Sprint CFO: HTC EVO can take on iPhone 4 **Good Read** - Page 3

**gTen** · #21 (**permalink**) 06-10-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ace741

On Monday's Attack of the Show, of course they spent 15 minutes talking Iphone 4 and 6 seconds to talk about the strong sales of the EVO. But anyways, a guy on that show who was at the announcement show did say that the camcorder on the Iphone4 has the quality to replace a Flip recorder. I'll admit that is impressive, I don't think our EVO has that quality. But anyways, it will come down to personal preference. In the end I don't see myself owning an Iphone for a very long time. Just can't stand apples company attitude.

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I wasn't talking about the back camera..I meant the front camera on iphone being a crappy vga while EVO has a 1.3mp...the back camera for th EVO I hear is same tech as in the iphone..(at least thats what I read somewhere)

**jbearamus** · #22 (**permalink**) 06-10-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen

No actually the iPhone hardware is superior to the EVO

....the iphone has an extra sensor and a hummingbird processor (which is more powerful and 45m so it is smaller and more efficient) thus more battery life.

Whats holding Apple back is as always the software...the only spec EVO beats the iPhone is on the camera....

Its kinda sad but when is HTC gonna release a WOW phone and not stick to minimum upgrading >.>

sorry, i forgot about the gyroscope

and as far as A4 vs. Snapdragon in terms of power they're about the same, however yes the A4 is more power efficient but at the same time apple really slimmed down the battery so the evo and iphone may in fact have the same battery life before recharging

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Originally Posted by gTen

I wasn't talking about the back camera..I meant the front camera on iphone being a crappy vga while EVO has a 1.3mp...the back camera for th EVO I hear is same tech as in the iphone..(at least thats what I read somewhere)

regardless of "same tech" and both having 720p the evo still has an 8MP vs the i4's 5MP

**gTen** · #23 (**permalink**) 06-10-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jbearamus

sorry, i forgot about the gyroscope

and as far as A4 vs. Snapdragon in terms of power they're about the same, however yes the A4 is more power efficient but at the same time apple really slimmed down the battery so the evo and iphone may in fact have the same battery life before recharging

well snapdragon i think is 65nm and 45nm on the iphone cpu..but A4 is similar to the hummingbird which has a 3x more powerful built in gpu...

**jbearamus** · #24 (**permalink**) 06-10-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen

well snapdragon i think is 65nm and 45nm on the iphone cpu..but A4 is similar to the hummingbird which has a 3x more powerful built in gpu...

well here's my research so far, i haven't read anything about an integrated gpu however the A4 does have 2 ddr ram chips on the chip so as to "support greater needs for graphics" the word support to me reads that it doesnt have an integrated gpu

both Snapdragon and the A4 are power by the same ARM Cortex A8 core but the A4 has had some "enhancements" (undisclosed, worked with samsung actually) which in theory make it perform better and both are manufactured at 45nm so their power consumption is likely similar

A4:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A4
Snapdragon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)

**gTen** · #25 (**permalink**) 06-10-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jbearamus

well here's my research so far, i haven't read anything about an integrated gpu however the A4 does have 2 ddr ram chips on the chip so as to "support greater needs for graphics" the word support to me reads that it doesnt have an integrated gpu

both Snapdragon and the A4 are power by the same ARM Cortex A8 core but the A4 has had some "enhancements" (undisclosed, worked with samsung actually) which in theory make it perform better and both are manufactured at 45nm so their power consumption is likely similar

A4:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A4
Snapdragon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)

You are miss reading some info, let me explain

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45 nanometer LP process variants, QSD8x50A clocked at up to 1.3GHz with 30% less power consumption, were sampled by the end of 2009

This is the 1.3ghz snapdragons..not the ones we currently have..the ones we have are 1ghz and 65nm

As for the A4 google up similarities of Hummingbird and the A4, then look up the details on the hummignbird's built in gpu processor

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Apple A4 is based on the ARM processor architecture.[5] The first version released runs at 1 GHz and contains a Cortex-A8 CPU core paired with a PowerVR SGX 535 graphics processor (GPU)[2][6][7][8] built on Samsung's 45 nm process.[9]

PhyscoAssassinx · #26 (**permalink**) 06-10-2010, 03:42 PM

Well Every seems to forget one BIG Factor, you can Only video chat via Wifi and ONLY WITH OTHER IPHONE HD OWNERS.

and yes you can use qik with 3g all i have is 3g in ny/nj and i use qik once in a while but id perfer fring

**gTen** · #27 (**permalink**) 06-10-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PhyscoAssassinx

Well Every seems to forget one BIG Factor, you can Only video chat via Wifi and ONLY WITH OTHER IPHONE HD OWNERS.

and yes you can use qik with 3g all i have is 3g in ny/nj and i use qik once in a while but id perfer fring

Well this is a software issue..Skype in future may develop an APP to use it and etc..a long with others...even Qik may support it one day.

**mlin** · #28 (**permalink**) 06-10-2010, 03:50 PM

I think these phones are so similar in specs that we will not see huge differences in performance between either device. Honestly, for me I like the hardware of the iPhone, but I like the Android software and thus the EVO is the winner for my daily use. Is the A4 processor a little better than the Snapdragon? Probably. But, does it matter that much? To me, no.

**gTen** · #29 (**permalink**) 06-10-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mlin

I think these phones are so similar in specs that we will not see huge differences in performance between either device. Honestly, for me I like the hardware of the iPhone, but I like the Android software and thus the EVO is the winner for my daily use. Is the A4 processor a little better than the Snapdragon? Probably. But, does it matter that much? To me, no.

All depends on what your doing...for most users only noticeable difference will be battery life...but as far as power goes...the hummingbird is more on par with the 1.3ghz snapdragon rather then the current one we got.

If your gonna do video and gaming you will notice a significant difference in quality..I mean it even has DirectX 10.1 support....and should be able to support 1080p from what ppl are saying...

The difference is pretty big...but I doubt the iPhone will be able to make full use of it.

**jbearamus** · #30 (**permalink**) 06-10-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen

Well this is a software issue..Skype in future may develop an APP to use it and etc..a long with others...even Qik may support it one day.

assuming it gets approved, it duplicates functionality with Facetime and yes i'm aware of the approved opera browser which is just one more example of how the app store's policies are messed up and arbitrary