphysics...that was nice granted but again
most of the applications are niche
I'm not a niche user, I am a user that needs things done yesterday and if something doesn't have it, then its gone
Iphone didn't have it. And you are stuck even after a jailbreak
so yes I know iphone pretty darn well...and jailbreaking nowadays makes absolutely no sense. At all...

Personally, I will take the emulator that sucked than nothing.

jethro_static 11-20-2008 07:48 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Success100 (Post 532587)
they say both the HD and sony experias resolution make the iphone look like crap

I wouldn't doubt it.But we have to understand, Iphone is 2 years old.Prolly xperia's display is so nice bcoz that huge res for a small screen will make it so crispy.But still thou, the bigger screen with big res. is great so HD is the shiznit.

Exil3d 11-20-2008 07:55 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Problem I see with the iphone is the size of it. It you somehow brick it... then you have rights to brag in how you cinderblocked it.

winmobilelawyer 11-20-2008 07:57 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
This is the deal:

iPhone doesnt have a keyboard.. I don't type that much so it wouldn't bother me.
The MAJOR issue is AT&T, way overpriced, only decent reception.
If/when iPhone comes to Sprint, I just might get one.

jethro_static 11-20-2008 07:59 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by winmobilelawyer (Post 532628)
This is the deal:

iPhone doesnt have a keyboard.. I don't type that much so it wouldn't bother me.
The MAJOR issue is AT&T, way overpriced, only decent reception.
If/when iPhone comes to Sprint, I just might get one.

gotta agree on this.

ruskiyab 11-20-2008 08:11 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
For me, the iPhone is a phone much like the instinct is a phone along with all the flip phones and everything else. get my point? It's a phone granted it does some cooler things that the rest of them but wait, yep.. still ust a phone that does some cool useless things.

The touch pro on the other hand is a device. You can do with it whatever you wish. It doesn't have a big flashy screen or a capacitive touch screen or fancy graphics but from a power users standpoint, it's function over form.

That however, is just my $0.02

adrian2pm 11-20-2008 08:23 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
i use my iphone for games...way better than tp. and iphone has a lot of games..plus i use as my ipod to look cool..lol

Noir 11-20-2008 08:31 PM

Re: Anyone have an iPhone or come from one?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 532599)
Personally, I will take the emulator that sucked than nothing.

see
with my winmo I have anything from sega to ps1 and the emulation on the ps1 isn't that bad
much better than the iphone sadly
and I wouldn't have thought it, but somehow the snes/nes and sega emulation is awful


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