Evo 4g/Evo 3D

eagle2222222222 · #1 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 04:52 PM

Putting aside the 3D aspect of the new 3D phone, it appears that the hardware and software are much better than we have now. I am about to be eligible for an upgrade this summer. Is there any reason at all not to upgrade to this phone?

teejay89 · #2 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 04:58 PM

None at all. My only caveat to that would be that I wouldn't pre-order it, unless you don't want it rooted or are okay waiting a couple weeks before having it rooted. Me personally, I won't be purchasing it until it's been out awhile. Hell, I may even wait to see how I like Sense 3.0 first as well, cause otherwise I might wait even longer for a working non-Sense rom or just upgrade to whatever the next "official" Google phone is.

**BlackDynamite** · #3 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 05:54 PM

I think it will be rooted quick, that isn't even a concern. It seems like most HTC phones are rooted before they even get released.

My concern is for a senseless ROM. I like the vanilla Android. And even now, we can't get 720p recording on senseless ROMs. How will it be when there are dual cameras recording in 3D?

Sauske · #4 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by teejay89

None at all. My only caveat to that would be that I wouldn't pre-order it, unless you don't want it rooted or are okay waiting a couple weeks before having it rooted. Me personally, I won't be purchasing it until it's been out awhile. Hell, I may even wait to see how I like Sense 3.0 first as well, cause otherwise I might wait even longer for a working non-Sense rom or just upgrade to whatever the next "official" Google phone is.

On the contrary, the earlier the better my brother got the Evo when it first came out and I rooted his phone easily! Then I got mines later on with an different h-boot and then I had to wait

for a work around. The longer you wait the more if gives Sprint time to upgrade security, and most people hate doing it the manual way (I prefer this method) and use Unrevoked!

**gTen** · #5 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by eagle2222222222

Putting aside the 3D aspect of the new 3D phone, it appears that the hardware and software are much better than we have now. I am about to be eligible for an upgrade this summer. Is there any reason at all not to upgrade to this phone?

Yes its a HUGE upgrade..that aid Galaxy S 2 is still better..and by end of ear nvidia and qualcomm promises quadcores...that said we have no clue if thye will come to sprint or not :/

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I think it will be rooted quick, that isn't even a concern. It seems like most HTC phones are rooted before they even get released.

Its a big concern actually..from what the people who rooted the Thuderbolt said..the new HTC devices are locked like Motorola devices and not to be fooled by how quickly they unlocked it...and rumor is its going to get worse...on the other hand motorola is promising unlocked boot loaders lol

Even cyanogen is reconsidering HTC:

Twitter

ATM, HTC and Motorola are the hardest manufacturers to root...

**BlackDynamite** · #6 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 08:52 PM

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Its a big concern actually..from what the people who rooted the Thuderbolt said..the new HTC devices are locked like Motorola devices and not to be fooled by how quickly they unlocked it...and rumor is its going to get worse...on the other hand motorola is promising unlocked boot loaders lol

Even cyanogen is reconsidering HTC:

Twitter

ATM, HTC and Motorola are the hardest manufacturers to root...

I'm not concerned. I think Verizon likes their phones locked down and that's why the Thunderbolt was like that. And even then, it was rooted before it was released. Sprint is more relaxed and HTC doesn't seem to mind.

Has there ever been an HTC device that didn't get rooted? I would not worry about it until there is actually a reason to worry.

**gTen** · #7 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 10:54 PM

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I'm not concerned. I think Verizon likes their phones locked down and that's why the Thunderbolt was like that. And even then, it was rooted before it was released. Sprint is more relaxed and HTC doesn't seem to mind.

The team that unlocked it said it was not a Verizon only thing...and the reason why the unlock was fast was due to info gathered from the G2.

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Has there ever been an HTC device that didn't get rooted? I would not worry about it until there is actually a reason to worry.

Well has there ever been any phone that wasn't rootable? The problem usually lies in custom roms via locked bootloader.

**BlackDynamite** · #8 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen

Well has there ever been any phone that wasn't rootable? The problem usually lies in custom roms via locked bootloader.

I think there are a few Motorolas that never got rooted. I know for sure there are some Motorolas that can't have custom ROMs at least. Pretty sure there has never been an HTC smartphone, either WinMo or Android, that didn't get hardspl or rooted.

**gTen** · #9 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 11:23 PM

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I think there are a few Motorolas that never got rooted. I know for sure there are some Motorolas that can't have custom ROMs at least. Pretty sure there has never been an HTC smartphone, either WinMo or Android, that didn't get hardspl or rooted.

I dont think Apache had hard spl :P..but I think it was just flash and go...

But every single HTC device was harder and harder to unlock from then on...generation by generation. Now with the G2 they have taken things up a notch...and with the Tbolt and the Incredible S they are right now on par with the Motorola phones..aka Signed boot loaders..from what I read only reason they were able to unlock tbolt was because they had a pre-release bootloader that they overwrite the original...so come june anything is possible :/

**shane6374** · #10 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen

I dont think Apache had hard spl :P..but I think it was just flash and go...

But every single HTC device was harder and harder to unlock from then on...generation by generation. Now with the G2 they have taken things up a notch...and with the Tbolt and the Incredible S they are right now on par with the Motorola phones..aka Signed boot loaders..from what I read only reason they were able to unlock tbolt was because they had a pre-release bootloader that they overwrite the original...so come june anything is possible :/

The G2 was an F'n pain in the a$$ to root. Then once you have it rooted you can almost forget returning it to stock. Everytime my gf asks me to look at her phone I tell her how much I hate it.

What CM said on twitter is so true. At least Sammy hasn't decided to stop us yet.

Another example would be the month + it took to get the hard spl on the tp2. Let's face it, HTC just does not want us to root, flash or do anything on their phones anymore.

The worse part about it is that it was the modding community that made htc phones so popular.