what phone do you currently own?

[austin420]

Originally Posted by eric12341

they aren't slanting anything but are just going on facts. I'm not a Tmo fanboy I'm a great service/great value fanboy. I also didn't ask u anything,that was between me, @orangekod and @gTen

Originally Posted by eric12341

@orangekid make sure u do an HSPA+ speed test too. I'm totally sure AT$Ts HSPA+ is slower than T-mobile's because theirs is only category 14 while T-mo is category 42. My next phone is going to be a WP8 that will work on T-mobile's upcoming LTe network but I'll be fine with HSPA+ as their implementation of it is more spectrum efficient than AT$T and VZs implementation of it according to what I read on tmonews. Wonder what @gTen will say about that.

first of all, vzw has no hspa+ so your statement makes no sense. also, by nature, lte is more spectrum efficent than hspa+. it can litterally serve up more bandwidth on less spectrum. that is what verizon is rolling out, so your statement is also not true.
concerning att, im sure their hspa+ network services more people that tmobiles small foot print. therefore also more efficent in another way than tmo.
i dont know what facts you are talking about. please cite source.
i really dont care if you were talking to me or not. the beauty of a public forum is that we all free to be here. even the wp7 trolls and tmo fanbois.

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by austin420

first of all, vzw has no hspa+ so your statement makes no sense. also, by nature, lte is more spectrum efficent than hspa+. it can litterally serve up more bandwidth on less spectrum. that is what verizon is rolling out, so your statement is also not true.
concerning att, im sure their hspa+ network services more people that tmobiles small foot print. therefore also more efficent in another way than tmo.
i dont know what facts you are talking about. please cite source.
i really dont care if you were talking to me or not. the beauty of a public forum is that we all free to be here. even the wp7 trolls and tmo fanbois.

I know VZ has no HSPA+ I was talking about their LTe. HSPA+ is apparently more spectrum efficient than LTe release 8 which is what AT$T and VZ are both rolling out. Actually read my post this time. T-mo plans to roll out release 10 of LTe. and u wanted a source, here it is

Ray continued to point out how T-Mobile will differentiate its LTE network from the competition by deploying LTE Release 10, which can be upgraded to LTE Advanced via a software upgrade. Ray explained that other operators, notably AT&T and Verizon have not deployed LTE Release 10 gear but instead opted to deploy LTE Release 8.

Editors Note: Just to clarify for everyone who may ask, T-Mobile’s original LTE rollout will be theoretically capable of 72Mbps. The ability to software update the network to LTE 10 allows for T-Mobile to easily upgrade their network to much faster speeds with more backhaul. LTE 10 has a theoretical max of 150Mbps. For what it’s worth, our main spectrum guru Conan Kudo tells me that HSPA+ is really more network efficient than LTE up until release 10.

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[austin420]

Originally Posted by eric12341

I know VZ has no HSPA+ I was talking about their LTe. HSPA+ is apparently more spectrum efficient than LTe release 8 which is what AT$T and VZ are both rolling out. Actually read my post this time. T-mo plans to roll out release 10 of LTe. and u wanted a source, here it is

but just to clarify, tmobile not only hasnt rolled anythjing out yet, nor have they even announced a vendor for their infrastructure overhaul. everything is just speculation at this piont.
also, it easier to come out with a slightly newer variation of the same tech when your 2 years late to the party. (cough cough, im looking at you tmobile)

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by austin420

but just to clarify, tmobile not only hasnt rolled anythjing out yet, nor have they even announced a vendor for their infrastructure overhaul. everything is just speculation at this piont.
also, it easier to come out with a slightly newer variation of the same tech when your 2 years late to the party. (cough cough, im looking at you tmobile)

@austin420 oh yes they have, they already have HSPA+ on PCS in some areas of NV, and CA. This was on Tmonews around November-ish. Plus sprint's LTe vendor lightspeed still hasn't worked out their interference issue with the FCC. Sprint can't deploy LTe on a wide scale till lightsquared resolves this or if they find a new vendor. Tmo was also last to deploy 3G and they had the best deployment of it.

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by eric12341

@austin420 oh yes they have, they already have HSPA+ on PCS in some areas of NV, and CA. This was on Tmonews around November-ish. Plus sprint's LTe vendor lightspeed still hasn't worked out their interference issue with the FCC. Sprint can't deploy LTe on a wide scale till lightsquared resolves this or if they find a new vendor. Tmo was also last to deploy 3G and they had the best deployment of it.

I think he was saying tmobile hasn't done anything with regards LTE, we already know they've rolled out HSPA+.

[prbiztechmobi]

Originally Posted by orangekid

I think he was saying tmobile hasn't done anything with regards LTE, we already know they've rolled out HSPA+.

Hmm, he was saying Tmobile has not done anything with regards LTE and he is right I have faced this problem.

[austin420]

Originally Posted by eric12341

@austin420 oh yes they have, they already have HSPA+ on PCS in some areas of NV, and CA. This was on Tmonews around November-ish. Plus sprint's LTe vendor lightspeed still hasn't worked out their interference issue with the FCC. Sprint can't deploy LTe on a wide scale till lightsquared resolves this or if they find a new vendor. Tmo was also last to deploy 3G and they had the best deployment of it.

lightsquared was just a fall back plan. the only thing sprint wanted from lightsquared was spectrum. sprint has been laying out the groundwork for lte on its own 1900mhz spectrum for almost a year. they are working with lucent and doing alot of the roll out themselves. havent you already seen the sprint lte speed tests?
if you read more than just tmobile blogs, you might be a little more aware of things.

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by austin420

lightsquared was just a fall back plan. the only thing sprint wanted from lightsquared was spectrum. sprint has been laying out the groundwork for lte on its own 1900mhz spectrum for almost a year. they are working with lucent and doing alot of the roll out themselves. havent you already seen the sprint lte speed tests?
if you read more than just tmobile blogs, you might be a little more aware of things.

@austin420 and if you read more than sprint boy blogs you might be a little more aware of things. The condition of the sprint network here in my town still has not improved like they said and claim that it has, in fact the slow speeds have spread even more into Chicagoland. Last week I went into a sprint store near my school and speed tested the iPhone, 2 android phones and the arrive and NONE of them could get above 340kbps on a FULL signal. I get that speed on EDGE easily.

Edit: Also the coverage T-mobile has along my commute route is MUCH BETTER than that of sprint, when I had my TP2 and arrive I would lose my 3G signal 5 times along my commute route, with Tmo I only lose it once. This is annoying as fuck when trying to stream something.

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by eric12341

@austin420 and if you read more than sprint boy blogs you might be a little more aware of things. The condition of the sprint network here in my town still has not improved like they said and claim that it has, in fact the slow speeds have spread even more into Chicagoland. Last week I went into a sprint store near my school and speed tested the iPhone, 2 android phones and the arrive and NONE of them could get above 340kbps on a FULL signal. I get that speed on EDGE easily.

Edit: Also the coverage T-mobile has along my commute route is MUCH BETTER than that of sprint, when I had my TP2 and arrive I would lose my 3G signal 5 times along my commute route, with Tmo I only lose it once. This is annoying as fuck when trying to stream something.

That's in your area, I know lots of areas where Sprint gets faster speed than tmobile. Every area is different. I'll admit that tmobile gives me better coverage in Houston than Sprint did, but I'm not sure about the rest of the country.