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1999TL 09-24-2008 11:32 PM

What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
I'm really liking all my buttons. I also use AE button plus. How will I get used to no buttons? Also, I'll miss the scroll wheel, functionality of nue hardware switch to be used as vibrate on and off.

On the other hand, the Raphael looks much better.

gobmonster 09-24-2008 11:42 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
"What wont you miss?" wouldve been more appropriate...

My daily reset to keep it running smooth... not multitasking due to memory errors... camera that has no right to be called 2mp...

TheRealHotshot 09-24-2008 11:50 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
That's simple. The scroll wheel that's about it.

shark1987 09-24-2008 11:54 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
well I haven't used a mogul for about 7 months but I won't miss the bluetooth cutting out. I don't think there is anything I really miss that won't be on the Touch Pro.

Cicatrize 09-25-2008 12:11 AM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
I haven't had my Mogul for almost a year now, but if I still did, I'd say the scroll wheel. Nothing else matters in comparison.

fishpony 09-25-2008 12:15 AM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
i will miss all my side buttons. I think i'll trade them for 4.5x the ram though

Cicatrize 09-25-2008 12:18 AM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fishpony (Post 432480)
i will miss all my side buttons. I think i'll trade them for 4.5x the ram though

Yeah, and 4x the resolution, and another keyboard row, and a flush screen...and good GPS...etc.

The list goes on :)

TurboFool 09-25-2008 12:39 AM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Scroll wheel and buttons. I use the scroll wheel constantly, and the buttons are pretty valuable. Having instant access to the messaging and web browser is pretty useful, having a button mapped for the flashlight and one for the camera, and having the easily-accessible OK button where my thumb is anyway. Also kind of miss the external microSD slot. Still, as has been said, I think it's worth it for having over four times the RAM alone, not to mention the other stuff.

Oh, and my extended battery. I'm not going to enjoy having to wait three or four months again for Seidio to make a decent battery for it that I'll have to buy a new holster for.

themuffinman 09-25-2008 08:22 AM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
For me its quite simple, I am not going to miss a damn thing, except for doing a soft reset atleast once a day, thats just awesome(sarcasm).

jason25 09-25-2008 08:25 AM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
I will just miss the buttons, especially the WiFi switch. Now that I am using the diamond I realize how much i liked that switch.

Vertigo 09-25-2008 08:56 AM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Mogul? what is that?

drexappeal 09-25-2008 01:35 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Scroll wheel and that's about it. Rarely use Internet hard button or message hard button.

Touch pro has buttons for talk and end, as well as volume toggle. I'm sure I'll get used to using the d-pad, which may end up being better than the scroll wheel. We'll see.

TurboFool 09-25-2008 02:03 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Well, the D-pad is also a touch wheel of sorts which I believe can be used for scrolling, so that may end up working out all right.

I forgot about the WiFi switch, though. I do like having that for turning my ringer on and off. It's proven very handy lately. Hopefully the Touch Pro's responsive enough that the TF3D interface makes that almost as fast, though.

mokash34 09-25-2008 02:03 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
i'll miss the white spots on my screen... NOT!

maybe the wifi switch? and the fact that it's called the MOgul and my name is MO

WOOT:drunken:

furiousgtz 09-25-2008 05:02 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
I don't know I will find out once I get my Pro. Same thing happen when I went from 6700 to 6800 it was very awkward the buttons and the way it feels.

I will miss the power button I use my left hand and the index finger.

drexappeal 09-25-2008 05:22 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by furiousgtz (Post 433415)
I will miss the power button I use my left hand and the index finger.

Should be even easier for you now. Power button is on the top left of the phone.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.en...on-ctia-11.jpg

SirNathaniel 09-25-2008 05:24 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
I'll definitely miss the scroll wheel, but def not the lousy 64mb ram, lol!

holo 09-25-2008 07:07 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboFool (Post 433151)
Well, the D-pad is also a touch wheel of sorts which I believe can be used for scrolling, so that may end up working out all right.

I forgot about the WiFi switch, though. I do like having that for turning my ringer on and off. It's proven very handy lately. Hopefully the Touch Pro's responsive enough that the TF3D interface makes that almost as fast, though.

Out of the box the scroll wheel zooms when you rotate your finger around it. I do imagine someone will make some software to make it scroll tho.

92GTA 09-25-2008 07:26 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
The screen size

TurboFool 09-25-2008 07:42 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drexappeal (Post 433448)
Should be even easier for you now. Power button is on the top left of the phone.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.en...on-ctia-11.jpg

How is that easier to reach? If I'm holding it in my left hand, then the power button is right under my forefinger. This is in a position where none of my fingers reside naturally.

drexappeal 09-25-2008 07:46 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboFool (Post 433623)
How is that easier to reach? If I'm holding it in my left hand, then the power button is right under my forefinger. This is in a position where none of my fingers reside naturally.

??...The side of the phone that's closest to us is the back, so if you're holding the phone with the face to you, the power button is immediately under your index when you slide your index finger to the top of the phone (it's on the left side of the phone).

TurboFool 09-25-2008 08:19 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drexappeal (Post 433629)
??...The side of the phone that's closest to us is the back, so if you're holding the phone with the face to you, the power button is immediately under your index when you slide your index finger to the top of the phone (it's on the left side of the phone).

Still failing to see how that's remotely easier. If I'm holding it in my left hand, on the Mogul, this places the current power button directly under my index finger. Perfect spot to turn it on and off instantly. I would have to slide my forefinger into a very unnaturally uncomfortable position to hit the power button in the new location. Now if I were to slide my THUMB up from the side, that's relatively easy to move into position and isn't a major inconvenience, but it's still no better than hitting a button already sitting under my index finger. I'm not complaining about the new position, as I'm sure I'll adjust to it very quickly. I'm just arguing that it's definitely not EASIER than the Mogul's power button.

fishpony 09-25-2008 08:54 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
i agree, i'm not going to like the power button i know. i will get used to it though.

drexappeal 09-25-2008 10:07 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboFool (Post 433670)
Still failing to see how that's remotely easier. If I'm holding it in my left hand, on the Mogul, this places the current power button directly under my index finger. Perfect spot to turn it on and off instantly. I would have to slide my forefinger into a very unnaturally uncomfortable position to hit the power button in the new location. Now if I were to slide my THUMB up from the side, that's relatively easy to move into position and isn't a major inconvenience, but it's still no better than hitting a button already sitting under my index finger. I'm not complaining about the new position, as I'm sure I'll adjust to it very quickly. I'm just arguing that it's definitely not EASIER than the Mogul's power button.

Okay...don't wrap your index to the other side of the phone. Hold it with your middle finger, ring and pinky...thumb on the other side of the phone, index naturally points directly up towards the top of the phone. Keep in mind, the Touch Pro is shorter, so it'll be easier on that phone then it currently is on the Mogul. Since you guys are so adament about it, I'll try to take a pictures...LOL.

Cicatrize 09-25-2008 10:11 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 92GTA (Post 433604)
The screen size

This is a joke, right? lol

Cicatrize 09-25-2008 10:14 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Oh, and about the power button thing, you do get used to it (it's the same position as the Touch), but I do miss the location of it on the Mogul.

drexappeal 09-25-2008 10:21 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
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Okay, so I don't have an extra camera, but I took a pic with my Mogul of what I'm talking about. It definitely will take getting used to, but you see where my index finger is placed? I had to take a picture in the mirror at my office, so obviously what you're seeing is a reflection (so everything would be flipped, as far as placement is concerned). My other hand got in the way because I had to push the button for the camera.

gobmonster 09-25-2008 10:36 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
@drexappeal

i wont be missing the moguls camera at all lol

1999TL 09-25-2008 10:41 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
auto focus is a must if you want to take a pic of a book page for quick reference.

Cicatrize 09-25-2008 10:52 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1999TL (Post 433878)
auto focus is a must if you want to take a pic of a book page for quick reference.

I lol'ed.

1999TL 09-25-2008 10:57 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
I dont cheat with it, I just use it to study. :)

Cicatrize 09-25-2008 11:03 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1999TL (Post 433916)
I dont cheat with it, I just use it to study. :)

Riiiiight. ;)

GirlGoneGeek 09-25-2008 11:07 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Ill miss the scroll bar on the side, of course the keyboard that I type so fast on :) and the sliding sound when I open my mogul. hehe

esqueue 09-25-2008 11:27 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicatrize (Post 432487)
good GPS...etc.

The list goes on :)

good gps? I don't see what's wrong with mogul's gps. That is about the only good thing on the phone. How do you know that the touch pro's gps is any better?

Cicatrize 09-25-2008 11:43 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by esqueue (Post 433955)
good gps? I don't see what's wrong with mogul's gps. That is about the only good thing on the phone. How do you know that the touch pro's gps is any better?

All of the reviews I've seen boast nearly instantaneous locks with the Touch Pro.

TurboFool 09-26-2008 01:25 AM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drexappeal (Post 433857)
Okay, so I don't have an extra camera, but I took a pic with my Mogul of what I'm talking about. It definitely will take getting used to, but you see where my index finger is placed? I had to take a picture in the mirror at my office, so obviously what you're seeing is a reflection (so everything would be flipped, as far as placement is concerned). My other hand got in the way because I had to push the button for the camera.

Who holds their phone like that? I hold mine with the screen facing out, so I can see it, with my fingers on one side of the phone and my thumb on the other, just like you normally would if you were grasping anything comfortably. I guess this is why there's confusion between us. I really don't know what you would hold your phone like that...

1999TL 09-26-2008 01:39 AM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboFool (Post 434069)
Who holds their phone like that? I hold mine with the screen facing out, so I can see it, with my fingers on one side of the phone and my thumb on the other, just like you normally would if you were grasping anything comfortably. I guess this is why there's confusion between us. I really don't know what you would hold your phone like that...

I agree.

drexappeal 09-26-2008 01:43 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gobmonster (Post 433874)
@drexappeal

i wont be missing the moguls camera at all lol

So true. When I first got it, I was impressed because it was only a phone camera...now, just looking at pics that have been taken by the Diamond without flash...Bye, bye Mogul camera!...LOL.

drexappeal 09-26-2008 01:51 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboFool (Post 434069)
Who holds their phone like that? I hold mine with the screen facing out, so I can see it, with my fingers on one side of the phone and my thumb on the other, just like you normally would if you were grasping anything comfortably. I guess this is why there's confusion between us. I really don't know what you would hold your phone like that...

Nobody, but who wants to hold their phone (especially if they hold it with their left hand) and accidentaly press the power button? I've done it so many times. That's why, IMO, for purposes when you need to put the phone in standby mode or actually turn the phone off, the power button is in an ideal position. No more accidental presses.

Keep in mind, like I said in my last post, the ONLY reason the phone is backwards (screen facing IN) is because I didn't have an extra camera. How did you expect me to take the pic with the camera turned the other way?...Unless of course you can think of a way to have taken the pic displaying the hand position I had mentioned AND not have the camera take a pic of my palm instead...LOL.

Just my .02, but IMO I really like where the standby/power button is located now compared to the current location on the Mogul.

1999TL 09-26-2008 01:53 PM

Re: What will you miss from your Mogul?
 
I accidentally press the power button quite often as well. I agree, the power button on top might be better.

damn, the diamond doesn't have a flash. That sucks. Flash light program is damn handy, and I've yet to see any signs of burning out the flash. I use it all the time.


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